Summer Cycle

[smukker]

Ok now i know i gotta keep my goals realistic, but how does this sound for putting on some solid clean gains this summer?

Wk 1-12 Test Prop 150mg EOD
Wk 1-10 Npp 100mg EOD
Wk 4-10 Tren Ace 75mg EOD
Wk 3-12 HCG 300iu E3D

I have Nolva, and arimidex on hand, but would running some arimidex keep some of the bload down? or would the tren do that?

I have actuallty ran tren ace in the past at the end of my first cycle, for 6 weeks and never noticed much for sides besides sweating all day long, and of course the aggresion, and that was at 100mg EOD, so needless to say not affraid of it.

[Big D]

I wouldnt mix npp with tren. use one or the other.

then your cycle should be good to go,

you'll notice if you want good clean gains. that comes from your food intake and not the drugs ;)

[smukker]

Does NPP affect endurance like tren does??

[Skyblob]

dostinex or caber if you take both with b6 and maybe t3

[smukker]

Any experiences with S.A Prop or NPP??

[Kronis]

I like it. My next run is gonna be 100mg EOD prop/npp and 20-40 dbol ED.

[smukker]

What would one expect off npp/prop?? lean mass or wet mass?

[Kronis]

^^ depends on diet.

Standard thinking is that prop/npp causes less bloat than the longer esters but I don't understand why, esters shouldn't have any effect on water retention.

[smukker]

while on tren my diet didnt change from normal, if anything i think i actually ate less clean and i have never been soo lean. So just wondering if i could expect the same on NPP or is tren more of a one of a kind thing.

[Big D]

its always about your diet, you can get really lean just eating right an not using any drugs.

if your not competing just do an all test cycle , thats all you need.


to many people rely on the gear instead of doing it the right way. which is sticking to a good meal plan and working out consistently.

[Skyblob]

Test tren adex ... thats what im doing.. you can do everything you want with this .. add lean mass n maybe loose some fat or you can just cut! Im on keto and keeping my muscles but im fking tired lol.. but its awesome :)

[Skyblob]

but imo ... if you want to put gains, i would wait this winter and run a test deca cycle , and have a good lean diet! Now just cut , imo ! you cant do both...

[dinosaur]

its always about your diet, you can get really lean just eating right an not using any drugs.

if your not competing just do an all test cycle , thats all you need.


to many people rely on the gear instead of doing it the right way. which is sticking to a good meal plan and working out consistently.

amen brotha, I had to learn this the hard way