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    Default Too much sets to failure ?

    Hi Ted, I was wondering what is your thought on DY's BLood & guts training ? Only ONE working set per exercise after 1-2 warm-ups...

    Actually doing ~16 out 16 workings sets to failure per training (+ the warm-ups), 4-5x per hard week and it seems to be taxing.

    Yesterday I tried something similar to what DY's recommend in his videos and it felt good. I did 10 exercises, so 10 sets to failure with 1-2 warm-ups on each exercise before.

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    Most people dont realize or mistake DY training as one set to failure. This is far from the truth. Dorian himself has talked about how he did train with Mike Mentzer but he did not think his one set to failure was the answer. Dorian does 3-4 sets but only the last set is to failure and beyond, the previos sets still count as he is going close to failure but not failure itself. Most people jumped on the one set to failure bandwagon when Dorian was MR O as they misinterpreted what it was but it allowed them to be in and out of the gym quickly and thus making the training easier.

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    So I guess I got it right...

    Out of curiosity, how many set do you do to failure per training ?

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    Not a whole lot at the moment. I tend to stop right before failure and use more volume and reps. As i get older I dont need to train as heavy and dont want to for risk of injury thus I use more volume, slightly higher reps and move my compound movements to the end of the workout. Sets per exercise are usually 4 working sets.

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    I see, thanks.

    How much set to failure one should normally do ? Is going to failure on all sets on the hard week can be too much ?

    My strength is continually fluctuating, but mostly going down since a year, especially on the bench. For example, my bench was at 275lbs last year, now I'm at ~225lbs, I'm lighter though. But what's weird is that a week I will lift a weight 7x for example and on the next training I can't do more then 4-5 reps, I've never experienced that much fluctuation. I thought that my CNS was drained, but if I take a break, like when going in vacation and not train for 10 days, I'm coming back even weaker. *

    * Another example, is I took a 2 weeks off from squating (front squat), before I went to vacation I was able to do 245x2, 225x6, 205x10, 185x14, then after I came back, it dropped a lot, even after a month of training after the vacation I'm still far from I was squating, this week I was all in at 195x3, 175x8, 155x10... talk about a set back.

    So I do not understand what happens... maybe I'm getting old and can't keep up.

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    How old are you now?

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    You're on the down slope.Things will get tougher yet.

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    Yeah I've notice, I thought I still had a couple of good years ahead, the thing is sometime I think I go too often to failure so I should back down... but when I do, my strength goes down even further. No sure what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Eric View Post
    Yeah I've notice, I thought I still had a couple of good years ahead, the thing is sometime I think I go too often to failure so I should back down... but when I do, my strength goes down even further. No sure what to do.

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    Upping your gh levels might help on their own,I noticed a difference back in 2009 without any added aas.

    That would be the least disruptive to your system.


 
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