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SARGE
08-09-2008, 05:11 PM
Anybody familiar with controling ph?Is there a kit or will any type of ph paper
work and what level should a person strive for (7.0 )Would'nt drinking 1-1.5gallons of water flush the acids out?Should a person even be concerned.Any feedback would be great.

Mr Ontario
08-09-2008, 05:31 PM
You can buy a pee test strips at your Naturepath store!

guest
08-09-2008, 06:06 PM
there are a lot of people in the medical field that say the alkaline diet it is hogwash, however, many top tier athletes(randy couture for one) swear by it. i know i feel a huge difference when i am more alkaline.
you can buy test strips at the health food store, like Mr O said above. you can also find alkalizing drops to add to your water (and greens powder).

guest
08-09-2008, 06:07 PM
here is a quick blurb for anyone that may be curious(Kilburn;)):

What is the Alkaline Diet?
Other names: alkaline acid diet, acid alkaline diet

An alkaline diet is a diet that emphasizes, to a varying degree, fresh fruit, vegetables, roots and tubers, nuts, and legumes.
What is the History of Alkaline Diets?

Our hunter-gatherer ancestors consumed a diet very different from what's typical today. The diet was based on minimally processed plant and animal foods. But with the advent of agriculture, the standard Western diet changed greatly.

* Grains were introduced into the diet after the appearance of stone tools. Refined grains were available after the invention of automated rolling and sifting devices.

* Milk, cheese and other milk products were introduced with the domestication of livestock.

* Salt consumption rose when technology to mine, process, and transport it became available.

* Meat consumption increased with animal husbandry. It further increased with the advent of technology that enabled grains to be efficiently fed to cattle, which allowed cattle to be fattened quickly.

* Sugar consumption has risen since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.

Almost all foods that we eat, after being digested, absorbed, and metabolized, release either an acid or an alkaline base (bicarbonate) into blood. Grains, fish, meat, poultry, shellfish, cheese, milk, and salt all produce acid, so the introduction and dramatic rise in our consumption of these foods meant that the typical Western diet became more acid-producing. Consumption of fresh fruit and vegetables decreased, which further made the Western diet acid-producing.

Our blood is slightly alkaline, with a normal pH level of between 7.35 and 7.45. The theory behind the alkaline diet is that our diet should reflect this pH level (as it did in the past) and be slightly alkaline. Proponents of alkaline diets believe that a diet high in acid-producing foods is disrupts this balance and promotes the loss of essential minerals such as potassium, magnesium, calcium, and sodium, as the body tries to restore equilibrium. This imbalance is thought to make people prone to illness.
Why Do People Try Alkaline Diets?

According to some alternative practitioners, the shift to an acid-producing diet is the cause of a number of chronic diseases. Some practitioners recommend the alkaline diet if a person has the following symptoms and other illnesses have been ruled out.

* Lack of energy
* Excessive mucous production
* Nasal congestion
* Frequent colds and flu
* Anxiety, nervousness, irritability
* Ovarian cysts, polycystic ovaries, benign breast cysts
* Headache

Although conventional doctors do believe that increasing consumption of fruit and vegetables and reducing one's intake of meat, salt, and refined grains is beneficial to health, most conventional doctors do not believe that an acid-producing diet is the foundation of chronic illness. In conventional medicine, there is evidence, however, that alkaline diets may help prevent the formation of calcium kidney stones, osteoporosis, and age-related muscle wasting.
What is the Evidence for Alkaline Diets?

Large, well-designed clinical trials on the effectiveness of the alkaline diet for general health are lacking.

Gib
08-09-2008, 07:05 PM
I wouldnt worry much about it. If you are eating sensibly (Lots of greens and good lean meat) your diet is fine.

I LOVE the cave-man type diet, though as im just in this game for fitness and general health (not competing in BBing) im not a slave to it either.

For me, I listen to doctors over athletes when it comes to these matters.

guest
08-09-2008, 08:48 PM
I wouldnt worry much about it. If you are eating sensibly (Lots of greens and good lean meat) your diet is fine.

I LOVE the cave-man type diet, though as im just in this game for fitness and general health (not competing in BBing) im not a slave to it either.

For me, I listen to doctors over athletes when it comes to these matters.

i like to find a happy medium for diet myself. the same goes for information from docs and athletes. i mean, it wasnt many years ago that doctors assured us steroid use would kill us.

Mr Ontario
08-09-2008, 09:18 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/09/04/bodybuilder-death-steroids-warning/

4031
08-09-2008, 11:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/09/04/bodybuilder-death-steroids-warning/

thats alittle off topic

SARGE
09-09-2008, 12:39 AM
I guess i was wondering if anyone was monitoring there ph and seen any differencce by controling it.

guest
09-09-2008, 01:38 AM
I guess i was wondering if anyone was monitoring there ph and seen any differencce by controling it.

yes, you will see changes in your ph when using ph strips if you are making an effort to eat alkaline.

i noticed the biggest fluctuations in the urine tests, my saliva was always heavily alkaline.

SARGE
09-09-2008, 02:01 AM
yes, you will see changes in your ph when using ph strips if you are making an effort to eat alkaline.

i noticed the biggest fluctuations in the urine tests, my saliva was always heavily alkaline.
THANKYOU VERY MUCH BANACEK FOR YOUR INPUT.
DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE MORE ENERGY OR JUST FEEL BETTER OVERALL BEING ALKALINE?I WILL GO GET SOME PH PAPERS TOMORROW.

Gettin'r'round
09-09-2008, 08:46 AM
My wife is big on this, i'm not. My main worry is the taking of the buffer pills. Sodium bicarb, potassium + calcium citrate, etc. There is a reason your pee is acidic. It makes for a unfriendly environment for bacteria. Same with your stomach. It's also acidic for digesting food as well. You take a buffer and your body has to work that much harder. However if you just eat better (ie more greens) and avoid acidic foods them more power to ya.
As with most things popping a pill is just the lazy way out.

Mr Ontario
09-09-2008, 09:18 AM
Sorry I should have quoted when Bana said i mean, it wasnt many years ago that doctors assured us steroid use would kill us.

Thought maybe some people can read between the lines..I guess not!



thats alittle off topic

guest
09-09-2008, 12:06 PM
THANKYOU VERY MUCH BANACEK FOR YOUR INPUT.
DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE MORE ENERGY OR JUST FEEL BETTER OVERALL BEING ALKALINE?I WILL GO GET SOME PH PAPERS TOMORROW.

i fall off the alkaline wagon way too much but when i am making an effort to stuff myself with green and alkaline foods i definitely feel more energetic. a big bowl of leafy green salad 1/2hr before working out makes a tremendous difference in energy level for me. mind you i train muay thai not bodybuilding. i also find a huge increase in my sense of well being, i am much more calm and better able to handle stress when eating more alkaline.

Mr Ontario
09-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Let me guess your shit is green as well and it doesn't stink?

guest
09-09-2008, 01:11 PM
Let me guess your shit is green as well and it doesn't stink?

why would you be curious about such things? of all the things to wonder...why wonder the color and smell of another man's shit?

Mr Ontario
09-09-2008, 01:17 PM
What you don't look at your own shit? Don't like the smell of your own farts....:fb


why would you be curious about such things? of all the things to wonder...why wonder the color and smell of another man's shit?

guest
09-09-2008, 01:18 PM
What you don't look at your own shit? Don't like the smell of your own farts....:fb

now you want to know if a man looks at his shit and likes the smell of farts? i am worried about you.

Mr Ontario
09-09-2008, 01:20 PM
lol Well at least I know your concerned :)


now you want to know if a man looks at his shit and likes the smell of farts? i am worried about you.

Gettin'r'round
09-09-2008, 01:34 PM
thread off the rails....

Mr Ontario
09-09-2008, 02:19 PM
You love it and you know it :)


thread off the rails....