Dave Palumbo Diet

[nisser]

Will this diet work for a natural?

Yes, I'm not on right now.

[Ogrew]

Will this diet work for a natural?

my log:
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/fo...141#post139141

yes it does

[bossman_1986]

im in week 2 of this diet and so far i have only lost 3 pounds

[gsxr750]

I ran Daves diet twice for 16 weeks each time. I ate quite a bit on my cheat meals...as an example 3-4 slices pizza, 4-5 donuts, couple chocolate bars, and a some ice cream. In 16 weeks i went from approx 13-15% to approx 4-5% BF.
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Wow. Crazy pics man.

[Praetorian]

Metabolic pathways
Most medical resources regard ketosis as a physiological state associated with chronic starvation.[citation needed] Glucose is regarded as the preferred energy source for all cells in the body with ketosis being regarded as a crisis reaction of the body to a lack of carbohydrates in the diet. Ketosis would thus be a dangerous (potentially life-threatening) state which unnecessarily stresses the liver and causes destruction of muscle tissues. This is still the view of the majority in the medical and nutritional science communities[6][7][8], but in recent years it has been challenged by a number of doctors and adherents of low-carbohydrate diets, who dispute both the body's preference for glucose and the dangers associated with ketosis.[9][10][11]

Ketone bodies, from the breakdown of fatty acids to acetyl groups, are also produced during this state, and are burned throughout the body. Excess ketone bodies will slowly decarboxylate into acetone. That molecule is excreted in the breath and urine. When glycogen stores are not available in the cells (glycogen is primarily created when carbohydrates such as starch and sugar are consumed in the diet), fat (triacylglycerol) is cleaved to give 3 fatty acid chains and 1 glycerol molecule in a process called lipolysis. Most of the body is able to utilize fatty acids as an alternative source of energy in a process where fatty acid chains are cleaved to form acetyl-CoA, which can then be fed into the Krebs Cycle. It is important to note that acetyl-CoA can only enter the Krebs Cycle bound to oxaloacetate. When carbohydrate supplies are inadequate, however, the liver naturally converts oxaloacetate to glucose via gluconeogenesis for use by the brain and other tissues. When acetyl CoA does not bind with oxaloacetate, the liver converts it to ketones (or ketone bodies), leading to a state of ketosis. During this process a high concentration of glucagon is present in the serum and this inactivates hexokinase and phosphofructokinase-1 (regulators of glycolysis) indirectly, causing most cells in the body to use fatty acids as their primary energy source. At the same time, glucose is synthesized in the liver from lactic acid, glucogenic amino acids, and glycerol, in a process called gluconeogenesis. This glucose is used exclusively[clarification needed] for energy by cells such as neurons and red blood cells.[citation needed]

^^^ i didnt write this, i stole it off wiki LOL

I dont advocate carb starvation. Mostly cause im biased and love carbs. I do believe that lowering carbs to 10-20% of your calories, and low glycemic indexed carbs are used only, its effective at fat loss. (and i dont want to breath acetone on my lil lady lol)



That being said i know people who have used the P. diet and have had great success, but they never stay on it long. You can lose muscle on it too. It is a mechanism to fight starvation after all. Im told over and over again that i wont like the first few days if i do try it!

~DB~

Post some pics using your low carb diet of 10-20% lets compare. Daves diet is 16 weeks for precontest...its designed that way. You dont lose muscle on the diet because of the inherent laws of ketosis. If you know about ketosis then you would understand that neoglucogenisis happens quite frequently on a low carb diet and not much at all while in ketosis...do the math.
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[Praetorian]

Hi there. You can eat any protein/carb free food in the morning, and still get into ketosis. It won't necessarily be the "palumbo diet", but it still can be an effective "keto" diet. Just make sure your protein intake is approximately 1 gram per pound of lean bodyweight, and your carbs are below 20-30 grams per day. Also, make sure to take in your fats regularly throughout the day.

You require more than 20-30 g carbs per day on a keto diet...Daves diet consists of approx 50g carbs from trace carbs, nuts, veggies etc. To train requires glycogen as ketones are too slow of an energy source for training. Thus the 50g is adequate to get through most training sessions as long as volume is low...ie HIT.
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[randysavage]

Dr. Pasquale had a similar diet. Worked great but wrecked lasting damage to my joints. I will never do it again.

[nisser]

No one has yet made any complaints about acetone breath and all that shit. You're never in deep ketosis for it to make a difference and if you drink plenty of water, most of the excess is excreted through the urine.

[nisser]

ok it's time for me to transition out of this to a low carb-diet and then to maintenance.

any tips/ideas?

Plan is to just cut the fats down and of course introduce the carbs but anything in specific I should avoid?

thinking of just throwin in some oatmeal for breakfast and making sure to have some carb pre-workout (brown rice) and post (dex). Maybe even some other carbs in there as well, I have to look at the cal totals.

[bossman_1986]

Dr. Pasquale had a similar diet. Worked great but wrecked lasting damage to my joints. I will never do it again.

i've been having alot of pain in all my joints since i started this diet, does it get better after you're done and start eating carbs again?