ZeOne's Melanotan II Experiment

[ZeOne]

I finally decided to give MT-II a try and see how my body will react to it.

I am looking mainly for the tanning aspect, but I will also be reporting on the libido enhancing effects as well.

My skin type is 4. I tan fairly easily but I have to expose myself to UVs for a long time, and I hate these tanning beds. So hopefully with the MT-II I can reduce by a lot my UV exposure, I am hoping to reduce it to 5 minutes a week of intense exposure.

For those who don't know what Melanotan II peptide is, here is a quick blurb taken from a random website:





"Melanotan II has tanning and aphrodisiac properties.

Melanotan II is an analog, or a peptide hormone known as alpha-melanocyte stimulating hormone (α-MSH) that tends to induce skin tanning. Melanotan II has the added effect of increasing libido, and doesn’t just tan the skin.

Administering this hormone to the body directly is probably an effective method to cause “sunless tanning” or chemically induced tanning. There are no obvious toxic effects of Melanotan II and, in fact, because skin cancer is a major health concern, it may actually be able to combat it to a degree. This is because Melanotan II stimulates the body's natural tanning mechanism (Melanin) to create a tan without needing the stimulus of direct sunlight. This can reduce the for skin damage as a result of exposure to the Sun’s rays, that can eventually lead to skin cancer. Not only has Melanotan II would therefore seem to be a safe way to effectively tan without being exposed to the Sun.

In addition, Melanotan II also has demonstrated aphrodisiac properties. It would seem that this compound, when administered, is transformed into a metabolite which has potent aphrodisiac and anti- erectile dysfunction properties.

Melanotan is popular with athletes and fitness enthusiasts who wish to have the look of a tanned body, but would rather not expose themselves to the potentially harmful rays of the Sun."





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[ZeOne]

So today I placed the order for 50mg of Chinese MT-II. Apparently the lab is very good, and a number of people are reporting good results from that specific lab.

I am expecting the MT-II by end of next week.

[gsxr750]

Very interested appreciate the log...

[Kiem]

The 50mg of Chinese MT-II was exactly what I ordered from a great lab down south. We probably got it from the same place I believe. They should be in yellow tops.

[kloan]

Hey man, you might want to go to an optometrist and have an eye exam before you start.

I just went in to get an updated prescription for glasses, and the doc found a small nevus in my left eye. Turns out using Melanotan can cause these to get bigger, which might affect eyesight.

Someone on the Melanotan forum posted this, http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1183897770/0 and they didn't have any previous eye problems before using the product. I'm not so sure it can cause one to develop if nothing existed prior to the use, but if using it can cause existing freckles/moles to get darker and/or bigger... having one in the eye would certainly be cause to rethink using it. Unfortunately, that's dissuaded me from using it altogether now.. had to cancel my order.

[ZeOne]

The 50mg of Chinese MT-II was exactly what I ordered from a great lab down south. We probably got it from the same place I believe. They should be in yellow tops.

Yep, yellow tops ;)

5 x 10mg

What were your results like Kiem?



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[ZeOne]

Hey man, you might want to go to an optometrist and have an eye exam before you start.

I just went in to get an updated prescription for glasses, and the doc found a small nevus in my left eye. Turns out using Melanotan can cause these to get bigger, which might affect eyesight.

Someone on the Melanotan forum posted this, http://melanotan.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1183897770/0 and they didn't have any previous eye problems before using the product. I'm not so sure it can cause one to develop if nothing existed prior to the use, but if using it can cause existing freckles/moles to get darker and/or bigger... having one in the eye would certainly be cause to rethink using it. Unfortunately, that's dissuaded me from using it altogether now.. had to cancel my order.

Thanks for the warning kloan. I have been to the optometrist last summer and all was OK beside my slight myopia.

[kloan]

Thanks for the warning kloan. I have been to the optometrist last summer and all was OK beside my slight myopia.
Ah, that's good. I'm bummed I can't do it...

[BAM]

I heard someone on here say it mII caused them to get a bunch of dark freckles in random places. Would kinds suck to get big dark freckles on your face.

(shrug)

[ZeOne]

I heard someone on here say it mII caused them to get a bunch of dark freckles in random places. Would kinds suck to get big dark freckles on your face.

(shrug)

True, but the new freckles were gone at cessation, and apparently this is more common with T1 and T2 skins.

[Kiem]

Yep, yellow tops ;)

5 x 10mg

What were your results like Kiem?



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Started off with 1mg the first night, then .5mg for 2nights, and then .25mg for 1 1/2 weeks longer. Results were great....My friends started to call me darkness. Then everyone at the gym started to stare too. Never finished the 10mg bottle.

The place you ordered from is great. Mine got seized the first time and he resent and even called up customs.
Enjoy the random 24/7 erections Zeone.

[Rhinobolt10]

Good luck man, I'm looking forward to this log

[shithead]

Tell us how it goes bro. I wanna be called "darkness".

[ergie]

True, but the new freckles were gone at cessation, and apparently this is more common with T1 and T2 skins.

No, it happened to me and they did not go away.

[ZeOne]

No, it happened to me and they did not go away.

Ouch! I read numerous reports, in fact all of them reported the moles and freckles disappeared after they stopped the injections.

Thanks for chiming in Fergie. I read your journal as well, and I know it was not a pleasant experience in your case.

[shithead]

No, it happened to me and they did not go away.

Ya that big mole on your penis wont go away. lol

Look on the bright side, it adds extra size. Now you slay the pussy.

[ergie]

Yup it adds size and the gf likes it cuz the hairs that grow out of it tickle her.

[ergie]

Ouch! I read numerous reports, in fact all of them reported the moles and freckles disappeared after they stopped the injections.

Thanks for chiming in Fergie. I read your journal as well, and I know it was not a pleasant experience in your case.

They did fade but are all still there, a few on my face and alot on my back. I used a fairly low dose as well, different people respond differently though so I look forward to reading your journal.

[shithead]

They did fade but are all still there, a few on my face and alot on my back. I used a fairly low dose as well, different people respond differently though so I look forward to reading your journal.

Do you have reddish hair?

[ergie]

Do you have reddish hair?

No red hair and I'm not an albino

[ZeOne]

All right, received the MT-II today. The vials went into the fridge.

Will be starting MT-II tomorrow.

[Sean Summers]

I used it and loved the stuff.
SS

[nisser]

Good stuff; thanks for sharing with us. I've been wanting to use this but the freckle issue still bothers me.

[gsxr750]

Looking forward to your updates!

[ZeOne]

I didn't start yesterday because I still didn't buy the slin pins.

I will be going out to the pharmacy and buying a BD Insulin Syringes and Ultrafine pins, a box of a 100.

I hope they will not make a big deal out of it at the store. Sometimes they make a bid deal out of injectable B12, depending on who is working there.

[ZeOne]

OK, so I bought the syringes.

First injection in a few hours.

On a side note, the girl at the pharmacy that sold me the needles was hitting on me. She wanted to "touch my muscles" to see what gauge and length of needle she has to recommend. So I let her feel my abs and bought 4 vials of B12 at the same time :D

[bigdaddydrew123]

OK, so I bought the syringes.

First injection in a few hours.

On a side note, the girl at the pharmacy that sold me the needles was hitting on me. She wanted to "touch my muscles" to see what gauge and length of needle she has to recommend. So I let her feel my abs and bought 4 vials of B12 at the same time :Dget ready to feel nauseus for a few minutes, its short lived though

[ZeOne]

get ready to feel nauseus for a few minutes, its short lived though

Really? I wasn't expecting the sides after the very first injection.

I have a Halloween party tonight. Should I inject tomorrow instead? I don't want to be disguised as the Hulk and have a big erection while vomiting in the punch.




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[kloan]

lol.... no, guess not eh? :D

[ZeOne]

lol.... no, guess not eh? :D

LOL,

Let's wait for tomorrow to inject then ;)

[ZeOne]

All right.

So I reconstituted a 10mg vial with 1CC (1ml). Is that the concentration you guys suggest?

That is supposed to give me a 1mg per 10 units.

So I just injected 2.5 units because I want to start off with 0.25g

I am having a weird vacuuming issue where the insulin needles isn't drawing the MT-2 with strong enough suction, so there is a lot of air before a 2.5 units is filled.

But 2.5 units is so tiny. It's like a droplet. Is my math correct?

[Sean Summers]

Take the shot and then go to bed. You shouldn't have any probs if you fall asleep immediately. Also, there is an Excel file on the Melanotan discussion board (currently down) that tells you exactly how to mix it up (you just supply your current weight). I may have it but I can't find it at the moment.
SS

[phatkid77]

is this shit even safe, or is it poison???

FDA approved, or back yard mix??

phats

[Mr.Freeze]

from CNN


June 17, 1999
Web posted at: 2:37 p.m. EDT (1837 GMT)

By Senior Medical Correspondent Dan Rutz

(CNN) -- Last year's U.S. approval of Viagra, the first-ever pill for impotence, has sparked great interest in developing more remedies for sexual dysfunction. One promising lead comes from the University of Arizona, where researchers had been hard at work on a drug to prevent skin cancer.

Melanotan II was being tested as a safe way to get a protective suntan, explains Dr. Norman Levine, a dermatology researcher. "Our goal was to try and induce a tan without exposing them to potentially harmful rays of the sun or tanning booth."

As expected, Melanotan darkened skin pigment, but researchers soon learned that's not all it could do.

"It so happens that one very astute observer who took this drug reported to us that he was developing spontaneous erections," Levine recalls, and with that, the dermatologists brought on the urologists and charted a new course for developing Melanotan II.

Melanotan to the test
Dr. Hunter Wessells alternated doses of Melanotan II with a placebo in 10 men diagnosed with erectile dysfunction. All of them were impressed by the results. Nine out of 10 developed erections when given the real drug.

And, Wessells adds, it happened without any effort on their part. "These men were not looking at erotic video tapes. They weren't engaging in sexual activity. They were just sitting around. And on the placebo, none of them got any erectile activity -- zero."

"Jim," 42, became impotent a year and a half ago. It took him several months to admit the problem, even to himself. "'Cause I figured ... new girlfriend ... maybe it's getting nervous, and this or that. But it never got any better, and it was, like, absolutely nothing. So I went and checked with a doctor."

Injectable medication helped him, but he didn't like giving himself shots. He was relieved when Viagra hit the market, and disappointed when it didn't work for him. But Melanotan did.

"The Melanotan, the first time, was absolutely amazing. I knew something was going on. It was a very large effect." Neither Jim nor the other participants in that trial were exposed to any sexually illicit material. They were sent home after receiving the drug and told to wait around to see what might what happen.

Within 40 minutes responders reported a need to stretch -- a harmless side effect of the drug -- and soon after, spontaneous erections. Although they were instructed not to have sex, "Jim" says it could have taken place under the right circumstances. "This would have been fun. This would have been enough to have intercourse," he said.

Libido booster?
Researchers believe Melanotan II works directly on the brain, where it affects sexual desire as well as physical performance. Viagra, by comparison, appears to have no direct effect on libido. According to Wessells, "with Viagra the man has to initiate sexual activity or Viagra won't work. With this it sort of comes on its own." If further testing confirms the drug to be safe and effective, doctors say it might be useful for treating both psychological and physiological impotence.

Viagra may be one of the most successful new drugs in history, but it has been clear from the start that the first impotence pill approved in the United States isn't for everyone. Depending on the cause of their sexual problems, the little blue pill fails to produce erections for a quarter to half of the men who try it. And men on certain heart medications have been warned not to take Viagra due to the chance of dangerous drug interactions that can even prove fatal.

Melanotan doesn't appear to affect blood pressure adversely, as Viagra can, so its promoters say it should be safe for just about anyone. But the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has advised the Arizona researchers to proceed with caution. New studies, slated to begin this summer, will test Melanotan in the laboratory.

Volunteers who've lost their sexual function after prostate removal surgery, but who have an intact nerve (necessary for erection), will be given the drug under close observation. In addition to measuring sexual response, doctors will conduct blood tests and other measurements to assure the drug is as safe as they think it is. For now, Melanotan must be injected under the skin, but it's probable, doctors say, that a commercial version would be formulated as an eyedrop or nasal spray.

The University of Arizona researchers remain optimistic about their work but are quick to point out that Melanotan II faces years of testing before it might become available to men in need.

[bigdaddydrew123]

Really? I wasn't expecting the sides after the very first injection.

I have a Halloween party tonight. Should I inject tomorrow instead? I don't want to be disguised as the Hulk and have a big erection while vomiting in the punch.




-Z-i felt nauseua first shot but it didnt last long maybe 20 min

[ZeOne]

OK, so early this morning, immediately post injection, I did feel a little nausea, but at 0.25mg, it wasn't really serious.

Woke up with the usual erection I get from prop, so I am not sure it is due to the MT-2, or how much MT-II contributes to it.

No change in libido after first injection.

[Kiem]

I just use 2mL of BW instead of 1. Also, I didn't feel any increase in libido, only felt nauseous for a lil bit.

[ZeOne]

...and melanotan.org is down, I was doing a protocol on there.

I will just continue injecting 0.25 until the site is up, 2 to 3 days from now.

[kloan]

is this shit even safe, or is it poison???

FDA approved, or back yard mix??

phats
It's legit stuff, and for the most part safe... pharmaceutical companies are working on their own versions of it. It's why some sellers of MT2 have been shut down in the US.

[ZeOne]

Second injection. 0.4mg. No nausea, no random erections, no increase in libido.

I am not expecting a change in skin color yet.

[ZeOne]

Third injection. 0.5mg. No nausea, no random erections, no increase in libido.

I am not expecting a change in skin color yet.

[ZeOne]

Woke up with a huge boner today, and it lasted a while before it went away, lol.

Reminds me of LTL's Liquid cialis.

Libido is somewhat increased today.

[ZeOne]

Shot #4:

I lowered the dosage back to 0.3g because I am starting to look really dark. I went to tanning bed twice this week, so I don't think it is because of the MT-II

The erections are still there and very hard. Better than Cialis or Viagra, but less controllable.

Libido is higher

I am shooting at night, just before I sleep.

No more nausea.





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[BAM]

any freckles yet?

[ZeOne]

any freckles yet?

Well, I don't know if I am just being paranoid, or if it is a freckle. I have a small tiny dot on the cheek (next to the nose), and I hate it.

That is the first time I notice it. Maybe I am just over examining.

I also noticed some darkening of my moles (grains de beautée)


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[ZeOne]

Shot#5 and Shot #6

My family thinks I am attempting to look like Obama!! LOL..I am getting a lot of reactions on the tan, although I still don't see myself dark enough.

I lowered the dosage back to 0.25g because based on feedback, the tan is well beyond enough.

The erections are still there and very hard.

Libido is higher

I am shooting at night, just before I sleep.


The plan is to do 0.25mg every 3 days. One is only supposed to go on maintenance after 4 weeks, I am doing it after 1.

[kloan]

That was quick.

[gsxr750]

Wow... awesome... might just give'r a go myself.

[ZeOne]

Yeah, the only bad side so far is a few freckles in some visible spots.

[gsxr750]

They bring out your eyes you stud! :) Lookin' pretty Obama in that avy pic already my friend...nice

[#8]

do they make mII pharmaceutically? I asked my derm about it and he had never heard of it. Is there any way one could get a script for it?

[ZeOne]

do they make mII pharmaceutically? I asked my derm about it and he had never heard of it. Is there any way one could get a script for it?

Not as far as I know. There might be some private clinic that can give you a treatment, but I am not certain, since the MT-II is officially sold for research purposes only.

[nisser]

I wonder if the freckles would be a no issue if the dose was extremely low; I'm thinking like a 10fold dilution. I'm thinking of getting on this for the next summer and if I do that's probably what I'd do. If I ever grow some balls to do it =(

edit: To answer jerseys question, it's not approved by FDA so you won't get to use it in that way.

[IronRobi]

So being for research purposes, what are the legalities behind mtII here in Canada?

[Kiem]

So being for research purposes, what are the legalities behind mtII here in Canada?

I believe Its in the grey area like IGF lr3, sometimes they'll size and sometimes not.

[Anatomy]

I never needed more than a week either but I've never tried to maintain through the winter months; I'm interested to see how you do. Are you planning to keep on tanning?

[ZeOne]

I never needed more than a week either but I've never tried to maintain through the winter months; I'm interested to see how you do. Are you planning to keep on tanning?

Ideally no. I hate tanning, this is why I am using MT-II

I will keep you guy posted. I want to see how long I can keep my tan on MT-2 alone with no UVs.

[gsxr750]

What's going on Z! Do you look like Barack Obama yet?

[ZeOne]

LOL,

I am on maintenance dose 0.25 every 4th day.

No more freckles, and tan is looking very good :D

Didn't tan for 2 weeks now.

[gsxr750]

So you would recommend this then?

[ZeOne]

So you would recommend this then?

Most definitely gets 2 thumbs up from me.

Worked like a charm apart from the first injection that gave me a bit of nausea.

I will keep updating the log with any new developments.



Meanwhile, if you have any questions do not hesitate to post them in this thread.



-Z-

[Seth]

look cuban yet?

[ZeOne]

look cuban yet?

LOL,

Everyone that sees me swears that I have been on vacation. I look tanned and healthy :)

[ZeOne]

The tan is starting to fade. I still look tanned, but to my eyes, much less so than a few days ago.

I am going to up the dose to 0.5mg every 2 days and no UV exposure to see what results I get.

I hate tanning beds, and I would rather avoid them.

[ZeOne]

Since I got asked this question numerous times via PM, I will answer it here.

I have been asked how long do the erectile effects last and how soon they kick in.

In my case it takes 2 to 3 hours for the libido and the erectile boost, and it can last anywhere up to 6 hours after that @0.5mg

So my way to deal with it, I inject myself before I got to sleep, or if there is something else planned for the night, I recommend you inject the 0.5mg 3 hours before sexual activity.

On a side note, the orgasms are also stronger with the MT-II, and it seems that you are ready to go for another round shortly thereafter.

[ZeOne]

Update: Since I started the maintenance protocol I have been having a lot of stomach discomfort and heart burns. I am not sure it is related to the MT-II, but the symptoms seem to get worst each day following the injection.

I will skip this maintenance dose and see if things get better.

[ZeOne]

Update:

The initial plan was to use the Melanotan with the least amount of UV.

Well, here is the current situation.

At maintenance dosage (0.25mg-0.50mg every 3 days), it is impossible to keep a good tan going. But if I do daily injection, I can get a decent tan with no UV exposure.

So I am now trying to do maintenance dose with a once per week tanning bed session of 8 minutes. So instead of MelaNoTan, I am using it as a MelaTanLess.

The other issue is the stomach discomfort and the heart burns. They do not seem to go away. I did not have these at the beginning...they only appeared when I started my maintenance dose.


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[nisser]

What's your definition of "not a good tan"?


If you were without MT2 and tanning, how many minutes of tanning (2 tanning sessions a week) would it be equivalent at 0.25mg every 3 days?

Lol i hope that makes sense. And thanks for the update.

[nisser]

any updates man?

[Gettin'r'round]

Everyone uses MTII with UV eventually. IF somehow they managed to get a consistent time released MTII it might work. Doing one shot per day (or eod) is just too much of a hit and the sides kick in. This isn't the miracle drug I read about 8yrs ago...

[ZeOne]

any updates man?

I started again with the MT-II. I used the same vials.

The heart burns and stomach discomfort started a week after the first injection so I am suspecting a bad batch. My next purchase will be American made MT-II as I didn't have much luck with this Chinese (yellow tops) one.

The usefulness of this product lies in it's ability to give you a great tan while minimizing UV exposure. This time around I didn't go to a tanning saloon, but instead I got really dark by just doing some yard work in the sun.

The downside of this peptide is the moles it gives you which, for me at least, did not all go away after cessation. Another side effect is the extreme stomach discomfort. But as I said earlier, this could be due to a bad batch and not to the general properties of the MT-II itself.

[Genome]

These guys are top-notch and are in Canada:

http://************/melanotan

[ZeOne]

These guys are top-notch and are in Canada:

http://xxx.com/melanotan

Never heard of these guys and I would have a hard time trusting one's recommandation who's participation in this forum is less than a few posts.

Nothing against you personally but looking through the few posts that you made, one can not help but notice that it is not the first time you seem to be pushing the said website.




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