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    So are you guys that are saying heavy squats will not make your core thicker? I find that hard to believe that you can work a muscle with heavy weight and not have size/thickness added to ones core. (especially if you are on the sauce)

    Instead of just saying it's a non issue, could someone explain why its a non issue?

    I mean, in my mind, maybe its a non issue if you are already a Tank, but if you are naturally slim?

    I am certainly not challenging anyone's opinion here, just looking for some kind of explanation.
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    I can't explain why. I just go by personal experience. I have a tiny waist, and it hasn't increased at all in 10 years. I guess when I work heavy squats, the majority of the muscle groups at work would be in the legs. The back might be tight and contracted, but no more than when I laugh at a really funny joke.

    Basically my thought process is that I am not moving the weight with my core. I am stabilizing it.

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    What precipitated this thread was we are starting contest prep for next summer so going to go through a heavy off season. Wife loves squatting and DL and does so with huge load for female...but..our real goal for this year is to X her out a bit more...widen her shoulders etc and keep waist smaller and we were looking for opinion as to the dl especially would have adverse effect on lower back / core area (thickening basically) and we would be self defeating as we work towards our goal. I thought we were OK and you all have provided some awesome and qualified feedback...now if I could only get my waist smaller...lol

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    Steve_d's already mentioned I dl and squat heavy weight during prep and have a tiny waist...
    My waist size may have increased sightly but the gains in my back, legs, and traps from heavy dl's and squats outway the tiny increase in musle in my core and for sure increase my x shape. Dead's also give women that great high butt you need in figure (IMO). I personally never train abs, I think my core gets the work it needs from heavy compound exercises.
    My advice to other women is do what you like...if you like to lift heavy do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAM View Post
    So are you guys that are saying heavy squats will not make your core thicker? I find that hard to believe that you can work a muscle with heavy weight and not have size/thickness added to ones core. (especially if you are on the sauce)

    Instead of just saying it's a non issue, could someone explain why its a non issue?

    I mean, in my mind, maybe its a non issue if you are already a Tank, but if you are naturally slim?

    I am certainly not challenging anyone's opinion here, just looking for some kind of explanation.
    IIRC,Lee Labrada was of the opinion squats would thicken the waist,part of the reason he avoided them for so long.But I think genetics and Guiness would play more of a role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cog View Post
    IIRC,Lee Labrada was of the opinion squats would thicken the waist,part of the reason he avoided them for so long.But I think genetics and Guiness would play more of a role.
    MMmmmm Guiness.
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    I noticed my waist thicken after doing heavy deadlifting, 600+lbs. So my opinion is just mine and from my experiences.

    Also remember, Razors woman can dead over 3 plates a side, we`re not talking sissy weight here.

    So its just my opinion that if a person is fighting trying to get more of an V-taper, it might be something to be mindful of if they already are a bit thicker in the waistline to begin with.

    Once again just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyO View Post
    I noticed my waist thicken after doing heavy deadlifting, 600+lbs. So my opinion is just mine and from my experiences.

    Also remember, Razors woman can dead over 3 plates a side, we`re not talking sissy weight here.

    So its just my opinion that if a person is fighting trying to get more of an V-taper, it might be something to be mindful of if they already are a bit thicker in the waistline to begin with.

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