Anavar vs. Turinabol

[MMASTAR]

My goal is to maintain current body weight but harden up a bit. I hear lots about people using anavar but not much about turinabol. Has anyone ever run either alone? Any thoughts here would be appreciated. Was thinking 40mg ED for either on there own or maybe a combination of both?

[wmk]

I would not do either by themselves. Burn victims and men with HIV are given 40-60mg of var a day and that just helps with rebuilding tissue. I love a var and test cycle. Some people who use t-bol report horrible back pumps, sore kidneys that get so bad it becomes hard to just function with your daily life. I was one of those people and t-bol is just too hard on my kidneys. Running 80mg of var never gave me any bad sides. Personally, I would not run either alone. Add some test, 250 or even better 500mg/ week.

[huma324]

I agree. Don't run either on it's own. T bol can be problematic, but anavar rarely is. Just run a small amount of test with it.

Cheers

[Timbo89]

I like var, so id pick it over tbol. Although like the two previous posters said, either one by itself isnt gonna be a great cycle.

[AnabolicState]

Since you want to just harden up try 40-60mg/day of var, and throw in 50mg/day of proviron. The var and proviron will harden you up plus the proviron will provide the androgen content to keep you feeling good. This cycle would provide little to no estrogen and could comfortably be run up to twelve weeks.

[MMASTAR]

anyone willing to second that?

[L3]

i like anabolicstate's thinking, 12 weeks a little too long IMO, but if you have liver protectants shouldnt be an issue. get bloodwork done before and after, look after your cholesterol/ALT/AST.
dont skip on the PCT if you wanna keep your gains!!!!!

[nitrous]

if you arent looking to put on size i think anavar would definitely be the way to go...

i ran anavar alone and it worked great for me.. currently on test and about to add in tbol so i'm gonna see how that goes

[Blitz-Test]

Tbol has my vote for sure... Used both, Tbol definately changed my apperance moreso than var.... Tbol increased strength and pumps like nothing else...

Loved it..

[cdnsoldier]

Anavar all the way. All the way.

I have run anavar on it's own and have had impressive results.

Be careful of guys who say 'don't run var on it's own". Most have never tried it on there own.

Most guys who have like the results. If you need to "harden up" it will do that. If you eat right (angus beef baby) you will put on weight.

And those studies- They gave anavar to sedentary healthy men on 12 week cycles and they gained 4 lbs. Why wouldn't an active guy gain?

There are lietrally 100's of Anavar stuides on healthy inacive men along with sickly people. Look them up. The results are always impressive.

[tiny1]

i personally love var only cycles. Feel awesome, hard, and confident. and coming off isnt so hard on my body...

[theboss]

any orals kill me with heartburn....not looking forward to winny tabs next month.

[tex]

never ran t-bol but i've run var twice......var gets me strong and feeling good.......the back pumps lately have been hard to handle cuz i've been doing a lot of 1rm and 3rm lately but I am hitting pr's everytime i go into the gym.....minimum 40mg and I would go up to 100mg for best results......

[cdnsoldier]

i personally love var only cycles. Feel awesome, hard, and confident. and coming off isnt so hard on my body...


Oh that's another thing about anavar and this will be very controversal I think- I truley believe Anavar is one of the most "euphoric" of the steroids. Even more so than Test.


When I do Var I feel very confident. Almost 'too confident' if you catch me. It just makes you feel awesome. You want to work out, your energy increases after a week, you want to work your muscles dry. It could be placebo but I don't get this 'drive" with anything else including test.*

There's magic in that Var I tell you. I am being serious here too.


* Presuming you are using real Anavar

[cdnsoldier]

any orals kill me with heartburn....not looking forward to winny tabs next month.




Get a healthy supply of the new red label rolaids. The "all in one" brand. It's been out three months or so. Works wonders for me. I only find it at Shoppers.

[L3]

^^^ yep i cought myself staring down some big black mofos while on the var.....

[cdnsoldier]

^^^ yep i cought myself staring down some big black mofos while on the var.....

LMFAO. Yeah try Anavar and Modafinil and then we talk.

[theboss]

Get a healthy supply of the new red label rolaids. The "all in one" brand. It's been out three months or so. Works wonders for me. I only find it at Shoppers.

i get Ranitidine tabs from costco...they work well when it comes.....i usually stick with inj.

[phatkid77]

I'm on HRT, but just started to try var, 40mg and I'm 230lbs...and its gr8!..veins increased, shoulder pump and roundness at the gym was mesmerizing

[MMASTAR]

Thanks all.. great input..how long did u guys run it for?? its my first cycle i was thinking 7 weeks at 40mg ED

[cdnsoldier]

Thanks all.. great input..how long did u guys run it for?? its my first cycle i was thinking 7 weeks at 40mg ED


When I did Var only:

8 weeks, 50mg ED
3 weeks PCT- Nolva


Of course tehre are tons of variations and some say PCT isn't necessary but I say 3 weeks can't hurt.

[force]

* Presuming you are using real Anavar

^ and this is the dilemma ^ Not to knock our CAN UG labs out there (god knows Ive used enough of them lol) but I have a hard time trusting most var tabs to be legit. and no I havent tested the waters on this..just personal opinion. Ive always been skeptical of var and primo.

but I am using t-bol right now :)

F.

[cdnsoldier]

^ and this is the dilemma ^ Not to knock our CAN UG labs out there (god knows Ive used enough of them lol) but I have a hard time trusting most var tabs to be legit. and no I havent tested the waters on this..just personal opinion. Ive always been skeptical of var and primo.

but I am using t-bol right now :)

F.

Price is usually the first indication. Var is usually pricey due to various reasons. If it's too cheap to be true it probably isn't var.

For example- production cost for tren are 4x that of dbol. Production cost of var are 5x that of dbol. And I'm talking at the factory level.

[tex]

should be easy to tell the difference......var should make you feel good.....winny will trash your joints.........

[inxs4u]

I did 40 mg /day of t for 8 weeks nice results..... This time round going with Anavar to compare.

[novicebuilder]

Oh that's another thing about anavar and this will be very controversal I think- I truley believe Anavar is one of the most "euphoric" of the steroids. Even more so than Test.


When I do Var I feel very confident. Almost 'too confident' if you catch me. It just makes you feel awesome. You want to work out, your energy increases after a week, you want to work your muscles dry. It could be placebo but I don't get this 'drive" with anything else including test.*

There's magic in that Var I tell you. I am being serious here too.


* Presuming you are using real Anavar

im with you on this one! i am in my 4th week of only var @ 80mg/day and i am loving it and yeah, i feel GREAT! i cant wait for my next workout...:a+