Accutane

[slick rick]

Just looking for some feedback on * or other UG Accutane. How long does it take to start noticing results? I am comtemplating starting off at a very low dose, possibly EOD and see how it works.

[purelife]

I'm on some accutane it's working wonders 40mg ed

[greekgod]

Why not just get pharm grade from your doctor? My extended insurance completely paid for mine!

[slick rick]

Why not just get pharm grade from your doctor? My extended insurance completely paid for mine!

I already have a script for Minocycline , but thats not doing the trick any more. my thought was alternate between the minocyline and accutane every other day. i am a bit hesitant to go full out on the tane as it is known to be harsh on the liver....plus i enjoy the sun and the beach too much in the summer to be on a full dose of accutane.

[tiramisu]

I'm fairly sure that you should NOT mix the moncycline or any of the tetracycline class of drugs with with accutane (No Vitamin A or Retinoids).

You can however use Erythromycin or if you had it sitting around Cephalexin like I do and had to wait for your Erythromycin to arrive.

Oddly enough Erythromycin is available for your tropical fish but it's certainly cheaper and healthier to get a prescription from your doctor. Especially if you have a drug plan.

I have just started isotretinoin at a daily dose of 20 mg for the first week and will increase the dose depending on how I feel about the side effects to about. Common dosages are between .5 and 1 mg per kg of body weight per day. There are a few studies that find low dose treatments (40 mg/day ) to be effective.

What I'm noticing after 3 days at 20mg is that I seem to have more sebum (whiteheads) being produced in some areas (chest/back) and minor drying in others (arms). I will be upping the dosage to 40mg in the second week and 60mg in the third week and see how it goes.

I have read that is fairly common to have a significant flare up in the first month but am hoping the my predosing for 14 days with Cephlaxin and benzyl peroxide has kicked the shit out of that damn pepperoni bacteria (propioni) so that the flare up is minimized. I'm also hoping that easing into the dosage will make the flare up less dramatic if it can't be avoided.

[tiramisu]

You may believe that it is the product of being smart but for some of us genetics just predisposes us to acne. It has nothing to do with hygiene or IQ. I have been through benzoyl peroxide (up to 20%), topical retin-a, salycilic acid, tetracycline and erythromycin over the years. The benzoyl peroxide was always the most immediately effective but only about 30-40% and the drying often causes flare ups of its own accord.

The salicylic helps the black/white heads by helping to slough off the skin but it also irritating and does nothing for pimples.

Topical vitamin A never did a thing for me truthfully.

Tetracyline/Erythromycin were debatable as to whether they were effective. They seemed effective at first but after a few months the seemed to lose the battle against the acne bacteria.

The kflex is surprisingly effective. It may simply be that I have never done anything like cephlaxin and the p. acne bacteria have no immunity whatsover. As I said earlier I will be switching over to Erythromycin shortly as I pretty sure that despite its effectiveness kflex is overkill for the job at hand.

My brother did a full dose accutane treatment as a teen and it dried him out far more and for far longer than anyone would want. His cystic acne was definitely scarring him up bad though so it MAY have been the right decision. I thought it was a bad idea at the time. Mine was bad but treatable.

At this point I've been through the full gamut of treatments my dermatologist prescribed me through 10 years of nasty acne and sadly they aren't cutting the mustard against hormonally based acne caused by exogenous hormones.

So IMHO ...

If you haven't tried benzoyl peroxide, salicylic acid, topical vitamin-a, erythromycin, tetracycline (or derivatives) first you probably shouldn't be jumping on the tane wagon quite yet. It can, for some guys (women have more issues to deal with) be a fairly bad experience.... depression, scarring, significant flareups and a few others.... google is your friend.

[force]

that being said if you arent genetically dispositioned to having bad acne and are only having issues due to the gear try running 10-20mg EOD to start. Tane is ALOT stronger than most guys think...you dont need a clinical dose to combat AAS related sides, this has been proven to be effective with several of my friends (actually they all used*). at worst if the low dose isnt working up it, but better to use the lowest dose you can get away with.

my .02

F.

[wolverine]

Accutane is awful stuff, try to stay away from it, it reeks havoc on your whole body. Have you always been predisposed to acne as a youth??

[slick rick]

Accutane is just straight up bad for you Rich, though i'm sure you know that.

Ever try benzol peroxide? When I first started out way back when i'd get some big ol pimples, and my doc hooked me up with some of this stuff and it helped out a lot. Luckily my skin has been calm for many years, the product of Fish oil, smart cycling, and time off.


yeah i have tried benzol peroxide, ACV, tried different Salcydic soaps, currently hitting the tanning bed a few times a week ( which has actually made the biggest difference) and as mentioned on Minocycline now. Frustrating as all **** as i'm sure you can relate when you can't seem to get a grip on it. But as the saying goes don't do the crime if you can't do the time. I will only be using the tane as a last resort thing.

[slick rick]

Accutane is awful stuff, try to stay away from it, it reeks havoc on your whole body. Have you always been predisposed to acne as a youth??


No i didn't have acne problems until i started dabbling with gear. I actually never really had big problems on cycle until this one. Usually I get hit pretty bad on PCT which blows. I would probably abort the cycle now because of the acne if i didn't know it would get 10 times worse on PCT, and i'm not ready to deal with that until August, after holidays ect. Are you speaking from personal experience?

[slick rick]

You may believe that it is the product of being smart but for some of us genetics just predisposes us to acne. It has nothing to do with hygiene or IQ. I have been through benzoyl peroxide (up to 20%), topical retin-a, salycilic acid, tetracycline and erythromycin over the years. The benzoyl peroxide was always the most immediately effective but only about 30-40% and the drying often causes flare ups of its own accord.

The salicylic helps the black/white heads by helping to slough off the skin but it also irritating and does nothing for pimples.

Topical vitamin A never did a thing for me truthfully.

Tetracyline/Erythromycin were debatable as to whether they were effective. They seemed effective at first but after a few months the seemed to lose the battle against the acne bacteria.



The kflex is surprisingly effective. It may simply be that I have never done anything like cephlaxin and the p. acne bacteria have no immunity whatsover. As I said earlier I will be switching over to Erythromycin shortly as I pretty sure that despite its effectiveness kflex is overkill for the job at hand.

My brother did a full dose accutane treatment as a teen and it dried him out far more and for far longer than anyone would want. His cystic acne was definitely scarring him up bad though so it MAY have been the right decision. I thought it was a bad idea at the time. Mine was bad but treatable.

At this point I've been through the full gamut of treatments my dermatologist prescribed me through 10 years of nasty acne and sadly they aren't cutting the mustard against hormonally based acne caused by exogenous hormones.

So IMHO ...

If you haven't tried benzoyl peroxide, salicylic acid, topical vitamin-a, erythromycin, tetracycline (or derivatives) first you probably shouldn't be jumping on the tane wagon quite yet. It can, for some guys (women have more issues to deal with) be a fairly bad experience.... depression, scarring, significant flareups and a few others.... google is your friend.


Thx for your response teramisu.. very informative.

[wolverine]

No i didn't have acne problems until i started dabbling with gear. I actually never really had big problems on cycle until this one. Usually I get hit pretty bad on PCT which blows. I would probably abort the cycle now because of the acne if i didn't know it would get 10 times worse on PCT, and i'm not ready to deal with that until August, after holidays ect. Are you speaking from personal experience?

No Rick, I never used it, but only because my best friend did and it was terrible on him, I was lucky and got away with tetracycaline and the 20 % cream, I was pretty young as well.

[oster]

Yeah I heard that about tanning booths. Actually, my sister who has had psorasis since she was a baby, was told to do this as well by a dermatologist. She finds it helps with her flare ups.

I would reccomend a stand up tanning booth if possible, I used to use the lay down ones and it didnt seem to heelp at all, I would sweat in the bed and pores would just get more clogged.

[slick rick]

I have decided to not go the accutane route. I went to the doc's and asked him to up the dosage of my minocycline script, which he did. Day 3 of 200mg/day and I have noticed a slight difference already. Thanks again for the opinions and advice from those that responded.

[juice555]

I would reccomend a stand up tanning booth if possible, I used to use the lay down ones and it didnt seem to heelp at all, I would sweat in the bed and pores would just get more clogged.


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