Decided against the Palumbo diet.

[natenator]

What`s so hard about the keto? Please guys, stop making it sound so friggin easy. The adaptation phase is bad enough as it is, then you`re in the clear for a while, then you gotta have days where you have no fat for given periods of time, then the time after where you have to slowly introduce carbs back in or you get all ****ed up.

Keto is not needed for his goal, and he`s making the right decision not to do it.

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[Ritch]

Whatever Nate, he dosen`t need the diet, it`s for people who want to get competitive ripped, and you know that`s true. So wah wah wah, to your wah wah wah...

[chiplin]

Steve and/or Ritch, would you both agree eating about 2500 calories/day 5-6 meals a day with a nice clean intake would be reasonable ? Majority of it being protein, followed up by fats and carbs ? No carbs after 6... When should I do cardio if I want to maintain as much mass as possible ?

[Talo]

The Paleo Diet is a decent alternative.

[chiplin]

It actually looks fairly simple, just avoid carbs and starchy vegetables pretty much. The link I was looking at didn't have a set plan, just the idea and outline, my understanding is that it's up to the dieter to create a plan that works for them, correct ?

[daande]

I find the keto diet easier to follow than counting calories.

[Praetorian]

Whatever Nate, he dosen`t need the diet, it`s for people who want to get competitive ripped, and you know that`s true. So wah wah wah, to your wah wah wah...

The keto diet is like any other diet it is very useful with all types of people from athletes to obese individuals. There is nothing difficult about the the keto diet that you will not experience on any other diet. People think it is extreme because of the lower carb intake...that is not even close to being correct. The keto diet has been utilized by the medical community to treat obese people for over 50 years...this is not something new. Athletes using the keto diet is new in the last 15-20 years...so if you want to talk about keto its been used far longer on sedentary obese or regular people trying to lose weight than athletes.
The first 72 hours is a bit tough but no tougher than any low carb diet and the balance of the diet is much easier as you are not teasing the brain with glucose. Zero fat days are not necessary in all people only those who are looking to compete and are used sparingly depending on the individual and their progress...some dont need them at all...so that point is moot.
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[rickyboy36]

I find the keto diet easier to follow than counting calories.

You need to follow calories even on a keto diet bro.If you dont,you wont lose as much..unless that's your goal--to go slowly.Im at 2500 cals a day with about 36 grams of protein per meal and the remaining of it fat.Im taking clen and t3..doing cardio and im losing 3lbs "net"(not including the water cause im already depeleted) a week.Ill be at 9% in about a week.What sucks is that i didnt calculate my BF% properly in the beginning.I thought i was at 15..but i was more or less at 20%..

Other than that,its the easiest diet i have ever followed.Im hungry..yes..but not like a low carb diet.Nothing hardcore about it at all..lolll.Yes,you have 1 week of dizziness,and lethargy..then after you are home free.

To each their own i guess..

[Praetorian]

You need to follow calories even on a keto diet bro.If you dont,you wont lose as much..unless that's your goal--to go slowly.Im at 2500 cals a day with about 36 grams of protein per meal and the remaining of it fat.Im taking clen and t3..doing cardio and im losing 3lbs "net"(not including the water cause im already depeleted) a week.Ill be at 9% in about a week.What sucks is that i didnt calculate my BF% properly in the beginning.I thought i was at 15..but i was more or less at 20%..

Other than that,its the easiest diet i have ever followed.Im hungry..yes..but not like a low carb diet.Nothing hardcore about it at all..lolll.Yes,you have 1 week of dizziness,and lethargy..then after you are home free.

To each their own i guess..

Actually I dont count calories on a keto diet...depending on the individuals amount of lean muscle I will adjust protein and fat slightly but I still dont measure the calories.
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[steve_d]

Steve and/or Ritch, would you both agree eating about 2500 calories/day 5-6 meals a day with a nice clean intake would be reasonable ? Majority of it being protein, followed up by fats and carbs ? No carbs after 6... When should I do cardio if I want to maintain as much mass as possible ?

yep, and just watch the mirror and adjust accordingly...don't expect it to come off fast, but you don't want it to, but if it does, then add calories. Like some others, I never count calories when I diet. I compare my diet to a car that only can hold a litre of gas - its not hard to know when to eat when you're always just about to run out of gas.