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buildinthaskinnys
16-01-2009, 11:00 PM
What is the most recognized training certification in canada and where can I find information about taking it? any help is greatly appreciated

onamission
16-01-2009, 11:15 PM
if you're talking about personal training certificate, the one I usually hear the most about is Can-Fit-Pro.
They have a website... www.canfitpro.com

buildinthaskinnys
16-01-2009, 11:38 PM
thanks maybe I should have been more specific in the header

ubcpower
17-01-2009, 04:06 PM
Acsm

Ritch
17-01-2009, 05:20 PM
Can fit pro is garbage. Just like the ace test. But it does answer the question of most recognized certification.

onamission
17-01-2009, 05:32 PM
it may also depend on which province you are from. I did a bit of research a few weeks ago, because I am thinking of becoming certified as well.
It seems that BC and Alberta each have an organization that offers certification.
I couldn't really find one for Ontario that offered as many workshop/examination dates and locations as Can-fit-pro. Some organizations also require that you have an educational background pertaining to health and training or similar.

ubcpower...ACSM is american isn't it? Do they offer cert. to canadians?...i'm interested in this as well.

physique
17-01-2009, 07:06 PM
the best hands down is one you actually go to university/college for. not these mickey mouse companies that offer you a certificate in a weekend or a month. takes years to properly learn what one needs to learn! and even then those people dont know it all either.

dont waste your money, just tell people u are a bodybuilder. you will know more about training and nutrition then any idiot trainer under canfit pro, bcaar, asm, or the rest of the fly by night companies.

warlock
17-01-2009, 07:10 PM
The cream of the crop is a CSCS from NSCA, internationaly recognised, bla, bla, bla.

If you just need a piece of paper to work go for CANFITPRO, it is crap but does the trick

warlock
17-01-2009, 07:15 PM
the best hands down is one you actually go to university/college for. not these mickey mouse companies that offer you a certificate in a weekend or a month. takes years to properly learn what one needs to learn! and even then those people dont know it all either.

dont waste your money, just tell people u are a bodybuilder. you will know more about training and nutrition then any idiot trainer under canfit pro, bcaar, asm, or the rest of the fly by night companies.

That can be helpfull but I had a manager that didn't know who jay culler was and my last one had never heard of Paul Chek

oharad
17-01-2009, 07:33 PM
this is real simple

most recognized = Can fit
most bogus = can fit

ones worth your time ASCM or NSCA. Preference going to NSCA CSCS certification. Bear in mind if you did not go to college or university for a related program you can not do the CSCS. However NSCA still offers a CPT to everyone else.

natenator
17-01-2009, 08:06 PM
the problem with these certifications is to become a trainer at most facilities you need to have one or more.

Laura Binetti, Chad Nichols, Hany Rambod, Scott Abell, Chris Aceto, Dave Palmumbo... while some of these people do hold degrees their true education comes from practical experience in their craft. Theoritical knowledge is no substitute for practical experience.

buildinthaskinnys
18-01-2009, 03:18 AM
I do agree that just because you are certified it doesnt mean you know anything about training, but on the other hand whether courses are bs or not, I dont think (but I could be wrong) any club would hire anyone that isnt certified.

On the same note having a certification will give me a little more credibility to the average joe and jane that have absolutley no idea what they are doing.

As it is, I am currently out of work, and I am seriously considering taking this up as a job, part time at least, if not full time. So I am looking into many options, the most finest and cheapest options.

oharad
18-01-2009, 08:47 AM
the problem with these certifications is to become a trainer at most facilities you need to have one or more.

Laura Binetti, Chad Nichols, Hany Rambod, Scott Abell, Chris Aceto, Dave Palmumbo... while some of these people do hold degrees their true education comes from practical experience in their craft. Theoritical knowledge is no substitute for practical experience.

Although I agree with this you have to realize that most clubs will not hire you without a certification simply because there could be liability issues with the club insurance should you injure a client

Ritch
18-01-2009, 02:58 PM
To anyone wants to be a trainer, you should just ask yourself one question: Am I a good salesperson?

O-Train
18-01-2009, 08:42 PM
To anyone wants to be a trainer, you should just ask yourself one question: Am I a good salesperson?

That and do you you want to work with the type of people who normally hire personal trainers.

Hatebreed
18-01-2009, 11:36 PM
College is the pro way to go, you will learn things much more in depth throughout several surrounding fields, unless you star in one of the girls gone wild videos. Although being a good salesperson means more than anything. Making people think theyre making progress is much more important than actual progress.

Ritch
18-01-2009, 11:56 PM
That and do you you want to work with the type of people who normally hire personal trainers.

I did and ****in hated it. It`s a tough business and going from client back to back when you only have 1 hour is no easy task. People are always late, so you do the warm up then there`s only like 40-45 minutes left to get them through a work out. Some like to chit chat wasting more of the little time you have and people always interupt you and your client expecting you to show them stuff. And teaching new movements takes alot ot time so they don`t really train much on some days. And since most only come 2 times a week everything is usually forgotten. Now I understand why most trainers jut put their clients on machines.

LucL
19-01-2009, 05:28 PM
I did and ****in hated it. It`s a tough business and going from client back to back when you only have 1 hour is no easy task. People are always late, so you do the warm up then there`s only like 40-45 minutes left to get them through a work out. Some like to chit chat wasting more of the little time you have and people always interupt you and your client expecting you to show them stuff. And teaching new movements takes alot ot time so they don`t really train much on some days. And since most only come 2 times a week everything is usually forgotten. Now I understand why most trainers jut put their clients on machines.
This essentially sums up my experience as well. It's tough to get the results out of people who you know have it in them. 90% of the battle it seems is developing attitude. Showing people that yes, they can be dedicated, they can work hard, they can push themselves further then they've ever pushed before, etc.

A certification that hasn't been mentioned that is strictly Canadian is CSEP. They're trying to set standards in the fitness industry and get rid of stuff like Can Fit Pro. Which is great, but like everyone has pointed out, it still doesn't guarantee a quality trainer. It's just something to help get your foot in the door.

Born2Juice4Ever
19-01-2009, 05:53 PM
The cream of the crop is a CSCS from NSCA, internationaly recognised, bla, bla, bla.

If you just need a piece of paper to work go for CANFITPRO, it is crap but does the trick


Very good reply.


And I also like Physiques.
CanFitpro? A weekend course? CanFitPro is a quick basic light guidline.

the women at the Montreal CanFitPro testing are VERY hot, that's for sure.

B2J

#8
19-01-2009, 06:28 PM
Physique said it best. If you are considering this as potential income, your best bet is to have a background that is taken seriously. A university degree as well as practical experience and a certification will allow you opportunities far beyond that of Can-fit-pro. There are thousands of professional sports teams, clinics, physio, training etc. options for those who have a credible degree. If you already have a background and knowledge that can be applied practically you are light years ahead of most applicants. You get out what you put in.

warlock
19-01-2009, 08:22 PM
I did and ****in hated it. It`s a tough business and going from client back to back when you only have 1 hour is no easy task. People are always late, so you do the warm up then there`s only like 40-45 minutes left to get them through a work out. Some like to chit chat wasting more of the little time you have and people always interupt you and your client expecting you to show them stuff. And teaching new movements takes alot ot time so they don`t really train much on some days. And since most only come 2 times a week everything is usually forgotten. Now I understand why most trainers jut put their clients on machines.

In a average a trainer lasts 2 years in the profession.

If you wanna keep your sanity you have to learn to be as dedicated as your client.

My trick is quite simple: at the end of the 1st meeting I ask them to do a log.

The level of detail in that log will show me the level of commitment of the client, them I pair my level of commitment to the one showed to the client.
If they are paying that type of money and want to hang out so be it!

But I am brutally honest with them and remind that the positive attitude and the consistent effort will do it for them. Whatever they do consistently is what they will get in return.

And learn to "leave your problems at the office".

As in any other profession where the human factor is determining for success sometimes it is gratifying, sometimes it is less than happy!

buildinthaskinnys
20-01-2009, 12:58 AM
Ok, my seeminglessly easy question just went out of control, Ok let me rephrase this to try and narrow this down, What is the most well known and Credible personal trainers certificate in canada? this CSEP looks pretty good, I am researching this right now.

Ritch
20-01-2009, 01:29 PM
^^^ LOL! That happens on almost any thread. To answer your question I`d say can fit pro.

Zeron
01-02-2009, 02:33 AM
ACE or ISSA if you want the best I have both...Can-fit-pro's book to become a P/T is 300+ pages ISSA is 1900+ pages...Or ACE, has 3 levels every course out line per level 1000 pages plus....WE P/T I included call Can- Fit- Pro...WEEKEND WARRIORS...Sorry to say it does not matter what province your in. If you take that course just put paint on your face.....THAT'S HOW THE INDUSTRY WILL LOOK AT YOU...(Sorry just trying to give you a right start) I've been a cert P/T for a long time just not a warrior.Plus over the years you develop your own style, you will learn quick that no two people are built alike, you have to adapt plus people with injuries+ on medications that might make them dizzy then I would have them get a DR. note that it's OK to train this person, or it's your ass when you get hit with a law suit!!!!
You build you own style over the years out of the box exercises...Now I train mostly car accident victims right from Phyiso...I have 14yrs in this game and I learn every Day....GOOD LUCK

P.s. Why don't you call some club's ask them out of the three they would prefer????


Z....................




Z........................

buildinthaskinnys
01-02-2009, 04:00 PM
I did go to the Ymca zeron, they said they would recognize can-fit-pro (first laughing then answering) , but the manager said they prefered a university grad.

Zeron
01-02-2009, 08:41 PM
I did go to the Ymca zeron, they said they would recognize can-fit-pro (first laughing then answering) , but the manager said they prefered a university grad.

Ya I figured sorry for that, many local collages have a 2yr P/T course very good..They did not offer that when I started..I had to go to University for my Kenisiology. First then after that I went for ISSA P/T I also have my SSIS with them after that ACE was a piece of cake..OK all tell you the problem with Can-Fit-Pro hun, for a good 4/5 years and it's still happening that cert I said it's a warrior's cert, this is the reason there were so many injury's it hurt your (P/T) industry so much all the clubs decided not to take it seriously!! If you know the industry the big cash comes from what the P/T's due we have to show results and re sign them it's all about $$$ and LAW SUITS....

P.s. Pm me any time all be happy to help, what province are you in?

Z.................

buildinthaskinnys
01-02-2009, 08:48 PM
Thanks Z! Im in alberta and you?

Direwolf
21-03-2009, 02:06 PM
Poliquin certification: PICP.

Scaffer
22-04-2009, 04:36 PM
can-fit is quick,the theory wasnt easy for me cause im a poor studier but its quick for those of you with the smart.

im actually thinking of going to college or university,anything that offer an higher,more specialized ,toward training.

oilerlover
06-06-2010, 03:12 AM
That can be helpfull but I had a manager that didn't know who jay culler was and my last one had never heard of Paul Chek
Do you mean Jay Cutler?