What the price you're seeing? I was at costco the other day and it was $40 for 4.4lbs same as what Meathelmet said earlier in the post.
Originally Posted by Ritch
What the price you're seeing? I was at costco the other day and it was $40 for 4.4lbs same as what Meathelmet said earlier in the post.
Yeah, same price, it`s an isolate. I`m not saying it`s the best one but it`s 85% pure. How much is your 5 lbs of iso? I`m pretty sure it`s more. I just calculated, it would come to $52.8 for 4.4 lbs. I`m not saying it`s a bad price, it`s a good price, it`s just that somebody said it`s the cheapest...
If consumer magazine claims to know what consumers want, how come they`re still a magazine?
Let`s not forget liquid energy that offers 20lbs of whey for 220... That`s $55 for 5 lbs. It`s a tough business!
If consumer magazine claims to know what consumers want, how come they`re still a magazine?
Ok, lets do some math...hopefully my brain is still working
Kaizen has a $40 4.4lbs. tub of isolate at 85% protein per serving.
TS has a $35 5lbs. of blend (with main ingredient isolate) at 79% per serving.
So if you consider the ratios:
Kaizen - 4.4lbs. x 0.85 = 3.74lbs. of protein per unit
TS - 5lbs. x 0.79 = 3.95lbs. of protein per unit
Conclusion...you're getting 0.21lbs. more protein per unit and it's $5 cheaper. You may argue the fact that it's 100% isolate, well at our ratio compared to theirs, we run a lot of isolate in our blends, so are you really getting that much more and is it really worth it to go with something that's $5 more expensive and on top of it you're actually not getting as much of the good stuff per container?
As for the other guy you mentioned...
their isolate is an 84% protein to serving ratio. Our Isolate is around 90% and our blend actually get's tested around 80%...so if our blend is around 80% that should give an idea of how high quality the protein is and just how much isolate is used along with a very high quality filtered concentrate.
Is an extra $20 per 5lbs. really worth an increase of 4% per serving? I would say it would be if it was in the neighborhood of a 10% increase...same goes for the above example with Kaizen...
Also, if you're spending $200, well $200-$499 you get 5% off so that knocks our isolate down to $56.99 and if you consider the protein to serving ratio I believe you'll be paying less for 20lbs going with TS isolate anyways if you want to get right down to it.
Plus you can mix an match flavors with us no matter the quantity...
But, non the less very competitive and yes it is a tough business
Last edited by Canadian Protein.com; 17-09-2009 at 01:28 AM.
It`s good to know your blend is mostly isolate. I read the profile of it and saw isolate was the first ingredient. But for the price I didn`t think it was so. So the blend indeed is a kick ass price But why is a protein that is 100% iso cost nearly twice as much as the blend? If the blend is mostly iso anyway, the price difference for the 100% iso seems expensive. Maybe you can lay out the math so my feabal brain can understand here...
But having said that your blend prices are very good and will most likely give the blend a try as I the kaizen is starting to get old on the taste buds.
How much DHA are in your omega gels? Couldn`t see it listed on the site.
If consumer magazine claims to know what consumers want, how come they`re still a magazine?
To be honest with you, to run with 100% pure isolate like ours is simply expensive as this is just a very pure form of protein without any other type of protein and as little flavoring, sweetener, and no lactose, cabs, fats, and etc. so that's what you're paying for...but 2 other reasons why our blend is so affordable are:
1) There is concentrate in there - We do run concentrate in our blend but it is an 80% concentrate (which is a very filtered concentrate), which does knock down the price quite a bit. But, like I stated earlier there is quite a bit of isolate in the blend and if you were to try it you'd see that from how well it mixes and the quality of it.
2) economies of scale - We sell more blend than isolate which gives us the opportunity to offer our customers a better price. Basically, every price break we encounter we also pass this onto our customers. So, the more we sell and the more you buy, the cheaper it will be for everyone
The DHA content of our omega-3 gelcaps is:
Elcosapentaenoic Acid (EPA) -180 mg/capsule
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA) -120 mg/capsule
We are also now running these gelcaps with an enteric coating designed to release in the small intestine, thereby reducing fish oil reflux and that unpleasant fish breathe you might sometimes experience with other brands.
We have yet to post this on or site, but is on our to do list
Last edited by Canadian Protein.com; 17-09-2009 at 11:35 AM.
Can you do this calculation but compare PROTEIN (g) per tub? What's in the remaining 20% could make the difference.Ok, lets do some math...hopefully my brain is still working
Kaizen has a $40 4.4lbs. tub of isolate at 85% protein per serving.
TS has a $35 5lbs. of blend (with main ingredient isolate) at 79% per serving.
So if you consider the ratios:
Kaizen - 4.4lbs. x 0.85 = 3.74lbs. of protein per unit
TS - 5lbs. x 0.79 = 3.95lbs. of protein per unit
Sure Bro,
Kaizen - 4.4lbs. x 0.85 = 3.74lbs. (or 1698 grams) of protein per unit (or per container)
TS - 5lbs. x 0.79 = 3.95lbs. (or 1793.3 grams) of protein per unit (or per container)
In terms of what makes up the rest, well you have the flavoring, sweetners, natural ingredients, natural occuring carbohydrates and fats, etc. just like anything else...protein is no different than any other type of food products.
You misunderstood.
Compare the protein per serving size and the number of servings per tub, then calculate the price per gram.
Price per gram:
Kaizen = $0.0236/gram
TS = $0.0195/gram
Serving size and servings per container are kind of irrelevant, companies can put whatever scoop size they want in there which will completely change the serving size and servings per container...you need to look at the protein to serving ratio.
is that what you're talking about?
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