I am actually in the middle of getting that tweaked by some guy, it won't change much, but I wanted to wait a few weeks until I get the new routine on the road.Originally Posted by gustavo77
Should I post in this thread or create a new thread in the diet and nutrition section?
Glutamine does nothing for me. Again: MSM, glucosamine, multi, fish oil (nutra) and whey isolate by Allmax work for me - nothing else out there, even tribulus.
I would post a new thread Bro.
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Glutamine does nothing for you?? How do you know this?? So the other 1000's of people that take it for decreased recovery time and immune system support are full of shit??
Bro, how much glutamine were you taking, how often, at what time during the day did you take it?? With or without food??
Glutamine will not make you huge in a week but it will help you recover faster, boost your immune system and hydrate your muscles...in the short term you may not feel much but in the long term this will equal more muscle.
This is just my opinion but you are no where near ready to use any drugs for BB purposes...you need to eat, train and rest, that;s all...if all this is happening to slow for you, then you may need to find another hobby cause bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint.
Good points!
Glutamine: I took the one by Optimum Nutrition, 5g in the morning on the empty stomach, 5 g post-workout, or on off days 5 g in the evening, before bed, before my last meal. After a month I did not feel any different in terms of recovery, but I have a feeling someone will step in now and tell me that I should have waited for at least a year... d'oh!
Creatine: I did the same, except for I took 10g dosages for 6 days, at which point I started to notice more volume, but as soon as I reduced the dosage to 5g, the volume disappeared.
You are right - I am no-where near the use of any drugs. I'm okay with the marathon thing though. Just to clarify: creatine hydrates the muscle cells, which increases the rate of protein synthesis, based on what I understand. This does not translate into short-term strength increase, but because the muscles recover better between workouts, this does result in long-term strength gain as well as volume increase.
So, could someone please comment on my use of creatine and glutamine? I want to know:
At what time during the day to take the stuff?
How many grams per serving?
What is the cycle length, if any?
Loading? Is it just marketing hype?
Well, what are you looking for in terms of results??
Creatine does increase ATP (Adenosine triphosphate) so you should notice an increase in stamina during workouts...so you should have noticed something in terms of workout capacity, stamina and strength...if not, i would question the quality of the product you were using.
Glutamine is very subtle...but after 3-4 weeks, you should have noticed a little more fullness in your muscles and less soreness/faster recovery from workouts...
Personally i think you are looking for too much in supplements....at the end of the day, your training and diet are what will make you grow not supplements.
Take 10g of glutamine on an empty stomach first thing in the morning...wait 10-15 minutes before eating food or you can take a protein shake right away.
Take another 10g of glutamine with a postworkout drink listed below:
PWO drink:
50grams of dextrose, powdered gatorade or waxy maize
10 grams of glutamine
5 grams of creatine
5 grams of BCAA powder
20-30 min later drink 50grams of whey protein. 30-45 minutes later eat PWO meal.
You can take creatine Pre-workout also but i do not think it is necessary...
prokyon. Listen to gus i have learned alot form this guy ,
I agree 100% with everything he has said bro
Cool, thanks! I will add that into my diet, I would just increase the creatine to 10g per serving. 5g just does not cut it for me in terms of absorption, I know this much for a fact. I am also on a ketogenic diet, I respond to carbs badly, even stuff like waxy maize, so I would not add the carbs above. I get my energy from fish oil for now and any fats that are in meats that I eat, although they're as lean as possible, but still there are some fats present. I should probably add some MCTs as a fat/energy source at some point. After workout in PWO shake is a good idea.
You need some carbs post workout bro, it wont make you fat or bring you out of ketosis
Okay, but how many g of carbs? I think 20g is ample, maybe 30g is enough. I think that 50g is too much. And what is wrong with replacing carbs with MCTs as a source of energy?
I'm not saying that anyone is wrong, I just want to understand this.
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