You can get down to about 10% with just the template and a little willpower below that takes both brains and willpower.
If you aren't doing a contest or comparing yourself to guys @ 6% or less 12% looks pretty darn good.
If you are practicing posing in your underwear beside a kid that is 6% and you are 12% like I was yesterday then you feel like a fat pig.
(But happily he had toothpicks for legs)
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