Dave Palumbo Diet

[kloan]

I was somewhere around 200g protein, 120g fat, 30-40g carbs.

I replaced peanut butter with almond butter.

What about fiber supplements? Any of you guys use fiber? That's the only thing that was an unknown for me, because fiber is carbs, and I was taking a fiber supplement every day. I wasn't sure if that could somehow interfere with ketosis.

The way I can describe how I felt is that it felt like I was stuck in the preliminary stage of entering ketosis. After a few days I felt great, I was in ketosis.. but after a couple weeks it felt like I wasn't quite in keto anymore and couldn't seem to get into it.

Perhaps the carb/cheat meal once a week threw things off as well. If I do the diet again, I'm not going to bother with the cheat meal, or if I do I'll have to get some advice how to do it better so that I only get the carbs I need without going overboard.

[btufts]

So far i havn't had the need for a fiber supplement. As far as having a feeling of being in ketosis i don't think its a thing that you can feel. And for training basically just hit everything as hard as you can within 30-60min so you don't tap into glycogen storage. You want your refeed meal once a week to spike your insulin levels, it'll actually help speed up your metabolism and fills glycogen levels in your muscles. DONT SKIP IT. Just make it your last meal of the day and make it a HUGE protein + carbs with minimal fat. Mostly carbs that is. 400g i believe is what Praetorian recommended.

[kloan]

This is my personal experience with ketosis.

Ketosis for me feels like a slight head buzz energetic but slightly tweaked feeling. I can tell when I'm in ketosis, it has a different feel than when eating carbs. But I am also very sensitive to carbs, it affects my emotions and energy level significantly.. usually negatively.

I am hypoglycemic, so when I eat I normally get tired... when my blood sugar drops I get a frantic energy. With keto when I need to eat I get tired, and after I eat I get energy. The complete opposite to when I eat carbs.

Also when I'm in keto, I seem to have a get up and go energy, can't sit still. The lethargy is gone. Not quite full of zesty spunk, but feels like I want to keep moving, keep busy. My head also feels clearer, can think quicker.

[btufts]

well if you say you lost that feeling maybe your body has become used to the feeling and the "stimulating" effect has worn off, but you are probably still in ketosis if your diet stays the same. If you begin losing energy add a bit more fat to each meal

[kloan]

yeah it's worth another shot

[Ritch]

Surely Nate you believe there is more than one method to get built. Then why is it you seem to think keto is the only way to get cut? It dosen`t work for everybody. Deal with it, lol... Not all pro`s use it. Ronnie never used it, Rhul didn`t either. Plenty of ripped freaks who never used it as it made them look like shit. And don`t give me that "then they didn`t pay somebody thousands of dollars to tailor the diet for them crap." It`s a total joke today how everybody seems to need their own coach to get ripped. It`s beyond overrated...

But let me clarify again. I think the person who wants to compete is making a good choice doing keto. But let`s not forget the avarage forum member is not looking to get that cut ( cheeks sucked in look, ripped glutes...) therefore it is totally possible and way less suffering to do it the way I said.

[devo09]

Also if you`re natural, forget it bro! That statement has been backed up here as well.

this!

. Drugs change things

[jamex]

What exactly is the problem doing keto natural? I've been on it for almost 4 weeks now and have been seeing results past the initial 1 week dry up. I lost some size\strength but figured that was normal and would return quickly once the diet is discontinued.

What I'd like to know is does anyone else get the shitty headaches? They've mostly subsided but I still get that sensation like a headband is pulled too tightly. Not really painful but noticeable nonetheless.

[Ritch]

What exactly is the problem doing keto natural?

Recovery is the main problem, which kinda makes me question the whole "this diet is awesome as it increases test levels with all the healthy fats" Well if my test levels are so high, why is my recovery so bad? Anyway, in the end like anything else, not every plan out there can work for everybody.

[natenator]

Surely Nate you believe there is more than one method to get built. Then why is it you seem to think keto is the only way to get cut? It dosen`t work for everybody. Deal with it, lol... Not all pro`s use it. Ronnie never used it, Rhul didn`t either. Plenty of ripped freaks who never used it as it made them look like shit. And don`t give me that "then they didn`t pay somebody thousands of dollars to tailor the diet for them crap." It`s a total joke today how everybody seems to need their own coach to get ripped. It`s beyond overrated...

But let me clarify again. I think the person who wants to compete is making a good choice doing keto. But let`s not forget the avarage forum member is not looking to get that cut ( cheeks sucked in look, ripped glutes...) therefore it is totally possible and way less suffering to do it the way I said.

No where have I ever said keto was the only way to get cut but I will agree with what Praetorian has said before and that, logically (that is me speaking) keto is the most efficient means of dieting. If you can do with keto what you can with low carbs but only faster than why go a low carb approach?

As there are many ways to build it there are many ways to lose it and I've never said otherwise. I took exception to your statement that a keto diet was misery when that's been the exact opposite to those many who have run keto.

I've done all sorts of diet strategies out there to just lean out or get into contest shape and I felt way better on keto than I have any other type of diet. I held onto muscle and increased strength while keeping energy levels up and doing 2-2.5 hrs of cardio/day and was rarely hungry. The cardio was due to starting so out of shape to begin with

Digestion issues were really my only problem with the diet but I feel it had more to do with me than the diet.