Decided against the Palumbo diet.

[rickyboy36]

Actually I dont count calories on a keto diet...depending on the individuals amount of lean muscle I will adjust protein and fat slightly but I still dont measure the calories.
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I understand..but somewhere you know what is what and how much a certain food contains.I agree you may not weight things to a tee..but you have a pretty darn good idea what the calories are and how to adjust them to that particular individual..right?

[ubcpower]

I understand..but somewhere you know what is what and how much a certain food contains.I agree you may not weight things to a tee..but you have a pretty darn good idea what the calories are and how to adjust them to that particular individual..right?

if i can speak on this. Although palumbo doesnt necessarily count calories i know for myself when i was working with him in a bulking stage he would make weekly or monthly adjustments by adding in 1tbsp of ev olive oil or add in 20-25 grams of carbs or protein proportionately throughout my diet. This would basically be increasing my diet by 100kcal each adjustment. So although he doesnt swear by #'s , there is some method to his madness.

[rickyboy36]

if i can speak on this. Although palumbo doesnt necessarily count calories i know for myself when i was working with him in a bulking stage he would make weekly or monthly adjustments by adding in 1tbsp of ev olive oil or add in 20-25 grams of carbs or protein proportionately throughout my diet. This would basically be increasing my diet by 100kcal each adjustment. So although he doesnt swear by #'s , there is some method to his madness.

Exactly.He has a "starting" point based on peoples weight.The food that is in his diet has been counted.Granted,that tablespoon of PB or olive oil may be "off" a bit..but in the end we are talking about a +100..-100 cals at the end of the day.No biggie.. cause no two indivuals are alike anyways and therefore proceeds by using the scale or by seeing how you look and adjusts calories from there with a spoonfull of this or a spoonful of that knowing exactly the calories he's giving you..

[Praetorian]

I understand..but somewhere you know what is what and how much a certain food contains.I agree you may not weight things to a tee..but you have a pretty darn good idea what the calories are and how to adjust them to that particular individual..right?

Dont get me wrong everything is measured accurately...ie ounces of protein, tablespoons oil etc....its just not measured in calories...Dave basically does the same thing...he doesnt measure in calories...only amounts. We have a good undestanding of how much is required for a person with a specific amount of lean muscle. If you were to go by the old standard of measured calories on a diet for a BB say 290lbs or so offseason it would be way off on the DP keto diet. The first question almost every client Dave has is "is that enough calories for a guy my size?" trust me on this...his answer is dont worrry about the calories.
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[natenator]

I find the keto diet easier to follow than counting calories.

this makes no sense.

[natenator]

Actually I dont count calories on a keto diet...depending on the individuals amount of lean muscle I will adjust protein and fat slightly but I still dont measure the calories.
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but you know what that baseline is. Many do not nor do they know what and when to make adjustments.

So one initially still needs to count calories to establish the baseline.

[gregdoucette]

smart man to avoid the palumbo diet, why give up carbs when u don't have too.

[rickyboy36]

smart man to avoid the palumbo diet, why give up carbs when u don't have too.

Tell me Greg..whats fun with keeping them??Do you really think you feel better?Do you really think you are stronger?Do you really think you are less hungry?Forget the first week,we all agree its a bit hard..but after its pretty much a cup of tea.

But before you answer all of the above,have you tried the keto diet before??

[tex]

Tell me Greg..whats fun with keeping them??Do you really think you feel better?Do you really think you are stronger?Do you really think you are less hungry?Forget the first week,we all agree its a bit hard..but after its pretty much a cup of tea.

But before you answer all of the above,have you tried the keto diet before??

are you really calling out GD? have you seen his comp pics or any of his pl #'s? you're barkin up the wrong tree chief......take a look at his pics and then look in the mirror and get back to us.....ill tell you this...ive done the dp keto and im significantly stronger while taking in 500-800 grams of carbs daily....

[rickyboy36]

are you really calling out GD? have you seen his comp pics or any of his pl #'s? you're barkin up the wrong tree chief......take a look at his pics and then look in the mirror and get back to us.....ill tell you this...ive done the dp keto and im significantly stronger while taking in 500-800 grams of carbs daily....

Bro..im not calling him out...wtf are you talking about.Ive never disputed his "looks"..im disputing the fact that he is saying that keto is no good calling chalin "smart" by choosing a carb diet.Kinda makes others who follow the keto diet feel "stupid.Why dont you tell Prae this??Why dont you tell OTHER PROS who have used this diet to get into contest shape.Oh i guess its because im not at a pro level..i see..

And by the way,it doesnt mean your a pro that you know everything.Im not saying Greg doesnt know anything,im just saying.Sometimes its just genetics and hard work that bring you up there..not knowledge.Listening to you though we have to Bow down to all national bodybuilders and not dispute their advice