Decided against the Palumbo diet.

[natenator]

ok...crazy = giving a "one size fits all" template/diet to everyone

also..with enough drugs pretty much almost anything will work.. (hopefully that doesn't offend anyone)

and palumbo knows his drugs

It's obvious you clearly no nothing about nutrition as it relates to athletic performance because there is no one template. It starts as a basic template then evolves from there with continuous tweaking and adjustment - not only the diet but the training requirements as well.

You read whereas some of us read + practice thus are more educated on the topic than a simple bookworm nerd.

Your statement of "enough drugs and anything will work" is proof enough you are a moron.

[steve_d]

wow you are ignorant and an idiot if you choose to base your knowledge of something on what what you "hear from people you know". Do some actual reading and come back with an informed opinion.

Greg chimes in to say: don't eliminate carbs if you don't have to. Be healthy, eat your spinach.
P says: The diet doesn't eliminate greens.
Greg says: I am talking about the diets of some of his friends/people he knows (regular people trying to lose weight) are using as an extreme example of what people think is good these days.
Nate: Assumes Greg thinks his friends taught him what the palumbo diet is.

These threads always get out of hand, and you guys are basically arguing the same points.

There is nothing wrong with the Palumbo diet. the only thing is for regular people who are not always going to stay disciplined, its just going to mess them up later when they binge on junk after the diet is over. Same goes for any diet though, so not much you can do other than try to not "diet".

Seems like the original poster actually does fit the "maintenance diet category", and if he wants to be successful long term, he should aim for a diet that is more "year round" and not some quick fix to make him look good for a week in mexico. Anyone who can maintain 12% without depriving themselves shouldn't have trouble getting to 8% without a hard diet, but rather a slightly lower caloried maintenance diet

[Praetorian]

summary:

Greg chimes in to say: don't eliminate carbs if you don't have to. Be healthy, eat your spinach.
P says: The diet doesn't eliminate greens.
Greg says: I am talking about the diets of some of his friends/people he knows (regular people trying to lose weight) are using as an extreme example of what people think is good these days.
Nate: Assumes Greg thinks his friends taught him what the palumbo diet is.

These threads always get out of hand, and you guys are basically arguing the same points.

There is nothing wrong with the Palumbo diet. the only thing is for regular people who are not always going to stay disciplined, its just going to mess them up later when they binge on junk after the diet is over.



Seems like the original poster actually does fit the "maintenance diet category", and if he wants to be successful long term, he should aim for a diet that is more "year round" and not some quick fix to make him look good for a week in mexico.

The discussion was the keto diet is unhealthy, extreme, eliminates complete food groups, vitamins, fibre, is only useful for competing BB etc etc...NONE of these statements is even close to being true and the fact that they have been made illustrates that the topic being discussed is misinderstood to a vast degree.
The keto diet like ANY other diet is a valuable alternative to ANYONE who wants to shed a few pounds, get healthier and feel better. As well like any other diet you cannot eat willy nilly when you finish that would only make you a fool and a fat one at that.
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[steve_d]

The discussion was the keto diet is unhealthy, extreme, eliminates complete food groups, vitamins, fibre, is only useful for competing BB etc etc...

true enough. I don't really think its unhealthy, but yes, a little extreme for the average joe. Although, anything less than 3 trips to a fast food place per week is extreme for the avg joe.

All my clients on a keto diet eat veggies, have plenty of fibre, nutrients, essential fats, limited saturated fats, adequate healthy protein, etc....and to boot all they markers if captured on a blood test improve....all of them.

Would you agree that if they followed a similar diet to yours except for replacing say 50g protein and 10g fat with 75g of carbs, would still result in the individuals blood markers to improve? I am just saying that to again illustrate that any reasonable diet will result in a success if followed.

[Praetorian]

true enough. I don't really think its unhealthy, but yes, a little extreme for the average joe. Although, anything less than 3 trips to a fast food place per week is extreme for the avg joe.
NO IT IS NOT EXTREME FOR THE AVERGAGE JOE...IT IS USED QUITE EXTENSIVELY BY AVERAGE JOES WITH GREAT SUCCESS...IT IS "PERCEIVED" AS EXTREME BECAUSE OF THE MISINFORMATION I PROVIDED ABOVE...HUGE DIFFERENCE!



Would you agree that if they followed a similar diet to yours except for replacing say 50g protein and 10g fat with 75g of carbs, would still result in the individuals blood markers to improve? I am just saying that to again illustrate that any reasonable diet will result in a success if followed.

ANY DIET THAT INCREASES PROTEIN, LOWERS CARBS, AND REDUCES SATURATED FAT WHILE MAINTAINING ESSENTIAL FATTY ACID LEVELS WILL IMPROVE HEALTH...THAT WAS NEVER THE DEBATE

P

[steve_d]

You're right, that wasn't the debate. But I am not debating - and the point wasn't to debate the keto diet, or maybe it was since its in the title. who knows, I just had a simple comment to make about any diet working, especially for this guy.

[Praetorian]

You're right, that wasn't the debate. But I am not debating - and the point wasn't to debate the keto diet, or maybe it was since its in the title. who knows, I just had a simple comment to make about any diet working, especially for this guy.

Then yes you would be correct any decent diet would work...whether it was keto, low carb or otherwise.
P

[daande]

There is nothing wrong with the Palumbo diet. the only thing is for regular people who are not always going to stay disciplined, its just going to mess them up later when they binge on junk after the diet is over. Same goes for any diet though, so not much you can do other than try to not "diet".

The Paulumbo diet can be for regular people who wish to achieve their weightloss goals faster. You just have to be aware that when you come off the diet you still have to slowly reintroduce quality carbs and keep checking the scale and adjust until you hit your maintenance level. Obviously if you come off any diet and run to the near McDoanlds as much as possible you are going to most likely put on more weight then you lost in the first place, due to your metabolism adjusting for the loss of weight.

[Talo]

Why come off it ? If your body works well with litle to no carbs then why bring them back?

I know it's not good to be in a calorie delfict for a long time , but you can stay on the diet and incrase your cals.

[natenator]

Why come off it ? If your body works well with litle to no carbs then why bring them back?

I know it's not good to be in a calorie delfict for a long time , but you can stay on the diet and incrase your cals.

sadly to grow the body does require some carbs.