Hey Todd, If I saw the pics of the competitors i could much more easily give an accurate assesment as i forget alot. I do remember thinking that abdul would win. I remmber thinking he would be close. I remeber thinking that the celis guy had the best build but does not even come in with provincial level definition. He would easily have won had he dieted for another month. Celis shape is so good that i expected him to place about 3rd. AS for urself I was picking u to finish ini the exact spot that u finsihed in both classes. The call outs make it easy as if ur not in the first callout u cant be in the first callout placings. Really ur weakness would be legs, just not enough mass and sweep. Check out celis in comparison. And definitiuon could still improve even though u were not far off being shreded. If I were steve m.. Id just be happy as hell that I won my class and forget the other class. It really could flip flop so easy cus ur picking out completely different bodies. I rembmer not liking his posing. He posed like old school and never seemed to get into it. Kinda like the classical posing style from back in the day. Id compare it to me going on the beach and seeing some girls walk by and thinking one girl was the hotest and then when they walk back to their towels 20 minutes later another girl stood out more. Its really just to close and too completely diff. physiques to be able to constantly placve everyone the same. im sure a diff set of judges would have had diff placings as well. Its not like powerlifting where its easy to see who wins its more liek a beauty pageant.