needing advice for the GF from an honest source

ok, ive been in the scene for quite a while and its basically a known fact that to be competitive in the fitness or figure shows you need to be using somehting...maybe not AAS but at least t3 or clen or something...

my GF has great genetics and is very driven. she has great structure and potential.

she wants to compete but needs some honest straight forward experienced advice.

what is the safest and most effective products she could take?

she has asked about T3 and from what i know it may have the potential to create long term sides...

im not a huge fan of clen having used it in past

what are the ladies using now?

what is safe?

i know diet and training are number one. she has more or less got that down. ive competed on a reasonable level and she has it down better than me.

please let me know your thoughts. i want to provide her some quality advice.

Stats dude, age height, body fat currently etc......

pictures or no advice

thats what I was once told :popc

5'7" 155lbs - roughly 20-25% bf id say. average bf for a woman.

muscular build with small waste good shoulder back and arm development

she has played national level athletics and has a strong athletic back ground.

10mg turi a day 3 weeks / 10 mg var a day 3 week / Clen + wintab 10mg a day 3 weeks til contest day / last week adex or nolva
T3 harsh on mass
Hitt type cardio / high reps with tempo weight lift

do a show naturally first, then decide. too many people jump in way too early. especially women. how old as well?

she is 28. id prefer she not use anything either. she is pressing me so im looking to go as mild but as helpful as possible. this is just preliminary.

Post up her diet.

Diet, cardio, and training come first...post it.
As for ergogenic aids...when it comes to aas anavar is the only compound women should ever touch...anything else will cause virulization to some degree.
For fat burning and muscle retention clen+T3 +gh works well and is safe for women if used correctly. Nolvadex used the last 8 weeks will help mobilize stubborn estrogen fat stores as well as increase hardness.
Again these are all tools that can be utilized at some point in time...however without a decent diet, training schedule, and cardio schedule you will be wasting time and money.
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Originally Posted by Goliath

ok, ive been in the scene for quite a while and its basically a known fact that to be competitive in the fitness or figure shows you need to be using somehting...maybe not AAS but at least t3 or clen or something...

my GF has great genetics and is very driven. she has great structure and potential.

she wants to compete but needs some honest straight forward experienced advice.

what is the safest and most effective products she could take?

she has asked about T3 and from what i know it may have the potential to create long term sides...

im not a huge fan of clen having used it in past

what are the ladies using now?

what is safe?

i know diet and training are number one. she has more or less got that down. ive competed on a reasonable level and she has it down better than me.

please let me know your thoughts. i want to provide her some quality advice.

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Gonna call Bullshit on your "known fact"
I did figures and fitness (nationals) completely natty.. Oh.. and I kinda did not to bad in em either

first bb show on less "supps" than most bikini girls (10 mg nolva 10 mg var, clen 40 mg for 3 weeks only)

everyone wants to be a first year superstar.. dont really work that way...

good luck

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Originally Posted by Praetorian

when it comes to aas anavar is the only compound women should ever touch...anything else will cause virulization to some degree.

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It gets faked a lot and if its a different compound, then virulization is still a risk. Do you agree that women should only use human grade?

From what I have learnt and researched, if she is looking for the least side effects and the safest, I would say stick with anavar and clen.

the bottom line and TRUTH IS....
you put steriods in a female body you are will get some side effects
some good
some bad
you wanna play you gotta pay
how much you get depends on different factors
genetics, how much you use, how long you use it for etc
if you know what you are up against
and you are willing to accept the consequences
then have at er
people drink (alcohol), smoke, eat crap food, whatever
people take risks with themselves all the time
so as long as you go in with eyes wide open
and you are an adult
it's your life live it as you choose