Junior Dos Santos vs Overeem UFC146

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Http:www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fabricio-Werdum-8390

Lost in 1.21 to Junior,decision loss to Overeem.

Correct....however, there was 3 years in between those fights. I'm thinking Fab had improved quite a bit in those 3 years. Keep in mind, Fabricio had JUST beat Fedor before fighting Overeem...the first guy to do so (in a legit way, at least! haha)

Mark Hunt looked good against Kongo,quite a few submission losses,including one to Fedor.

Also correct...but what's the relevance? It's not like Jr. is a submission guy.

Junior is naturally the bigger man.

What makes you say that? Overeem is taller and heavier. Or, are you making reference to the juice again? I don't think Overeem is going to lose 15lbs of muscle THAT quickly.

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Overeem was fighting at 205 a number of years back,IIRC.Testing was not serious at these other orgs,if at all.Living ON has it's advantages.Now it's over.

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You're right...he did fight at 205....and testing wasn't as serious in the other organizations (at least it wasn't in Pride...I'm not sure about K-1 to be honest). I'm making an assumption here...but, I think it's reasonable to assume that he wasn't on gear constantly. If that's true, I don't see how he'd lose 15lbs of muscle before the Jr. fight.

Now, I could be wrong with my assumptions. I'll admit that....but, when we saw each of them last, Overeem was the bigger guy. He's also taller, isnt' he?

[cog]

An inch.And I would concede knees to Overeem.

[gustavo77]

Overeem is subject to additional surprise tests since he forgot about that first one and skipped back to Holland.Then handed over an unverified sample to his personal physician.Life is going to be tough on 175 mg a week.

That actually seems like a high dose for HRT....everyone is different though.

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That actually seems like a high dose for HRT....everyone is different though.

Yeah I'm taking his size and workout regimen into account,and likely a liberal doc.

[DnA]

JDS will take this one. Overeem starts off too slow.

[cog]

Didn't take very long to flush him out.Overeem flunked his test March 27.Looks like the fight is off.

http://sports.ca.msn.com/top-stories...ls-drug-test-1

[cog]

Overeem's test to epitestosterone ratio exceeded 10:1.

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Damnit!