Dave Palumbo Diet

that`s where I read the info I live by as well!

lol john berardi has some great tips and theories, i read that in the summer time last year. i still eat and train the way i've read by him

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Originally Posted by Ritch

And here`s the good news, and one I can almost guarantee will work... The Palumbo diet is not the only diet that works. As a matter of fact, if you`re not planning on doing a competition, it`s totally unecessary. As that`s what it`s designed to do. And if you`re not competiting, why the hell would you want to put yourself through such misery. Also if you`re natural, forget it bro! That statement has been backed up here as well.

Say you restricted all carbs from your last 3 meals in your day and they were just protein and fats, the first 3 protein and carbs, this will work wonders. If you can train in the morning, after breakfast it would be best. As you know post workout is an ideal time to jack up insulin with fast acting carbs and protein. It`s also very safe to say the next meal has a need for carbs and they won`t be stored as fat. Follow that up with the protein fat meals, you`ll be fine. Most easy way to get lean without suffering the madness of a keto diet.

If you train at night, simply have protein and fats all day, until your pre workout meal which will be protein carbs, then the post workout as I said. If there`s time for another meal it can be either protein and carbs or protein and fat, depending how easily you get lean, you`ll have to experiement to see which works best for you.

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Misery of keto? You have no clue what you are talking about. Ask anyone whose run a proper keto style diet and they will tell you it was not misery.

When it gets difficult is in the last 4-6 weeks but every diet beco
es difficult in the last 4-6 weeks.

There really isn't any misery when on the keto diet, the first week maybe, just the first depletion of carbs, after that you feel great, my energy levels are just as they were the only difference is that i'm burning fat. I don't even crave my carb up meal now.

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Originally Posted by natenator

Misery of keto? You have no clue what you are talking about. Ask anyone whose run a proper keto style diet and they will tell you it was not misery.

When it gets difficult is in the last 4-6 weeks but every diet beco
es difficult in the last 4-6 weeks.

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Hahah, here we go again. Like the diet is so difficult to follow?

Hey Ritch, guess you and I must have imagined things... or maybe our IQ level is just too low to eat chicken and almonds.

Anyway.. as much as I hate it, I'm gonna be doin the keto yet again. This time with the help of Test, Var, T3 and Clen.

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Originally Posted by kloan

Hahah, here we go again. Like the diet is so difficult to follow?

Hey Ritch, guess you and I must have imagined things... or maybe our IQ level is just too low to eat chicken and almonds.

Anyway.. as much as I hate it, I'm gonna be doin the keto yet again. This time with the help of Test, Var, T3 and Clen.

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Ritch, no but you I have zero doubts are flying low in the IQ department.

If you want to get snide with comments I will as well and will do it in a manner so as not to confuse you as I know you often misconstrue a persons 'tone' on the Internet.

For the record no one ever said the diet was difficult to follow but perhaps the diet you were following was not one that was meant for your bodyweigjt, muscle mass, etc. The difference between a cookie cutting template you find online and one that's developed for you.

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Originally Posted by kloan

Hahah, here we go again. Like the diet is so difficult to follow?

Hey Ritch, guess you and I must have imagined things... or maybe our IQ level is just too low to eat chicken and almonds.

Anyway.. as much as I hate it, I'm gonna be doin the keto yet again. This time with the help of Test, Var, T3 and Clen.

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Ritch, no but you I have zero doubts are flying low in the IQ department.

If you want to get snide with comments I will as well and will do it in a manner so as not to confuse you as I know you often misconstrue a persons 'tone' on the Internet.

For the record no one ever said the diet was difficult to follow but perhaps the diet you were following was not one that was meant for your bodyweigjt, muscle mass, etc. The difference between a cookie cutting template you find online and one that's developed for you.

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Originally Posted by natenator

Ritch, no but you I have zero doubts are flying low in the IQ department.

If you want to get snide with comments I will as well and will do it in a manner so as not to confuse you as I know you often misconstrue a persons 'tone' on the Internet.

For the record no one ever said the diet was difficult to follow but perhaps the diet you were following was not one that was meant for your bodyweigjt, muscle mass, etc. The difference between a cookie cutting template you find online and one that's developed for you.

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You could be right. If I had professional guidance with the diet and had it tailored more for me, maybe I would might have had better results from it. It does seem though that a lot of people follow the 'cookie cutter' diet and get good results from it.

I think Ritch actually achieved results with his run on the keto, but he and I both experienced similar effects as far as feeling like crap on the diet.

How or what did either of us do wrong that we would feel like crap instead of feel great on the diet, as you seem to imply is only achieved by people who "know what they're talking about"?

Btw, my snide tone is coming from the fact that you have now told two people in this thread they don't know what they're talking about. Who's the one being an ass?

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Originally Posted by kloan

You could be right. If I had professional guidance with the diet and had it tailored more for me, maybe I would might have had better results from it. It does seem though that a lot of people follow the 'cookie cutter' diet and get good results from it.

I think Ritch actually achieved results with his run on the keto, but he and I both experienced similar effects as far as feeling like crap on the diet.

How or what did either of us do wrong that we would feel like crap instead of feel great on the diet, as you seem to imply is only achieved by people who "know what they're talking about"?

Btw, my snide tone is coming from the fact that you have now told two people in this thread they don't know what they're talking about. Who's the one being an ass?

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I'm only an ass to ignorant comments. Warlock suggesting a keto diet leads to muscle loss more inherently than other types of diets was ignorant as he clearly has not read much about keto diets or the mechanisms of how they work in the body.

And while I agree there will be some who may feel miserable on a keto diet the truth as far as I've researched is those are fee and far between and this also included my own personal experience.

I can't say what you may have done or not done while on the diet. Maybe your fats were too low? Maybe you were training too long? Maybe you weren't getting enough rest? Too many variables for me to say but the only real misery I experienced on my diet was frequent inability to take a shit lol

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Originally Posted by natenator

I'm only an ass to ignorant comments. Warlock suggesting a keto diet leads to muscle loss more inherently than other types of diets was ignorant as he clearly has not read much about keto diets or the mechanisms of how they work in the body.

And while I agree there will be some who may feel miserable on a keto diet the truth as far as I've researched is those are fee and far between and this also included my own personal experience.

I can't say what you may have done or not done while on the diet. Maybe your fats were too low? Maybe you were training too long? Maybe you weren't getting enough rest? Too many variables for me to say but the only real misery I experienced on my diet was frequent inability to take a shit lol

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Dude, warlock only said that because InPursuitofPerfection is boxing and asked if the keto diet would cause muscle loss because of the high intensity training and lack of glycogen.

Far as feeling like crap on the diet, you're right, too many variables to know for sure. Which is why I'm considering trying it again to see if I can do it without feeling like crap. Perhaps with the added help from the other stuff, things might feel a bit better. That is if I can get my sleep schedule fixed.