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Thanks buddy
Yeah I've got the bible in hand. Not much is changing until Wednesday when we bring fats and carbs back in and then we are judging it from there but the plan is set. Not much shit loading....more clean than anything which is the way I like to go. I think it's stupid when people go and eat like a 12" pizza after the weigh in and shit like that! They say they look better but I think they are just carb drunk ahaha!!
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Originally Posted by shredded_Tris
Copy that...everyone is different...kick some ass:a+
u ate 1500 grams of carbs 200 grams protein and 80 grams of fat sat? so like over 7000 calories. did u consider that u could have eated an extra 500 cals each day that week and had way more energy felt better looked better trained harder and lost more fat then starving urself every day and eating 5000 extra cals all at once and having to force feed. I jsut wish bodybuilding could be made more healthy and fun for the avg person. I dont understand the logic in doing this. Oh well everyone has their own training methods. Good luck at the show ill be there mornign and night.
You just hate when people don't follow the Greg Doucette method don't you? You know, not everyone is the same right? Last time I checked you thought Keto Diets were stupid anyways so, who's to say you really fully know everything to be able to Criticise everyone who doesn't follow your methods to a TQuote:
Originally Posted by gregdoucette
Prae knows exactly what he is doing and I will continue to follow his word as gospal. We will see how this shows on Saturday.
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And I didn't say anywhere that I ate 1500grams of carbs and challenge you to show me that man
I think I read 1200-1500 grams of carbs. Instead of me looking back u could jsut let me know how many it was. I'm not trying to start a fight or even an argument just like to debate topics. Ur right i am totally against the keto diet mostly for health reasons and post show rebounds. I'm not asking or telling anyone to follow my diet. I think I mentioned not everyone does everything the same way.
When ur as passionate about something as much as I am and I would argue that I am one of the most passionate competitors in the country i wish for the best in everyone else who does what I do. I don't cheer against anyone I hope everyone does there best and reaches their goals. Same goes for u. I wish u the best of luck and training and hope u can accomplish what u set out to do.
I may have missread or overcalculated the calories u took in in one day but I just always recommend that whne people follow a diet they do their own research on top of what the trainer is saying and self educate.
On a final note I have no trouble maintaining below 9% bodyfat over a year since my last show and have added muscle every year for over 15 years now. Not too many people out there can say that. I am not saying I know more then anyone else but I am saying that I am 100% against a ketogenic diet especially one that follows this up with a massive amount of all u can eat calories. It simply is does not make sense. I have yet to come across research to support this and I do have a masters degree and had the highest avg in university (okay enough bragging from me now)
once again good luck in the show, if there is a bantamweight class u must be the favorite.
I had less than half that amount of carbs. You were reading someone elses post because I never actually put down any numbers. I am extremely passionate in this sport as well and I believe my progress over the last year and a half definitely supports that.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregdoucette
I did keto for this diet and it worked amazingly but I have only been doing it for the final 7 weeks and I am not doing a fool ass "eat 24 whole eggs a day or anything" it's clean don't worry about that and I am getting all of my nurtients for sure.
I also do plenty of my own research and just because I follow a coach doesn't mean I don't understand, ask questions and learn as I go. Nobody is perfect no matter how much you might think you know you can always know more.
Thanks for the compliments though man I do appreciate it. I just kinda got rubbed the wrong way by you the last time we met up, so it's tough for me to be real acceptive of your advice. No disrespect but I felt pretty shitty after talking to you, thats all I'll say.
Anyways on the last note, Sadly like I said in an earlier post there is no bantam weight class and I will be lumped in with guys weighing as much as 160lbs but I am not dissapointed. Plus it's great knowing I could be a bantam weight at nationals if I chose to be.
I don't like to consider myself a favorite in any case because that just sets ups dissapointment. I am going in with an open mind in hopes that my conditioning will be favored by the judges. It's really ALL I can do at this point. You Never know who will show up.
oh ok i did goof up i miss read another guys post on ur thread and thought it was u. truepitbull guy or something; so u can see how i would comment thinking 1500 grams instead of like 400.
The keto diet has been used successfully by the medical community for over 50 years to treat many health issues namely diabetes and epilepsy. Ketosis is a natural healthy state when the body is deprived of carbohydrate. It is in no way unhealthy unless you are talking ketoacidosis which is completely different. Please post research showing that the keto diet is unhealthy. Again I believe we have had this discussion before and carbs are still used on the keto diet...which in fact are utilized for training in stead of ketone bodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregdoucette
Also the "all u can eat" idea is completely incorrect. Further more whether you run a keto diet or a typical cyclical carb diet you will still get post show rebound...the idea is to adjust the diet accordingly and use it to your advantage.
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All I have to say is yes I am the one that ate 1500g of carbs. And it's not all I can eat. At first it's a cheat meal, then cheat days, then moderate amount of carbs, then higher amounts as I get closer to the condition I want to achieve.
I don't have a coach I have taught myself everything I know. I'm competing at the SWFC, an amateur event, And I don't feel that a coach is necessary at this level. Alot are in it for quick cash and the competitors who have a coach usually seem to know jack about what they are doing. Ex. How many grams of carbs are you having? "a cup of oats in the morning." they don't even know how many grams in a cup....
Competing should be a combo of science and knowledge of ones own body.
Like 2 days ago...another 1200g down. Went from 152.5 to 155.5 the next day. Metabolism was jacked once again and I bet dollars to doughnuts that when I step on the scale today I'll be down to 153 or lower. I'm 5'4" and a bit.
Can reach as high as 205 in the 'offseason' when I feel like eating what I want and enjoying food. Or maintain sub-10 if I want which I demonstrated for 3 years. But I choose not too.
I am also on a Keto diet. I start with carb cycling then eliminate carbs throughout the prep. Do I feel like shit? Yes. Who doesn't when prepping?
Sorry for the post. I'm upset as well because I'm a week out, nervous, depleted and exhausted. But to tell someone they can't have said amount of carbs or that Leto dieting is not healthy is opinion not supported by any empirical evidence. And it feels personal when it shouldn't.
Ps. Greg you're a great guy, a big inspiration and will always be a valuable asset to any board or individual. But, there are many ways to get contest ready, and BB is bot a healthy sport if taken seriously. To each their own.