Libido/ED issues after dropping tren ace from cycle

[Hosehead]

I was four weeks into the following 10 week cycle : :

300mg deca
750mg test e
75mg tren ace EOD with pramipexole .5mg daily

In the middle of the fourth week I dropped the tren ace as I injured my elbow once again and I am unable to do any pressing movements whatsoever. I see the surgeon again in a few weeks to talk him into removing my bone spurs and fixing anything else in there that needs it. I continued on with the test e and deca as I this combo has worked in the past to some degree in helping the healing process. The tren ace seemed to be hard on my joints and i figured it'd be out of my system quickly so I dropped it along with the pramipexole. I can sure notice the difference. No sex drive and I am having ED issues despite the fact that I am taking cialis. How do I rectify this ? I would at least like to finish the rest of the cycle. The pramipexole was working well , never slept better in my life and not much sweating at all. Should I just continue on with the pram ?
It should be noted that i have not come off entirely in two years. I bridge between 'cycles' with 325 mg test e for 6-weeks. So yes , no proper PCT for two years. Getting blood work done in a few weeks. Thanks in advance Prae.

Edit : also , I have two kits of GH on hand. Is there any point on using them pre surgery or should i just wait post surgery ? Besides bone spurs I have tricep tendonosis and bursitis. The bursitis can't get better as it's a direct result of the existence of the bone spurs. ART had had no effect on it for two years now.ART seems to be effective to some degree for the tendonosis. I used GH at 2IU prior to a meniscus surgery a few years ago leading up to surgery and it did wonders for healing.

[scottlove]

That's funny, when i used tren the opposite happened. I'd go limp biscuit right in the middle of the action.........I swear honey, this has never happened before.

[Hosehead]

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[Hosehead]

When I was on tren I was ON. Hard as rock all the time , no cialis needed. I am wondering if it's not so much the absence of the tren as it's the absence of the pramipexole . Pram can produce hyperalgesia , which can cause pain that is out of proportion to the condition. In my case it's hard to know as I do have a few conditions going on in my elbow and I genrally have a high pain tolerance , if you believe that pain tolerance can be measured. Right now I barely tolerate it physically , less much mentally.

[scottlove]

That's shitty, a jacked-up elbow can ruin pretty much every workout, except legs. Pretty tough to work around it.

[Praetorian]

Removing the tren will no doubt cause a lowered libido as it is a few times stronger androgenic wise than test. Ive seen this many times. ALso the tren is not hard on joints at all that is something else. I would suggest since you are having all kinds of joint issues etc to drop the pram and the deca...just run the test which should alleviate the libido issue...and ease up on training a bit and get the issues looked at. The GH you could start at 2iu per day just to aid in joint issues and libido.,..it does help with sex drive. Take the cialis the night before at bedtime and you will notice an increase in libido the next day. Then you can take one a half hour before sex.

The thing is androgens can affect people differently....with test some have high libido up to a certain dosage then it drops off. With tren some are crazy horny others it kills libido totally.

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[Hosehead]

[QUOTE=Praetorian;451561]Removing the tren will no doubt cause a lowered libido as it is a few times stronger androgenic wise than test. Ive seen this many times. ALso the tren is not hard on joints at all that is something else. I would suggest since you are having all kinds of joint issues etc to drop the pram and the deca...just run the test which should alleviate the libido issue...and ease up on training a bit and get the issues looked at. The GH you could start at 2iu per day just to aid in joint issues and libido.,..it does help with sex drive. Take the cialis the night before at bedtime and you will notice an increase in libido the next day. Then you can take one a half hour before sex.

The thing is androgens can affect people differently....with test some have high libido up to a certain dosage then it drops off. With tren some are crazy horny others it kills libido totally.

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Thanks again Prae. I'm feeling the libido coming back a tad. As for the elbow issues , which are a much greater concern - I will be having surgery. Just waiting for a date. The bone spurs won't fix themselves obviously. In the meantime I think that I could help speed up the tendon repair significantly pre surgery. Did it with my meniscus at just 2 IU daily for 50 days and I was squatting 315 for reps the day before. IMO the stuff worked wonders. This time I'm taking a whole month off upper body and plan on running some low dose test with GH and IGF 1 LR3. Any suggestions on the dosage of IGF 1 LR3 ? Anecdotally there are many different protocals out there. Some as low as 40mcg and some as high as 200mcg daily. I see now upon reading in the hormone profiles that IronWill liked 20mcg post workout with protein /carbs at 80/60. Since I will not be training anything but legs for the first month of the protocol should I be concerned about taking the IGF 1LR3 with food or simply upon waking with the HGH ? Any point in adding slin in there ? Thanks in advance

[Want2lift]

Make sure your test is HRT low. Hugh then normal test levels will slow down collagen synthesis. GH and IGF sound like great ideas.

[Hosehead]

Make sure your test is HRT low. Hugh then normal test levels will slow down collagen synthesis. GH and IGF sound like great ideas.

I had never heard that before. I was planning on running 300-350 test e .

[cog]

I had never heard that before. I was planning on running 300-350 test e .

iIRC,Nate mentioned test over 300 slows collagen synthesis a few years back.