Clomid Vs Nolva

[freshh]

Which one do you prefer?

I'm a week into my cycle and yet to get nolva or clomid.

I was thinking nolva at first, but other sources tell me otherwise to use clomid.

I know both do almost the same thing, but there is a difference.


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=82706

what are your opinions?

I'm running 500mgs/wk of sust.

I think ill go ahead with the nolva therapy, but I do enjoy seeing the opinions of fellow peers, especially Canadians ;) no discrimination intended :p

[Mr.Freeze]

In myt book their not the same!I would with nolva for the first time and see the result! If you did not see too much Difference do both at the same time the only orobleme a lot of people as acner when using Clomid but not everyone!

[ergie]

Nolvadex over Clomid any day of the week, you get lots sides on Clomid and you have to take alot more....... 100mg's to do the same as 20mg novadex

[InsulinShock]

Are you planning on using the Nolvadex during your cycle or post-cycle? If you are planning on using it during I would suggest taking an AI (anti-aromatase) vs a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) if you are worried about estrogen-related sides. At 500mg of test per week you really shouldn\'t worry unless you are really sensitive to estrogen. You should definitely have Nolvadex on-hand if you choose not to use an AI. BTW, next time you start a cycle I would suggest having everything you need before you start and this includes PCT ancillaries. Gyno is NOT cool. ;)

[Mr.Freeze]

HE said hes 20 years old so there is good chance that At 500mg of test per week he could have sign of gyno! me at 18 just by looking at a bottle i was getting gyno but now 12 years later i could take one gram of test a week with out a problem!

[ergie]

Are you planning on using the Nolvadex during your cycle or post-cycle? If you are planning on using it during I would suggest taking an AI (anti-aromatase) vs a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) if you are worried about estrogen-related sides. At 500mg of test per week you really shouldn\'t worry unless you are really sensitive to estrogen. You should definitely have Nolvadex on-hand if you choose not to use an AI. BTW, next time you start a cycle I would suggest having everything you need before you start and this includes PCT ancillaries. Gyno is NOT cool. ;)

tell me about it

[Mr.Freeze]

You too having a hard time with gyno?

[InsulinShock]

HE said hes 20 years old so there is good chance that At 500mg of test per week he could have sign of gyno! me at 18 just by looking at a bottle i was getting gyno but now 12 years later i could take one gram of test a week with out a problem!

Hmm, I have never read or heard anything about age playing a factor in estrogen sensitivity or aromatization. Is this just from personal experience? My first cycle was D-Bol, Sust & Deca and I did not experience any major sides related to aromatization except for bloat. But we are all different which is why I told him not to worry unless he was indeed sensitive to estrogen and to have Nolvadex on-hand.

[ergie]

You too having a hard time with gyno?

Yeah I got some during puberty and its gotten worse with all of my cycles even on anit e's. I'm looking at getting them cut out, just gotta find a surgeon.

[freshh]

God, leave the titties for the ladies..

end of rant

[InsulinShock]

Yeah I got some during puberty and its gotten worse with all of my cycles even on anit e\'s. I\'m looking at getting them cut out, just gotta find a surgeon.

Gynecomastia is actually very common in men (even those that do not use AAS). I remember reading somewhere that between 30-50% of men have gyno. Tamoxifen has been medically proven to work in 80% of the cases and actually cause complete regression. (Parker LN, Gray DR, Lai MK, et al. Treatment of gynecomastia with tamoxifen: a double-blind crossover study. Metabolism 1986;
35:705–708.) Quite a few people have used Letrozole successfully as well but no actual studies have been done that I could find. If you do opt for surgery make sure they remove the gland and not just remove the adipose tissue otherwise you run the risk of it returning. Hey if you get the gland removed you can do 2g of Test without the need of AIs, SERMs, etc. SWEET!

[ergie]

You seem educated on the subject, how does one go about finding a surgeon in there area?

[InsulinShock]

You seem educated on the subject, how does one go about finding a surgeon in there area?

Sometimes these surgeries are covered. If you choose that route it is a bit tricky and you have to know what to say to your GP for him to approve the surgery. OR you can always look for a reputable PLASTIC SURGEON in your area if you have around $4K to burn. You want to look for a physician with a certificate in Plastic Surgery as a "Cosmetic Surgeon" could be any doctor such as a dentist or dermatologist.

Here is a link to search for a surgeon in your area that is a member of The Canadian Society of Plastic Surgeons:

http://www.plasticsurgery.ca/content.aspx?catID=742&subcatID=440

[ergie]

to get it covered couldnt complain about them burning and having trouble sleeping because of it?

[drogomir]

I have a slight case of gyno and i am trying to find out where i can find nolvadex, clomid or even letrozole(femara) to buy here in canada. I here that letrozole actually reverses gyno so that would be great. I've read mixed opinions about Nolvadex and Clomid.

[Kiem]

I have a slight case of gyno and i am trying to find out where i can find nolvadex, clomid or even letrozole(femara) to buy here in canada. I here that letrozole actually reverses gyno so that would be great. I've read mixed opinions about Nolvadex and Clomid.


Nolva and Clomid won't help if you already have Gyno. Only Letro has the potential to reverse it. Run Letro at a low dose of .25mg for the first day then double it in increments each day until your at 2.5mg. Run it at that dose until gyno is gone (up to 2 weeks) then slowly taper off letro until your at .25mg again. Then switch to nolvadex at 20mg per day for 2 weeks to prevent Estrogen rebound. Letro is gonna completely dry you out (joints are gonna feel like crap) and kill your sex drive so make sure you taper up and down so you can get back to normal levels.