BCAA's

[Talo]

amino acids =protein=calories....there is no such thing as zero calories from BCAA. If dieting correctly BCAA are unnecessary.
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True , but if a person is taking in 30g throughout the day it's like having 1220 calories over a 12-16 hour period , not going to effect you much ( that's like 7-10 cals every hour) But if you slam 30g ( 120 cals ) in one drink that is a bit different.

[Talo]

No way do they slow down weight loss. How does something that`s anti catabolic slow down weight loss? Slow down or hault muslce loss would be a better choice of words.

However you want to say it if your weight is not going down ( due to muscle haulting or whatever) it's still going slower. It's all weight.

I didn't say fat loss is slower.

[tiramisu]

I remember back in the early 80's when they were hyping bcaa's and everyone jumped on the bandwagon for 6 months and then back off again. Twenty years later we have come full circle.

There is absolutely nothing wrong w/ BCAA's it just that you don't need them. You are getting all your essential proteins and lots of unessential ones from your diet if you have structured it properly and if you haven't a couple of BCAA capsules aren't going to do it for you.

[Ritch]

There is absolutely nothing wrong w/ BCAA's it just that you don't need them. You are getting all your essential proteins and lots of unessential ones from your diet if you have structured it properly and if you haven't a couple of BCAA capsules aren't going to do it for you.

We`re not talking about a few of those roody poo 600mg capsules here. I`m talking 10 grams of leucine and 10 grams of bcaa intra and post workout... Big difference. In the 80`s they didn`t go with doeses that high. If they did, the bottle would have lasted a few days...

[#8]

No way do they slow down weight loss. How does something that`s anti catabolic slow down weight loss? Slow down or hault muslce loss would be a better choice of words.

i also dont understand this statement. how can they possibly slow down weight loss?

[gmoney]

I was wondering about this myself and did a little research. typical whey isolate amino acid profile:

Leucine = 11.8g/100g of protein
Isoleucine = 7.3g/100g of protein
Valine = 6.5g/100g of protein

I take two servings of whey isolate per day each containing 45g of protein, this translates to:

Leucine = 10.6g per day
Isoleucine = 6.6g per day
Valine = 5.8g per day

So if one were to purchase a typical 2:1:1 BCAA product and consume 20g per day they would be consuming:

Leucine = 10g per day
Isoleucine = 5g per day
Valine = 5g per day

So you're essentially getting the exact same thing from your whey protein isolate. Some whey isolates may contain more or less BCAA's but that is the typical profile.

I can't justify spending $25/lb on BCAA's when I'm already gettin them in my $8/lb whey isolate.

[JacktheThriller]

^^ epic fail.

BCAA's are also an excellent source of aminos that add no calories to your diet which makes them perfect for a late night protein source or before bed.

id stick to PCT and dieting when anti catabolics are most important.

^^

SUPER EPIC FAIL

BCAA = Amino acids the building blocks from protein = 4cals/gram

if you dont know this you need to buy a nutrition book and do some reading

after your daily protein intake BCAA are practically useless because you wont use it, probably 29 of the 30 grams you take in will turn into glucose, congrats you just wasted serious money on glucose.

[NACanada]

[QUOTE=JacktheThriller;345746]^^

SUPER EPIC FAIL

BCAA = Amino acids the building blocks from protein = 4cals/gram

if you dont know this you need to buy a nutrition book and do some reading

after your daily protein intake BCAA are practically useless because you wont use it, probably 29 of the 30 grams you take in will turn into glucose, congrats you just wasted serious money on glucose.[/QUOT

BCAA powder is invaluable IMO. Virtually calorieless (new word) and slows catabolism...especially when cutting. Even if it is overrated the cost is minimal when you think of all the time and money you spend putting on mass.

[Ritch]

I was wondering about this myself and did a little research. typical whey isolate amino acid profile:

Leucine = 11.8g/100g of protein
Isoleucine = 7.3g/100g of protein
Valine = 6.5g/100g of protein

I take two servings of whey isolate per day each containing 45g of protein, this translates to:

Leucine = 10.6g per day
Isoleucine = 6.6g per day
Valine = 5.8g per day

So if one were to purchase a typical 2:1:1 BCAA product and consume 20g per day they would be consuming:

Leucine = 10g per day
Isoleucine = 5g per day
Valine = 5g per day

So you're essentially getting the exact same thing from your whey protein isolate. Some whey isolates may contain more or less BCAA's but that is the typical profile.

I can't justify spending $25/lb on BCAA's when I'm already gettin them in my $8/lb whey isolate.

For the amino`s to do their job they must be taken empty stomach with little or no other amino acids present. That`s why you won`t get the effects from the same amount of amino`s you`d find in your shake. So when you train you`re stomach is often near empty making it the perfect time to spike your water bottle or better yet your gatorade with high doses of bcaa`s. Post workout the same can be done, then 30-60 minutes later you drink you protein drink. Then an hour later or so you have a meal. You`ve just given your body 3 amino pulses this way which I`m convinced speeds up muscle recovery and dramatically reduces DOMS.

When cutting this works big time, not sure I`d use the bcaa`s when I`m eating for mass.

[tiramisu]

"For the amino`s to do their job they must be taken empty stomach with little or no other amino acids present. "

Did you just make this shit up on the fly?