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    Quote Originally Posted by InPursuitOfPerfection View Post
    yea, thats what i figured. Thanks for the quick responses BTW. I think i may give it a

    shot anyways for a month or so and see how i fair. If strength is staying, ill keep

    going, if the weights start to drop ill back off, and start to reintroduce some carbs.

    Now, i was planning on staying natural for a while, but i think it may be benificial for

    me to run a mild cycle while doing this diet. I personally dont advocate an oral only

    cycle very often lol, but i think it may be suited well to my goals at the moment. I

    have a bunch o var left over from a previous cycle, perhaps it would be alright to run 60

    mg ED for the duration im on this diet, to help stave off any muscle wasting. What are your thoughts?
    If your on the Keto diet,then and lack energy,just up your Fat it worked for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InPursuitOfPerfection View Post
    yea, thats what i figured. Thanks for the quick responses BTW. I think i may give it a

    shot anyways for a month or so and see how i fair. If strength is staying, ill keep

    going, if the weights start to drop ill back off, and start to reintroduce some carbs.

    Now, i was planning on staying natural for a while, but i think it may be benificial for

    me to run a mild cycle while doing this diet. I personally dont advocate an oral only

    cycle very often lol, but i think it may be suited well to my goals at the moment. I

    have a bunch o var left over from a previous cycle, perhaps it would be alright to run 60

    mg ED for the duration im on this diet, to help stave off any muscle wasting. What are your thoughts?
    Possibly, im not a fan of var alone personally........And if not running any super supplements, and no carbs, you will lose muscle for sure, going hi intensity as one needs to train in your sport....
    Fat wont do much for your energy levels as far as the explosive and cardio endurance you require, thats all carb related energy IMO.....But will give you energy to do day to day tasks and short stimulating workouts....
    let us know how it goes for you, as sometimes we stumble on to things that work, even when there are plenty of naysayers.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by InPursuitOfPerfection View Post
    i just have one more question.

    Im an amateur boxer and i train for it 3x a week for an hour, it is pretty high intensity training. I then weight train 3x a week on top of that. Once i start the diet i will also be slowly adding in some low intensity long duration cardio in the am before breakfast.

    Is the boxing going to cause me to lose a bunch of muscle on this diet? (i know dave says low intensity only)
    Is this diet a good choice for me personally?

    My goals right now are simply to drop bf and maintain lbm, not concerned with adding lbm at all at the moment.
    HIT boxing training can definitely cause some muscle loss if your heart rate is going above 130bpm. Once you go above this the body cannot use ketones for fuel as they are too slow...oxygen is now needed and this changes the equation in favour of glucose as a fuel...in the abscence glycogen amino acids will be converted ...ie muscle loss.
    If you are training HIT boxing etc then I would suggest some carb intake prior to that...thus you would not be in ketosis.
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    thanks for all the responses guys...im going to give a go and see what happens. Day 1 is

    on january 1st, maybe ill start a log and just update weekly. Since i have the var i

    think i am going to use it, and i am going to follow the diet at the beggining of the

    article, with the addition of NO shotgun prior to any workouts. Hopefully i can stave off

    any muscle wasting, but only time will tell. I am also going to incorporate the species

    supplements lipolyze and somalyze as soon as i get the cash together for them. Once

    again, thaks for all the help, now its time for me to put this into action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InPursuitOfPerfection View Post
    thanks for all the responses guys...im going to give a go and see what happens. Day 1 is

    on january 1st, maybe ill start a log and just update weekly. Since i have the var i

    think i am going to use it, and i am going to follow the diet at the beggining of the

    article, with the addition of NO shotgun prior to any workouts. Hopefully i can stave off

    any muscle wasting, but only time will tell. I am also going to incorporate the species

    supplements lipolyze and somalyze as soon as i get the cash together for them. Once

    again, thaks for all the help, now its time for me to put this into action.

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    Just an FYI...the var will not help spare muscle if you continue to do high intensity boxing type training while on a keto diet...the body still requires fuel and it will get it from amino acids...ie muscle tissue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
    Just an FYI...the var will not help spare muscle if you continue to do high intensity boxing type training while on a keto diet...the body still requires fuel and it will get it from amino acids...ie muscle tissue.
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    ic, well should i scrap the diet all together?

    or could i possibly add a small amout of carbs to my no shotgun, prior to boxing

    i do understand that it will alter the diet, but can i add 10 grams of carbs to my pre-boxing no shotgun? Would this completely negate the diet? Would it permanently keep me out of ketosis? Any info would be appreciated. I just wanna get the ball rolling


    Boxing is not something i want to give up, so i need to find a way to make it work lol... any help would be appreciated.

    For now im going to stick with the plan thats laid out in the OP... but id like to know what i could do to weak it a bit if needed
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    Just though id poist up the diet im planning to use, a few small changes, but all in all pretty much the same as OP.

    MEAL 1:
    4 whole omegga 3 eggs
    4 egg whites

    MEAL 2:
    1.5scoops protein
    1 tblsp natural Peanut butter

    MEAL 3:
    8oz chicken breast
    1/3 cup raw almonds

    MEAL 4:
    1.5 scoops protein
    1 tblsp natural peanut butter

    Meal 5:
    8oz Salmon/Beef
    Green salad
    1 tblsp Olive Oil
    1 tblp Balsamic vinegar

    Meal 6:
    1.5 scoops portein
    1 tblsp natural peanut butter

    Cals=2241
    Pro=251g
    Fat=95g
    Carbs=33g


    Starting tommorow

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    Quote Originally Posted by InPursuitOfPerfection View Post
    Just though id poist up the diet im planning to use, a few small changes, but all in all pretty much the same as OP.

    MEAL 1:
    4 whole omegga 3 eggs
    4 egg whites

    MEAL 2:
    1.5scoops protein
    1 tblsp natural Peanut butter

    MEAL 3:
    8oz chicken breast
    1/3 cup raw almonds

    MEAL 4:
    1.5 scoops protein
    1 tblsp natural peanut butter

    Meal 5:
    8oz Salmon/Beef
    Green salad
    1 tblsp Olive Oil
    1 tblp Balsamic vinegar

    Meal 6:
    1.5 scoops portein
    1 tblsp natural peanut butter

    Cals=2241
    Pro=251g
    Fat=95g
    Carbs=33g


    Starting tommorow
    A keto diet will make you loose muscle mass.

    Have carbs before and after your training sessions and bcaas during and that will help you to spare muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warlock View Post
    A keto diet will make you loose muscle mass.

    Have carbs before and after your training sessions and bcaas during and that will help you to spare muscle.
    Don't talk about what you don't know or have knowledge on.
    I lost 20 pounds...How? I drank bear piss and took up fencing. How the **** you think, son? I exercised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by natenator View Post
    Don't talk about what you don't know or have knowledge on.
    Bla bla bla bla


    Don't be boring and rude


 
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