have any of you guys worked with him? is so, what do you think of him as a trainer?
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have any of you guys worked with him? is so, what do you think of him as a trainer?
I know Johnny has.
Dude, talked to Lou as he has used him. Not sure if he is still with him or not but I know he was for 2005 Provincials
Lou was working with Palumbo for his last show, he wasnt too thrilled with his results. Same with Pakulski.
Abels a good coach. Trying to get info on why he has you do somethings was like pulling teeth. Pretty basic stuff as far as diet and supps go. I didnt like fat loading though, it's never worked well for me. Gets me dry but doesnt fill me out much. His training is high volume and structured workouts.
^ Lou was with him when he was the Ontarios (which i thought was his best condition and size ever) then started to work with Dave Palumbo as a pro and turned out looking kinda shitty for his pro debut. no carbs for Lou is not a good choice IMO.
i thought he did low volume and low reps?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyO
He is a great trainer if you have the Genes you should always place tops 3,seen many win under his belt.
very expensive and will ruin you. i know a few who have "trained" under him. not worth it.
can you explain in more details as to how he will ruin u?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey #8
Yes do you care to elaborate on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey #8
dude, seriously. Do not speak of what you do not know. I know I sound rude saying this but you clearly do not have the knowledge or experience to speak about someone like Scott Abel - good or bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey #8
Does he push his competitors to the limits? Absolutely. He knows how to win and what it takes to win. If his methods "ruin" someone it's they allowed it and weren't able to recognize they just don't have what it takes. Scott is not for everyone and he will not be your coach or your mentor or your cheerleader. He is a trainer. Do what he says or **** off.
This goes also goes for:
Laura Binetti
Chad Nichols (no experience, just what i know from those who have worked with him)
Hany Rambod
Fouad Abiad (no experience, just what i know from those who have worked with him)
I've worked with both Laura and Fouad and holy **** let me tell you they are brutally honest with you. Exactly the type of trainer a competitor needs.
Expensive --- True (worth it... yes)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey #8
I don't know what you mean by "ruin you". His clients are normally the ones taking top spots at shows.
I followed his cycle diet for 6 months last year to prepare for a show, and it was the easiest thing ever. I got lean and put muscle on at the same time. Right now, I'm also following his 6 day MET hybrid training program, and holy fukk..... its the hardest workouts i have ever done. It gives a whole new meaning to Intensity.
Agree man. Lou looked awesome in 05.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadianmuscle0803
He was the biggest 200lb man I have ever seen lol
i DO know what im talking about, as a very good friend of mine trained with him for a LONG time. i have been on his website and i have even spoken with him via email on a few occasions and no doubt this guy knows how to get results, and can make a competitive bodybuilder out of you if you have the guts. my friend was training with him to prepare for a show and she was given starvation calories and an ATROCIOUS clen regimen to follow. i remember reading an article he posted about how female competitors had been destroying their metabolisms with over use and abuse of stimulants and low calorie diets. this is EXACTLY what he did to my friend, to the point that her hair was falling out near the end of training with him. thankfully she no longer trains with him and hasnt for a long time. im not saying you wont get results from him, but prepare to ruin your body in the quest for greatness and pay through to nose to do it.
Scott is a very intelligent man when it comes to the body and he does have plenty of experience...but for every guy in shape hes worked with there are those that are not....Marlon John being one example. I have also seen some atrocious drug protocols for a few athletes that I have taken over as they were not pleased with their results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey #8
Lets get this straight however...i never try to belittle another trainer because I feel they deserve the benefit of the doubt....the athete needs to shoulder much of the responsibility because they need to follow the advice given. They dont always do. Lou looked great at his Pro debut considering it was his first time with Dave and you dont learn a persons body overnight. Also the level of conditioning in 2005 was not what it is today. Striated glutes are the norm now and that means many guys end up sacraficing some size to get there. The sport has changed dramatically since then. Each trainer has different ways of doing things and you need to be comfortable with that, Dave likes HIT training, low volume, keto diet, etc....I prefer this because compared to the regular BB diet it works for me and my clients much better. Scott prefers a more volume circuit type workout with carbs in the diet (non keto) and burning more calories in the gym than just cardio.
You need to try both methods to find what you prefer and what gets you into shape...ie striated glutes.
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I really enjoy his blog and studying his theories, just as much as I enjoy Praetorians posts.. quality..
Jersey I know a girl who had the same experiences with him. Maybe it's the same girl? She was on a pretty strict diet, I think 1100 calories a day but she was always eating chocolate and stuff like that and Scott knew it.
What he didn't know was that she was bulimic and throwing up most of those calories.. :S
no doubt the guy knows what hes talking about, but so do many people. some of the best results ive seen in athletes came from sports related strength training coaches. granted its not bodybuilding specific, but comparable in terms of success without the harsh effect on ones body. PM me your friends name and ill tell you if we know the same chick. i doubt its the same girl though cause my friend was hardcore on her diet, ive never seen anyone as dedicated to eating as she was.
I just got an email back from him, he does not give cycle advice with his program, what a joke.
When i competes in the 2002 toronto Pamela Howard was there and she looked great for the show,and now she is Pro.He know his stuff,but there will always be a few that aren't happy with there result,the real Keys is you fine a Training style you can handle when you diet,and find the right diet that works for then you have to suffer a bit,nothing is easy,i feel it right now on my diet.
I like hit training low volume since i only have so much gas in the tank,i save my enengy for the 1 hour Cardio.
I follow the Dr.Mauro DiPasquale diet,but you can play with the diet so i mainly take EFA's for fat,and not as much Meat.