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loutfi
29-07-2011, 06:27 PM
2011 CBBF Bodybuilding Nationals, Laval, october 9th.

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Competitor List (tentative)

Men
Rob Friss - AB
Will Jones - AB
Ram Gill - BC
Mark Loo - BC
Mark St. Arnaud - BC
Todd Hnatiuk - BC
Ryan Malo - MB
Joe Marcoux - MB
John Wintrup - MB
Steve Marsh - MB
Jamie Sheldon - MB
Ian Birchall - MB
Darrell McDonald - MB
Paul Taylor - MB
Brandon Tufts - NS
Danny Garon - NS
Mike Lynds - NS
Mike Johnson - NS
Andrew Dudka - NS
Michael Wilson - NS
Chris Johnson - NS
Hassan Jama - ON
Iain Valliere - ON
Marlon John - ON
Jerry Poirier - ON
Matt Tavolieri - ON
Ted Trush - ON
Tim Love - ON
Jerome Bravo - ON
Mich Roussin - ON
Tony Searle - ON
Renaldo Gairy - ON
Loutfi Ajaoun - QC
Antoine Vaillant - QC
Mathieu Langlois - QC
Frantz Prevaly - QC
Jean-Francois Bouchard - QC
Steven Côté - QC
Miguel Coulombe - QC
Fred Parent - QC
Dave Mitchell - QC
Leo Difruscia - QC
Jonathan Mancini - QC
Martin Allard - QC
Alexandre Raymond - QC
André Longchamp - QC
Maxime Lepage - QC
Guy Thibodeau - QC
Serge Poliquin - QC
Jean-Francois Labelle - QC
Steve Potvin - QC
Richard Lalonde - QC
Tun Tun Thant - SK

Women
Barbara Stannard - AB
Dianne Fraser - AB
Carmen Tocheniuk - AB
Tara Silzer - AB
Nancy Clark - BC
Bianca Liberatore - BC
Lisa Giesbrecht - BC
Dawn Alison - BC
Lorilee Sweeney - BC
Debbie Rotoff - MB
Yvette Landry - MB
Carol Hanley - ON
Joanne Williams - ON
Sharron Mould - ON
Tana McGowan - ON
Wendy McMaster - ON
Fabiola Boulanger - QC

MuSuLPhReAk
29-07-2011, 10:14 PM
Nice poster. Who can find something different on it? :)

Delt King
29-07-2011, 10:32 PM
Nice poster. Who can find something different on it? :)

It's in french. lol

JonnyO
30-07-2011, 02:31 AM
WHo will be going? I have 2 clients going that I will be tending to make sure they show their best that weekend. Staying at the host hotel. I am really looking fwd to going...BONUS weekend away from the kids, lol...I hope I dont sleep through pre-judjing.

MuSuLPhReAk
30-07-2011, 09:26 AM
It's in french. lol

lol, true.

But the new thingy is the CBB banner on it.

CBB is sponsoring the event :)

loutfi
30-07-2011, 11:27 AM
lol, true.

But the new thingy is the CBB banner on it.

CBB is sponsoring the event :)

Yeah, that's true ! Really good thing ! It's gonna be a good and intersting show ...

Delt King
30-07-2011, 12:39 PM
lol, true.

But the new thingy is the CBB banner on it.

CBB is sponsoring the event :)

wow i didn't see that...awesome MP...since this board is the place to be for Canadian Bodybuilding information and exposure, what better sponsorship. Kudos on that decision.

Maria
31-07-2011, 11:13 AM
Wow, awesome MP!!! Congrats!!

MuSuLPhReAk
02-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Thanks.
Let's get this thread moving. Let's list who's going to be competing this year so we can get to know the competitors beforehand. List them and I'll rearrange Loutfi's first post to reflect updates.

razorsedge
02-08-2011, 11:52 PM
As for competitors, Nancy Clark will be a first timer at the National event...womens open HW and GM..2011 BC overall champ

MuSuLPhReAk
03-08-2011, 08:27 AM
As for competitors, Nancy Clark will be a first timer at the National event...womens open HW and GM..2011 BC overall champ

Thanks, added in.

razorsedge
03-08-2011, 10:23 AM
Ram Gill from BC is in for mens HW...

MuSuLPhReAk
03-08-2011, 01:00 PM
Nice.

loutfi
03-08-2011, 02:59 PM
I spoke with Jerome a few days ago. He told he's 300 pounds lean and just begun his diet.
So you can add his name in the super heavy MusulPhreak !
Also from Quebec, fresh winner of the Provincial Quebec, Mathieu Langlois (on the poster lat spread), in super heavies as well.
Between Antoine, Mathieu, Jerome and normally Marlon, i will again the little man in the land of giants ! lol

MuSuLPhReAk
03-08-2011, 03:31 PM
I spoke with Jerome a few days ago. He told he's 300 pounds lean and just begun his diet.
So you can add his name in the super heavy MusulPhreak !
Also from Quebec, fresh winner of the Provincial Quebec, Mathieu Langlois (on the poster lat spread), in super heavies as well.
Between Antoine, Mathieu, Jerome and normally Marlon, i will again the little man in the land of giants ! lol

lol, going to be a very interesting Nationals this year. I am in the process of contacting a few competitors to see if any want to throw their name in the mix. Both Jerome and Mathieu have been added.

Dryvrgrl
03-08-2011, 06:01 PM
Hey! I REALLY hope you guys know something i dont... but im not sure if im qualified for this show... (coco kissack)
I'd do it.. i really WANT to do it, but im still trying to figure out qualification... i dont think i can take my fitness qualification and transfer it to bodybuilding.. unless of course one of the awesome sponsors of the even backs me!!...
I can be ready!!!!

fitbody
03-08-2011, 06:13 PM
I will be competing in Heavy weight women & Grand Masters (seeing they lower the age limit lol)
my client Lorilee Sweeney who won grand masters Champ last yr will be defending her title
and she has a Junior Women Bodybuilder who's gonna compete
i wish my Jr who won this years BC's would come but she said too much dough

MuSuLPhReAk
03-08-2011, 06:32 PM
Hey! I REALLY hope you guys know something i dont... but im not sure if im qualified for this show... (coco kissack)
I'd do it.. i really WANT to do it, but im still trying to figure out qualification... i dont think i can take my fitness qualification and transfer it to bodybuilding.. unless of course one of the awesome sponsors of the even backs me!!...
I can be ready!!!!

Arg...it's true. I saw a convo between you and Leigh and didn't think anything of it. It would have been great to see you hit that bb stage. Soon!!

MuSuLPhReAk
03-08-2011, 06:33 PM
I will be competing in Heavy weight women & Grand Masters (seeing they lower the age limit lol)
my client Lorilee Sweeney who won grand masters Champ last yr will be defending her title
and she has a Junior Women Bodybuilder who's gonna compete
i wish my Jr who won this years BC's would come but she said too much dough

Thanks. Added in.

natenator
03-08-2011, 07:52 PM
I spoke with Jerome a few days ago. He told he's 300 pounds lean and just begun his diet.
So you can add his name in the super heavy MusulPhreak !
Also from Quebec, fresh winner of the Provincial Quebec, Mathieu Langlois (on the poster lat spread), in super heavies as well.
Between Antoine, Mathieu, Jerome and normally Marlon, i will again the little man in the land of giants ! lol

They gave him his one call did they?

fitbody
04-08-2011, 12:52 AM
I will be competing in Heavy weight women & Grand Masters (seeing they lower the age limit lol)
my client Lorilee Sweeney who won grand masters Champ last yr will be defending her title
and she has a Junior Women Bodybuilder who's gonna compete
i wish my Jr who won this years BC's would come but she said too much dough

Jr Women BB name is: Bianca Libertore
she's trained by Lorilee Sweeney they're both from Kamloops, BC

Dryvrgrl
04-08-2011, 08:12 AM
Arg...it's true. I saw a convo between you and Leigh and didn't think anything of it. It would have been great to see you hit that bb stage. Soon!!

LOL.. all good..I wqould have been qualified if i did the manitoba's or the ontario's, but with my move, and my eye issue and my kid... too much was going on... i coulda come in last place and still been qualified lol... BUT i will be doing the London Ontario show in November MP!...
(ps... next yr is mine... just sayin!!)

razorsedge
04-08-2011, 08:59 AM
I will be competing in Heavy weight women & Grand Masters (seeing they lower the age limit lol)
my client Lorilee Sweeney who won grand masters Champ last yr will be defending her title
and she has a Junior Women Bodybuilder who's gonna compete
i wish my Jr who won this years BC's would come but she said too much dough

Too bad Carmen Enns not going...unbelievable potential there and she looks like a beauty if she stays with it imo..if you get tired of training her Dawn I'll take her..LOL

MuSuLPhReAk
04-08-2011, 11:25 AM
Updates Added

MuSuLPhReAk
04-08-2011, 12:52 PM
More names added.

dangit
11-08-2011, 01:02 PM
Michael Wilson from NS is suppose to be competing as well in the Juniors. He won his class at the NS show this year.

cheddar cheese3
11-08-2011, 04:01 PM
Pretty positive that Lisa Geisbricht. (sp?) is doing this show as well

MuSuLPhReAk
11-08-2011, 09:56 PM
Added them in. Thanks.

phatkid77
14-08-2011, 04:20 PM
Tony Searle

natenator
14-08-2011, 07:53 PM
Tony Searle

Maybe one day he'll actually nail his conditioning but im not holding my breath for Nationals this year

MuSuLPhReAk
14-08-2011, 09:18 PM
Antoine V was another with problems dialing it in on contest day and nailed it at the Arnold Amateurs. Saw some pictures of Tony and he looks pretty good. On Team Universal with Antoine Vaillant and Frank McGrath.

Thanks phatkid77, added him in.

steve_d
15-08-2011, 08:27 AM
Tony always looks pretty good. But that seems to be where it stops - I think he's got some good potential but perhaps too fixed on moving up in weight? I saw pics of him about 10 weeks out, and he looked almost the same as when he was 1 week out. I am a fan of staying relatively lean off-season, but if you can't translate that into getting shredded on stage, then you have to go back to the drawing board. If you always look good, you kinda forget what you should look like to look insane on stage. When you always look good, you start thinking hey, I am pretty much contest ready. Until you hit the stage and are out conditioned. He'd make a good top end middleweight at 187, although since the class is 176-198 this year, he'll be another one who either shows up too soft hoping to be top end, or shows up in shape, but is in a class that is too heavy. 3-4 more years though, and could make a good showing in the 190s.

MizzFitt
15-08-2011, 08:56 PM
I'm sure Chris Johnson from Halifax is doing it again this year. Gonna be hard to beat, win his class last year. Awesome bber!!!

dainbramaged
16-08-2011, 09:06 AM
I'm sure Chris Johnson from Halifax is doing it again this year. Gonna be hard to beat, win his class last year. Awesome bber!!!

and moving up yet another weight class from what I hear.

MuSuLPhReAk
16-08-2011, 09:18 AM
Updated the list.

dangit
16-08-2011, 04:39 PM
Yeah, Chris is in and he's doing a different diet than he's done before. It'll be interesting to see how his body works with a diet that's more like what Santana did :)

fitfanatik
17-08-2011, 02:06 AM
and moving up yet another weight class from what I hear.
Every class is always top notch....no word on a light middle class?
How are ticket sales for the night show going?
Here's a link for cheap accommodation AIRBNB (http://www.airbnb.com/search#modified=true)
It's gonna best a costly venture, so do your homework.
54 SLEEPS TO GO!!!

I'M IN!!!

I better get those mandatories down!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCoEBTEX9Yg

"Train insane or remain the same!" JBeck

MuSuLPhReAk
17-08-2011, 09:50 AM
Every class is always top notch....no word on a light middle class?
How are ticket sales for the night show going?
Here's a link for cheap accommodation AIRBNBIt's gonna best a costly venture, so do your homework.
54 SLEEPS TO GO!!!

I'M IN!!!

I better get those mandatories down!!

"Train insane or remain the same!" JBeck

Good stuff and good choice of music :) !! Added you in.

MuSuLPhReAk
17-08-2011, 12:59 PM
Renaldo Gairy is competing.

steve_d
19-08-2011, 01:31 PM
Light middle is renamed to middle. Its still the same weight cut-offs. the only difference is they've removed the 176-187 division and threw it in with the 187-198.

Looking lean this far out! Will you be 166-176?

fitfanatik
19-08-2011, 09:38 PM
Light middle is renamed to middle. Its still the same weight cut-offs. the only difference is they've removed the 176-187 division and threw it in with the 187-198.

Looking lean this far out! Will you be 166-176?

...never lean enough...we sure can't be leaving things till the last minute
I bet the light heavy class will have over 20 guys in it! I'll be 176ish...is ur bro Greg doing the show?

steve_d
20-08-2011, 06:13 AM
Greg's been battling some injuries. 90% sure it is a meniscus tear - booked for surgery in september. He may be competing next year though. as am i.

fitfanatik
22-08-2011, 01:49 PM
Greg's been battling some injuries. 90% sure it is a meniscus tear - booked for surgery in september. He may be competing next year though. as am i.

I hear rumors of next years canadas in Vancouver...then i heard edmonton...somewhere out west i'm sure.

Sorry to hear about Greg...hope "90% sure" is reduced to 50%, then he can avoid surgery. He has superpowers like the Xman-Wolverine...maybe in time he will heal himself. Avoid the knife at all costs.

What weight class u planning for next year Steve?

phatkid77
25-08-2011, 07:55 AM
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/showthread.php?2507-9-weeks-out!

he needs to nail it too..

steve_d
25-08-2011, 08:04 AM
I hear rumors of next years canadas in Vancouver...then i heard edmonton...somewhere out west i'm sure.

Sorry to hear about Greg...hope "90% sure" is reduced to 50%, then he can avoid surgery. He has superpowers like the Xman-Wolverine...maybe in time he will heal himself. Avoid the knife at all costs.

What weight class u planning for next year Steve?

He is actually hoping for the meniscus tear! Otherwise it could be something worse. I plan on coming in at 175.

natenator
25-08-2011, 08:22 AM
He is actually hoping for the meniscus tear! Otherwise it could be something worse. I plan on coming in at 175.As long as its not what my ortho wants to do - reposition my patella tendon so that my knee cap moves in a straignt line imstead of buldging out

MuSuLPhReAk
01-09-2011, 06:11 AM
Rob Friss from Alberta has been added in.

wjones45
01-09-2011, 01:35 PM
I will be competing, Will Jones , AB

MuSuLPhReAk
01-09-2011, 01:39 PM
I will be competing, Will Jones , AB

Thanks, added you to the list.

MuSuLPhReAk
05-09-2011, 09:02 AM
Marlon John will be doing the Nationals.

Praetorian
05-09-2011, 10:12 AM
You can add me to the list MP!
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MuSuLPhReAk
05-09-2011, 10:18 AM
:a+

MuSuLPhReAk
05-09-2011, 01:06 PM
Joanne Williams will be competing.

btufts
05-09-2011, 04:44 PM
Ill be there, junior mens

MuSuLPhReAk
05-09-2011, 10:24 PM
Good to see you going. Good luck.

MuSuLPhReAk
06-09-2011, 03:41 PM
Hassan Jama is in.

bluenose
06-09-2011, 08:50 PM
Maybe when I turn 55! LOL

MuSuLPhReAk
09-09-2011, 01:07 PM
Advanced Genetics athlete Danny Garon 4 weeks out. Sick quads!!

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150310735453130

loutfi
10-09-2011, 03:04 PM
4 weeks out !! :-)

MuSuLPhReAk
11-09-2011, 08:24 AM
Fabiola Boulanger 4 weeks out


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cD__taYNKc

JonnyO
12-09-2011, 01:56 AM
Ram Gill just sent me some pics. He's looking pretty sick right now looking to take it to the Heavies this year.

bluenose
12-09-2011, 06:34 PM
Does any one know if Leo DiFruscia will be competing this year! Definately top three guy in the heavies if not win the class if he shows up!

MuSuLPhReAk
13-09-2011, 10:20 AM
Wendy McMaster has been added to the list.

Mr.Freeze
13-09-2011, 12:18 PM
Does any one know if Leo DiFruscia will be competing this year! Definately top three guy in the heavies if not win the class if he shows up!

yes, hes doing it.

Mr.Freeze
15-09-2011, 03:54 PM
Antoine Vaillant 3.5 weeks out

loutfi
21-09-2011, 08:01 PM
As always Garry will be the official photographer.
27729

Stunna
22-09-2011, 04:15 AM
My client Iain V who is only 20 years old will win the junior mens, hes 228 today and is lookin ridicolous. These 2 pics were from his supershow win and kid has improved tremendously.

Ill be doing the HW mens which will be an intense class but i feel ready, the quad pic and arm is me today. Lets get it 18 days

bluenose
22-09-2011, 10:25 AM
Looking good Hassan! How was working with Gearge this year?

Best of luck!

BTW- The kid looks big and thick. He should do well if he comes in shape!

Stunna
22-09-2011, 04:08 PM
Hey Bluenose,

hope all is good with you man long time, working with goerge was great i learned alot of things mainly keeping size when dieting less cardio more carbs lower protien. Overalll was good my only problem was his client base is large so the final week or so i wasnt too happy with the detail payed. Im actually working with fouad the last weeks now just to have a good eye on me and im always peaked with him, so well see how it goes. As for the kid hes ready for the stage now like i said hes freaky dry its scary lol

steve_d
23-09-2011, 10:54 AM
As for the kid hes ready for the stage now like i said hes freaky dry its scary lol

I was judging when I saw this kid compete in Ottawa. He was freaky ripped, most striated glutes I've ever seen on someone his age, and actually, probably on anyone outside of pictures. He is one to watch in the future. Just needs to perfect his posing, and fill out a few weaknesses.

freaky abs
23-09-2011, 05:04 PM
I was judging when I saw this kid compete in Ottawa. He was freaky ripped, most striated glutes I've ever seen on someone his age, and actually, probably on anyone outside of pictures. He is one to watch in the future. Just needs to perfect his posing, and fill out a few weaknesses.
I know that Personal Trainer Freddie Palmer trained Iain for the Ottawa show where he placed 1st. I know that Freddie still trains him for the Canadians, but I think he has other people helping him out. He will win his weight class.

Stunna
23-09-2011, 07:35 PM
I know that Personal Trainer Freddie Palmer trained Iain for the Ottawa show where he placed 1st. I know that Freddie still trains him for the Canadians, but I think he has other people helping him out. He will win his weight class.

He doesnt train with freddie, freddie had him weightin 204 and over dieted for ottawas, i been doing his diet for the last 6 months plus and hes 228 now and just as lean. Theres no need for him to do 2 hrs step mill the guy has striated glutes all year. You have to work with the pesons on a 1 to 1 basic not one rule apply to all. If you also noticed he can pose great now i been doing his posing weekly as well as diet and training.
He needs a good offseason or year off to fill in weak points

Stunna
23-09-2011, 07:38 PM
Last night after posing

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natenator
23-09-2011, 08:27 PM
He doesnt train with freddie, freddie had him weightin 204 and over dieted for ottawas, i been doing his diet for the last 6 months plus and hes 228 now and just as lean. Theres no need for him to do 2 hrs step mill the guy has striated glutes all year. You have to work with the pesons on a 1 to 1 basic not one rule apply to all. If you also noticed he can pose great now i been doing his posing weekly as well as diet and training.
He needs a good offseason or year off to fill in weak points

Freddy is a moron plain and simple. Nice guy but a moron.

Stunna
23-09-2011, 08:41 PM
lol he is a freak no doubt that year he won the ottawas he had pro calibur body but thats just his freakiness he was massive and ripped to shit. That doesnt mean you can train and diet people

freaky abs
23-09-2011, 09:06 PM
He doesnt train with freddie, freddie had him weightin 204 and over dieted for ottawas, i been doing his diet for the last 6 months plus and hes 228 now and just as lean. Theres no need for him to do 2 hrs step mill the guy has striated glutes all year. You have to work with the pesons on a 1 to 1 basic not one rule apply to all. If you also noticed he can pose great now i been doing his posing weekly as well as diet and training.
He needs a good offseason or year off to fill in weak points
My friend saw Iain training with Freddie at New BodY Dimensions Gym tuesday of this week. He was also seen doing chest with Freddie last week at the same gym. Iain looked good at the Ottawa's and destroyed the competition. He did not look over dieted. As Steve d (the judge) said he looked good. He just needs to work on his posing and bring up his arms.

freaky abs
23-09-2011, 09:11 PM
lol he is a freak no doubt that year he won the ottawas he had pro calibur body but thats just his freakiness he was massive and ripped to shit. That doesnt mean you can train and diet people
Yes Freddie had a freaky physique when he won the Ottawa's heavyweight and Overall. I do not know Freddie that well, but he has trained a lot of 1st place finishers in the past. So I have to disagree with you there. He is the one that trained Mike Platz (Mr. Canada and IFBB Pro). There are even lots of Musclemag Magazine articles of Freddie training Mike Platz. And everyone knows what Mike Platz looked like.

Stunna
23-09-2011, 09:51 PM
So you don't know him that well yet you know he trained mike plats lol and made him pro ?where do you come up with this? Lol
Anyway when someone pays you and you write their diets then that would make them your client.
When you work out at someone's gym and share a set with them that makes you just buddie

freaky abs
23-09-2011, 10:40 PM
So you don't know him that well yet you know he trained mike plats lol and made him pro ?where do you come up with this? Lol
Anyway when someone pays you and you write their diets then that would make them your client.
When you work out at someone's gym and share a set with them that makes you just buddie
All I know are the facts and the truth.
Freddie trained Mike Platz and that is the truth and a fact. Everyone knows this except you.
Freddie trains Iain and does not work out with Iain. Iain pays Freddie. That is a fact and truth.
If you do not want to believe it, that is your problem.

BigGuns21
24-09-2011, 12:27 AM
All I know are the facts and the truth.
Freddie trained Mike Platz and that is the truth and a fact. Everyone knows this except you.
Freddie trains Iain and does not work out with Iain. Iain pays Freddie. That is a fact and truth.
If you do not want to believe it, that is your problem.

Fact, Iain has hit some workouts with Freddy this past month, Freddy has a totally different style of training that yeilds dividends, I know, I've trained with him. It is probably a good shock to Iain's body right now with Freddy's intense dropset/superset style of training.

Fact, Hassan is really "training" him. I gaurantee you 110% he is not on Freddy's diet, or "supplement" advice at this point and spends the majority of his time training by himself or with Hassan.

Fact, the kid is a f'n freak for his age and looked like a man among children at the Ontario's, he barely had to pose to win that show. Like everyone, he has weak points to work on, but probably has the most potential of any one I can think of right now. I seen him a few days ago with a pump on and when your his age, that lean and still dieting so you are not a SHW in the open class...you are doing something right.

Fact, Iain will win the Junoirs and will probably place respectively in the open class to boot.

Fact, Freddy was not training Platz when he was at the National Level

Fact, Freddy would have won the Nationals hands down if health issues didn't cut his run short. Anyone who's seen the video from the Ottawa's that year would agree. I've still never seen a level 1 competitor step on stage looking like that.

And those are the facts...

freaky abs
24-09-2011, 12:53 AM
Fact, Iain has hit some workouts with Freddy this past month, Freddy has a totally different style of training that yeilds dividends, I know, I've trained with him. It is probably a good shock to Iain's body right now with Freddy's intense dropset/superset style of training.

Fact, Hassan is really "training" him. I gaurantee you 110% he is not on Freddy's diet, or "supplement" advice at this point and spends the majority of his time training by himself or with Hassan.

Fact, the kid is a f'n freak for his age and looked like a man among children at the Ontario's, he barely had to pose to win that show. Like everyone, he has weak points to work on, but probably has the most potential of any one I can think of right now. I seen him a few days ago with a pump on and when your his age, that lean and still dieting so you are not a SHW in the open class...you are doing something right.

Fact, Iain will win the Junoirs and will probably place respectively in the open class to boot.

Fact, Freddy was not training Platz when he was at the National Level

Fact, Freddy would have won the Nationals hands down if health issues didn't cut his run short. Anyone who's seen the video from the Ottawa's that year would agree. I've still never seen a level 1 competitor step on stage looking like that.

And those are the facts...
I agree Big guns. Freddie trains Iain on and off. He does not do Iain's diet or ever worked on Iain's posing. Iain did his posing by himself. I have talked to Freddie lots of times. I do not know him that well, but no-one knows him that well. He keeps to himself, so people do not know him that well. Because of that fact, people always make up stories and rumors about him that are not true. Like he had a heart attack, high blood pressure or food poison. That is not true. Freddie told me he had a stroke, that is why he stopped competing. He won the ottawa's, right after that he trained Mike Platz. Mike won the Ottawa's heavyweight and overall under Freddie's training. One month after Mike's victory, freddie had the stroke. He was out of training for a year, but recovered and started doing Personal Training again. He never competed again, and never touched roids again. He has been natural now for 16 years. This is the guy that stepped on the Ottawa stage looking like a Pro weighing 225 pounds with 22 inch arms.
I saw pictures of you Big Guns when you were training with freddie. You won the National Capital Classic and destroyed the competition in your class. I saw pics of your Sudbury competition. I think you came in 2nd LHW, but I think you should have won. You look big and massive with 20 inch arms.

I.V
24-09-2011, 01:15 AM
Well considering this is about me I feel it would be appropriate to intervene. Ya couldnt have said it better myself Big Guns, I do go down and train at newbody time-to-time with freddy but only when I feel I need a bit of a shock to the system with his intense training methods. In regards to diet, supplementation, posing and any other prep stuff I work solely with Hassan. Obviously the approach Hassan and I have been taking is working well and I feel I have made many significant and necessary improvements in my physique while working with him and that I bring a package that will be tough for any jr's to stack up to.

Stunna
24-09-2011, 01:50 AM
Im just glad ottawa will bring a nice representation to the nationals and since its in Laval i hope many people do show up. So what are we eating after the show ? that is the real debate

natenator
24-09-2011, 08:28 AM
****, you backpeddle well.





I agree Big guns. Freddie trains Iain on and off. He does not do Iain's diet or ever worked on Iain's posing. Iain did his posing by himself. I have talked to Freddie lots of times. I do not know him that well, but no-one knows him that well. He keeps to himself, so people do not know him that well. Because of that fact, people always make up stories and rumors about him that are not true. Like he had a heart attack, high blood pressure or food poison. That is not true. Freddie told me he had a stroke, that is why he stopped competing. He won the ottawa's, right after that he trained Mike Platz. Mike won the Ottawa's heavyweight and overall under Freddie's training. One month after Mike's victory, freddie had the stroke. He was out of training for a year, but recovered and started doing Personal Training again. He never competed again, and never touched roids again. He has been natural now for 16 years. This is the guy that stepped on the Ottawa stage looking like a Pro weighing 225 pounds with 22 inch arms.
I saw pictures of you Big Guns when you were training with freddie. You won the National Capital Classic and destroyed the competition in your class. I saw pics of your Sudbury competition. I think you came in 2nd LHW, but I think you should have won. You look big and massive with 20 inch arms.

MuSuLPhReAk
24-09-2011, 07:47 PM
Anyone know if Kirk Oberg is doing the Nationals? I just saw a recent pic of him. Huge improvement from the pic on the profile I made.

MuSuLPhReAk
25-09-2011, 10:37 AM
Antoine Vaillant's quads 2 weeks out

27762

razorsedge
25-09-2011, 10:41 AM
Antoine Vaillant's quads 2 weeks out



****.....

freaky abs
25-09-2011, 11:12 AM
Antoine Vaillant's quads 2 weeks out

27762
His wheels are looking good.

MuSuLPhReAk
25-09-2011, 12:32 PM
Tara Silzer of Alberta has been added

phatkid77
25-09-2011, 01:29 PM
Hassan.....is it me... Or do u look a lot fuller/better compared to the north americas??
Suppose not fully depleted and dropped of water?? But I think u look much improved!
Good luck

freaky abs
25-09-2011, 01:59 PM
Is big Zane Watson doing the Canadians?

Stunna
25-09-2011, 03:33 PM
Hassan.....is it me... Or do u look a lot fuller/better compared to the north americas??
Suppose not fully depleted and dropped of water?? But I think u look much improved!
Good luck

NA i think i was overfull cuase i ate like mad and didnt use any dieretic till next day so i was spilled over. I changed my diet this last month very very low carb and very high protien and fats high which seem to dry me alot and keep me full. Im actually less hungry than when i was doing 400carbs for NA. odd but ah well its working. I dont think i wanna do any carb manipulation and little water drop only. Fouad is doing my last weeks so i should be sharp like 2009 and 08

phatkid77
25-09-2011, 05:17 PM
Well good luck! I know u were stalkin costco for tilapia..haha.
You've made some solid changes the last couple yrs for sure!! Keep pluggin man

steve_d
25-09-2011, 05:53 PM
My friend saw Iain training with Freddie at New BodY Dimensions Gym tuesday of this week. He was also seen doing chest with Freddie last week at the same gym. Iain looked good at the Ottawa's and destroyed the competition. He did not look over dieted. As Steve d (the judge) said he looked good. He just needs to work on his posing and bring up his arms.

If I recall, he placed 3rd, or second in his division. I had him 3rd. So it's unfair to say he destroyed the competition. In fact the welter (chris) easily won the overall against the others including the heavy weight (chiplick) who beat iain by a decent margin. So, with that said, when I saw him, he needed to improve. As i understand, he has... And for someone so young, it makes sense that he will still be improving quite a bit from year to year, so yes, he is one to watch. Also, arms weren't the problem from memory. Quads were. and much of that was because of posing.

I would guess he should not have trouble winning junior, but I am going to put him out of top5 as a heavy, this year. Unless drastic things happened in his legs in 1 year, there will be a few more seasoned guys taking those spots. Give him 5 years of steady improvements, he'll be the new guy to beat in shw.

steve_d
25-09-2011, 05:58 PM
Is big Zane Watson doing the Canadians?

He's got good legs, but I think if he competes he will be in for a surprise. He won the provincials when I competed, but to be honest he didn't deserve his class win. I think the guy who came second ti him was insane...another young guy. I think his name was mathew roberts.

freaky abs
25-09-2011, 06:39 PM
If I recall, he placed 3rd, or second in his division. I had him 3rd. So it's unfair to say he destroyed the competition. In fact the welter (chris) easily won the overall against the others including the heavy weight (chiplick) who beat iain by a decent margin. So, with that said, when I saw him, he needed to improve. As i understand, he has... And for someone so young, it makes sense that he will still be improving quite a bit from year to year, so yes, he is one to watch. Also, arms weren't the problem from memory. Quads were. and much of that was because of posing.

I would guess he should not have trouble winning junior, but I am going to put him out of top5 as a heavy, this year. Unless drastic things happened in his legs in 1 year, there will be a few more seasoned guys taking those spots. Give him 5 years of steady improvements, he'll be the new guy to beat in shw.
Steve d, I meant that Iain destroyed the competition in the Juniors class. I was not talking about the heavyweight class. By the way do you know if the 21 year old kid John Aiello is doing the Canadians this year or next year?

freaky abs
25-09-2011, 06:48 PM
He's got good legs, but I think if he competes he will be in for a surprise. He won the provincials when I competed, but to be honest he didn't deserve his class win. I think the guy who came second ti him was insane...another young guy. I think his name was mathew roberts.
Yes I remember Matthew Roberts, he looked good. Is he doing the nationals?

steve_d
25-09-2011, 08:09 PM
Steve d, I meant that Iain destroyed the competition in the Juniors class. I was not talking about the heavyweight class. By the way do you know if the 21 year old kid John Aiello is doing the Canadians this year or next year?

not sure if john is...If his trainers are smart, they would have him wait until AT LEAST next year. He's already done more than enough shows this past year. And yes, Iain won the junior, but I think there was only 1 other guy (moe) an actually, moe wasn't too bad, considering he was only 17 at tohe time and I actually had to give them both a few looks, since moe has something about him you couldn't discount. But yeah, a guy like Iain wasn't going to have a hard time at a local show in junior.


Yes I remember Matthew Roberts, he looked good. Is he doing the nationals?

Perhaps... but I don't know him, so I don't know for sure. I would guess any of the top guys who did provincials in ontario in 2010 would be doing it this year. Guys like Kip Brown, Zane Watson, etc. Its the natural progression from winning provincials, to waiting for the next years nationals since ontarios provinicials is a weird time to compete back to back shows. not long enough after the show to have an 'offseason' and not close enough to just continue dieting. I was going to be 1 of those guys, competing this year, but I am waiting til 2012.

Stunna
25-09-2011, 11:04 PM
Ian is only gonna do junior male, then a good long off season maybe year off.
Matt roberts Should have won that HW class over Zane, Zane is doing this show I think matt isn't.
They both prob on the lighter HW side so tough to beat a 220 guy when your 205-210

Jordan Janvier looks his best he'll do well in HW

Stunna
26-09-2011, 05:45 AM
before bed pic, two weeks

Stunna
26-09-2011, 11:01 AM
Well good luck! I know u were stalkin costco for tilapia..haha.
You've made some solid changes the last couple yrs for sure!! Keep pluggin man

Thanks i figure take my time dont need to burn my self out with ridicolous #s, I think ill take a real long off season this year and i wanna be 230+ next show.

freaky abs
26-09-2011, 02:01 PM
What I am about to say will piss some people off (like those who use personal trainers to build their physique), but hopefully we can have a healthy debate about it. Some people can train themselves and build their physique, whilst others need others to help them build their physique. Lee Haney, 8 times Mr Olympia said there are "Shepherd" and there "Sheep". He said that the shepherd can always find their way home. The sheep are lost without the shepherd. They cannot find their way home. Lee Haney said "I am a shepherd". Examples of Shepherds just to name a few include 7 times Mr. Olympia Arnold Schwarzenegger, 8 times mr olympia Lee Haney, 6 times mr olympia Dorian Yates and 8 times mr olympia Ronnie Coleman. So do you consider yourself a "Shepherd" or a "Sheep"? I hope people do not get mad and we can a healthy discussion about what Lee Haney said. Of course Ronnie Coleman said "Lightweight Baby".

Stunna
26-09-2011, 02:19 PM
Doesnt matter how you get there if you have guidance or no guidance(which is rare since there is always some guidance even if not mentioned) BTW coleman is no shepherd without chad nichols or brain dobsen he aint winning no olympias. No one is doing everything alone

bluenose
26-09-2011, 02:22 PM
Hassan looking good coming into the show! Yep its been a while 08 I guess in Montreal. Been away from from pretty much everything bodybuilding with family issues, moving and building a new house. Nice break to get rested up and heal, but this time of year gets you fired up to get in contest shape.
I think your right if you were to be 230 plus it would suit your body type better. You have long limbs and takes alot to fill that real estate out. In addition to your height you have so much room for growth. But look out when it is because your thick and have big round muscles as it is now. I just don't think that pictures do you any justice. You look so much thicker in person.
Good luck!

Mathew Roberts has a nice physique. Even as a junior he just had thick muscles for a guy so young. In '07 I believe may have been his first provincials and 20yrs old he was lacking in conditioning. I see since then he has fixed that and looks nice and crisp at his last two provincials. He dosen't seem to be rushing to jump into the Nationals. Which in my opinion is a good plan for him since he is making good solid gains slowly and should be a solid heavy weight when ever he decides to go to the Nationals.
Seems to be modest and good guy to boot when I briefly spoke with him in 07.

Another guy that should do well in the SHW is Jerome Bravo if he bring good conditioning.

natenator
26-09-2011, 02:26 PM
How do you figure Ronnie was a shepherd? Chad Nichols ring a bell?



What I am about to say will piss some people off (like those who use personal trainers to build their physique), but hopefully we can have a healthy debate about it. Some people can train themselves and build their physique, whilst others need others to help them build their physique. Lee Haney, 8 times Mr Olympia said there are "Shepherd" and there "Sheep". He said that the shepherd can always find their way home. The sheep are lost without the shepherd. They cannot find their way home. Lee Haney said "I am a shepherd". Examples of Shepherds just to name a few include 7 times Mr. Olympia Arnold Schwarzenegger, 8 times mr olympia Lee Haney, 6 times mr olympia Dorian Yates and 8 times mr olympia Ronnie Coleman. So do you consider yourself a "Shepherd" or a "Sheep"? I hope people do not get mad and we can a healthy discussion about what Lee Haney said. Of course Ronnie Coleman said "Lightweight Baby".

Delt King
26-09-2011, 02:28 PM
Well Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and Kai Green use coaches (top 3 guys in bodybuilding). It's weird how guys coach others and then pay someone to coach them. I understand having a second set of eyes and not having to think etc. But personally i coach myself. I don't think there's anything wrong with it mind you...i just don't understand it.

bluenose
26-09-2011, 02:42 PM
Everyone has people that guide or help them! Some are more honest that others......Like the ones we pay! I worked with Chad because I wanted to learn more which I did and I wanted to take the guess work out of the contest prep. Hassan does the same with Fouad/George. These guys will give you the best!
Now, dumb ass friends telling you that "you look great bud"......"slamming it out of the park" or "your going to take the show" just because you look good in the gym is not the best guidance! You will spin your wheel for years and won't progress.

People do it themselves and good for them, but I personally like to have a coach!

natenator
26-09-2011, 02:44 PM
Well Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and Kai Green use coaches (top 3 guys in bodybuilding). It's weird how guys coach others and then pay someone to coach them. I understand having a second set of eyes and not having to think etc. But personally i coach myself. I don't think there's anything wrong with it mind you...i just don't understand it.

How do you know you couldn't be doing better with a different approach?

I personally don't really care. I went to hockey clinics, football clinics and did a lot of 1-on-1 work with various pro coaches when i was playing football. I did these things so i could improve in my sport and be the best that i could. You'll never know different or get better if you always do what you've always done.


And DK you maybe do your own personal training/prep stuff but you likely had to learn somewhere, reading articles, forums, journals etc so you're likely using borrowed knowledge just like MOST people are for everything in what they do. Few are revolutionary types and history denotes that...

bluenose
26-09-2011, 02:55 PM
Different approach is the key. From one coach to the next it is completly different. I gain 10 pounds of contest weight in one year just on approach alone. I completly changed my look by working with a good coach. The offseason was definately a very key component to this...not the usual blow to 277 ish pounds but 250-255 was the start.


How do you know you couldn't be doing better with a different approach?

I personally don't really care. I went to hockey clinics, football clinics and did a lot of 1-on-1 work with various pro coaches when i was playing football. I did these things so i could improve in my sport and be the best that i could. You'll never know different or get better if you always do what you've always done.


And DK you maybe do your own personal training/prep stuff but you likely had to learn somewhere, reading articles, forums, journals etc so you're likely using borrowed knowledge just like MOST people are for everything in what they do. Few are revolutionary types and history denotes that...

bluenose
26-09-2011, 03:05 PM
Haney Had Ty "Ropeman" Felder today trains NPC athletes

Yates Had Leroy Davis

These guys were not "Gurus", but training partners from the start and were very close and for sure relied on one another!

Bahh Bahh Bahh! Is that sheep? LOL

Delt King
26-09-2011, 03:53 PM
Very True Nate. I have borrowed information from all over the place. Taking different techniques from others applying some common sense to them and trying them out. No i am not revolutionary in my thinking. Could i have gotten better results listening to someone? This could've sped things up. to be honest if i had even applied what i've been telling my clients to my myself i would've had better results than i have now. I am the worst client i have. lol. In the end, no big deal, as i am happy with where i'm at and only will improve from this point on.


How do you know you couldn't be doing better with a different approach?

I personally don't really care. I went to hockey clinics, football clinics and did a lot of 1-on-1 work with various pro coaches when i was playing football. I did these things so i could improve in my sport and be the best that i could. You'll never know different or get better if you always do what you've always done.


And DK you maybe do your own personal training/prep stuff but you likely had to learn somewhere, reading articles, forums, journals etc so you're likely using borrowed knowledge just like MOST people are for everything in what they do. Few are revolutionary types and history denotes that...

steve_d
26-09-2011, 04:25 PM
Well Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and Kai Green use coaches (top 3 guys in bodybuilding). It's weird how guys coach others and then pay someone to coach them. I understand having a second set of eyes and not having to think etc. But personally i coach myself. I don't think there's anything wrong with it mind you...i just don't understand it.


Usually, the guy will train someone 'below them' and hire someone 'above them' so to speak. So usually its not weird. For example, often times, pros will train amateurs, or even national level guys. But they are getting trained by 'pro trainers'. So in that sense, it makes sense. For example, micheal phelps could have probably given me a few tips on how to swim when I was a kid, but he needs a coach to get him to winning multiple golds.

I do know some examples where I know what you mean though...I am seeing alot of that with figure girls these days. Seems everyone has a 'team' of girls they train these days, when half the ones they are taining are just as good as them - and they aren't that good, lol.

freaky abs
26-09-2011, 08:21 PM
Haney Had Ty "Ropeman" Felder today trains NPC athletes

Yates Had Leroy Davis

These guys were not "Gurus", but training partners from the start and were very close and for sure relied on one another!

Bahh Bahh Bahh! Is that sheep? LOL
Good debate guys. Ty "Ropeman" Felder was Lee Haney's training partner. Lee Haney controlled the workouts and decided what exercises they were doing. So Haney was more of a "Shepherd" as he claimed. You can see Haney controlling the workouts with Ty in his famous Olympia Workout Video, training for 1988 Mr Olympia competition

freaky abs
26-09-2011, 08:26 PM
Usually, the guy will train someone 'below them' and hire someone 'above them' so to speak. So usually its not weird. For example, often times, pros will train amateurs, or even national level guys. But they are getting trained by 'pro trainers'. So in that sense, it makes sense. For example, micheal phelps could have probably given me a few tips on how to swim when I was a kid, but he needs a coach to get him to winning multiple golds.

I do know some examples where I know what you mean though...I am seeing alot of that with figure girls these days. Seems everyone has a 'team' of girls they train these days, when half the ones they are taining are just as good as them - and they aren't that good, lol.
Should amateurs demand top 3 placing in a competition if they are trained by pros? Should it be top 3 guarantee or your money back.

freaky abs
26-09-2011, 08:37 PM
Well Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and Kai Green use coaches (top 3 guys in bodybuilding). It's weird how guys coach others and then pay someone to coach them. I understand having a second set of eyes and not having to think etc. But personally i coach myself. I don't think there's anything wrong with it mind you...i just don't understand it.
Delt King, some so call trainers learn from the pros, then applied what they learned to their clients. They are not original. They take credit for borrowed knowlege from the pros.

phatkid77
26-09-2011, 09:32 PM
Exactly.. So they pay say $5000 to be trained... And u can pay them 15-2000.. So u are in essence getting the knowledge.. Will it be applied anmd used as the original guy?? Maybe not
And demanding top 3 is silly.. Hope u r kidding.. U can only do so much with what you got... Nothing is guaranteed

Stunna
26-09-2011, 11:08 PM
All i know is i wish i gotten a trainer earlier instead of guessing and playing around for 4 years. You think you know something then you realize your ass is in the stone age and believe me i knew alot about certain aspects but you cant know it all. Now its easy for me to help someone get in shape and gauge them on a weekly basic. You can see what works for them cause not one approach works for everyone. For ex: i used to think i had to lower my carbs gradually to get in shape for show, so i get my first diet from George its like 300-400 carbs 20min cardio and protein real low. Im like you kidding me man and what do you know it worked amazingly cause the carb sources are very important so the diet does the work. Plus my stack was half the totals from previous years. Then in final weeks you can manipulate the carbs to dry out further etc but again doesn't work for everyone. I have ian eating 350g carbs now and hes doing no cardio but my other guy is doing hrs cardio and his fats are high and carbs next to none. Shit im blabbing and btw the london winner this year you will see i have him eating 400 carbs

JonnyO
27-09-2011, 12:56 AM
Should amateurs demand top 3 placing in a competition if they are trained by pros? Should it be top 3 guarantee or your money back.

That would be down right stupid. They hire a coach to get them in shape, a coach cannot all of a sudden turn someone into something they arent or arent meant to be or look like. Bring them in the shape of their lives and let the rest fall in the judges hands...thats all they can do and all someone looking for a coach should expect. But telling someone they are going to place top 3 guaranteed as a trainer is unrealistic, unless its an exceptional case.

steve_d
27-09-2011, 07:09 AM
Should amateurs demand top 3 placing in a competition if they are trained by pros? Should it be top 3 guarantee or your money back.

Is this directed to me?

The obvious answer is no. If a trainer wants to guarantee that, then fine...go for it. In fact, one could easily do that, then select the one guy who you pretty much know is top 3 material, and then use it as bragging rights to say 'my clients always get top 3'...In fact, many trainers do something along these lines (in the sense that they only train good people). But no, they likely don't have a guarantee in place. Unless they charge enough to make up for the times they don't have a top 3 finish, and only take on people that likely get top 3.

Obviously there is a business model that will accomodate any claim you wish to make...But its not something anyone will usually do.

bluenose
27-09-2011, 08:53 AM
Personally, I take those workout videos with a grain of salt.........This was Haney's workout video so it would be silly for Ty to be dictating to Haney what he should be doing. I was basically showing that every pro has someone that is in their corner helping them or confidant. Ty was Haney's guy and eye's.

Good debate guys. Ty "Ropeman" Felder was Lee Haney's training partner. Lee Haney controlled the workouts and decided what exercises they were doing. So Haney was more of a "Shepherd" as he claimed. You can see Haney controlling the workouts with Ty in his famous Olympia Workout Video, training for 1988 Mr Olympia competition

bluenose
27-09-2011, 09:03 AM
This whole stealing of ideas if you use another trainers dieting strategy I'm not sure if I would classify as stealing. These "gurus" or trainers all know one another for the most part and trade off ideas to an extent. Conversing back and forth with regards to stacks, training and diet to improve your own craft personally I dont think that is stealing. As a good trainer I would think this is a good idea to evolve and not stay in the dark ages with respect to how you train your clients.

Stunna
27-09-2011, 10:27 AM
This whole stealing of ideas if you use another trainers dieting strategy I'm not sure if I would classify as stealing. These "gurus" or trainers all know one another for the most part and trade off ideas to an extent. Conversing back and forth with regards to stacks, training and diet to improve your own craft personally I dont think that is stealing. As a good trainer I would think this is a good idea to evolve and not stay in the dark ages with respect to how you train your clients.

agreed, also people forget the best part of having a guru coach whatever is to have someone gauge you and provide un biased opinion. Doing it yourself can be done but there will be some doubt and mind games. Id rather put my trust in someone and have thhem pull me in the show. Having said that you shouldnt just blindly follow everything there should be constant communication back and forth feed back etc. Its a team effort

freaky abs
27-09-2011, 10:29 AM
This whole stealing of ideas if you use another trainers dieting strategy I'm not sure if I would classify as stealing. These "gurus" or trainers all know one another for the most part and trade off ideas to an extent. Conversing back and forth with regards to stacks, training and diet to improve your own craft personally I dont think that is stealing. As a good trainer I would think this is a good idea to evolve and not stay in the dark ages with respect to how you train your clients.
Some trainers specialize in just the client's training and workouts. Whilst others specialize in just pre-contest nutrition. Others do both training and nutrition. For example Charles Glass just train his clients and Chad Nichols did the nutrition for Charles Glass's clients. And Charles Glass is a good personal trainer. He is one of the top guys out there.

freaky abs
27-09-2011, 10:57 AM
Personally, I take those workout videos with a grain of salt.........This was Haney's workout video so it would be silly for Ty to be dictating to Haney what he should be doing. I was basically showing that every pro has someone that is in their corner helping them or confidant. Ty was Haney's guy and eye's.
If you watch the video, Ty "Ropeman" Felder said " I am happy to be training with Lee Haney, he corrects me and puts me on the right path" I think Rope was just happy to be training with Mr. Olympia and just followed along.

freaky abs
27-09-2011, 11:46 AM
Good discussion guys, but some of the best pros in the world never trained with a personal trainer. Lee Labrada, Shawn Ray or Markus Ruhl just to name a few. These guys were able to develop their physiques training themselves. I guess they are "Shepherds" as Lee Haney claimed. Sometimes you just have to give credit where credit is due.

Dryvrgrl
27-09-2011, 02:00 PM
back to the origninal topic for a second

Manitoba is sending

Joe Marcoux (classic)
John Wintrup (dont know the class),
Steve Marsh,
Debbie Rotoff,(womens HW)
Yvette Landry (womens lightweight)
Jamie Sheldon,
Ian birchall,
Darrell McDonald,
Paul Taylor.(classic)

leigh mollison has quit.. not competing.. just living off the divorce settlement she screwed me out of.. OOPS did i type that out loud... may she choke on it!!

Delt King
27-09-2011, 02:21 PM
Cool a couple more Classic victims...ooops i mean competitors. (did i type that out loud) lol


back to the origninal topic for a second

Manitoba is sending

Joe Marcoux (classic)
John Wintrup (dont know the class),
Steve Marsh,
Debbie Rotoff,(womens HW)
Yvette Landry (womens lightweight)
Jamie Sheldon,
Ian birchall,
Darrell McDonald,
Paul Taylor.(classic)

leigh mollison has quit.. not competing.. just living off the divorce settlement she screwed me out of.. OOPS did i type that out loud... may she choke on it!!

bluenose
27-09-2011, 02:39 PM
Since we are back on the original topic......Who will be the next Canadian Pro? In the last three years many of the big names have gone pro so what are peoples thoughts on this?

z83
27-09-2011, 02:51 PM
^^ Antoine Vaillant

Dryvrgrl
27-09-2011, 02:57 PM
welllll... since they pick the women first ;)
tara Siltzer is a fave if she brings in her condit...
if carmen is there id say watch for her
but Fabiola is gonna be hard to beat, especially with home town crowd

(ps... 3 top girls went Pro at Na's already this year... Canadian girls are ON FIRE)

Delt King
27-09-2011, 02:57 PM
My money is also on Antoine but still think that if he comes in much better condition than the NA Renaldo Gairy has a hell of a chance. Now i also think that on off chance both of those guys are off. Natenators boy Shannon poses a huge threat.

Stunna
27-09-2011, 03:58 PM
My money is also on Antoine but still think that if he comes in much better condition than the NA Renaldo Gairy has a hell of a chance. Now i also think that on off chance both of those guys are off. Natenators boy Shannon poses a huge threat.

I was at NA renaldos condition wasnt off I thought he looked better than previous year where he got like 3rd, he wasnt as crisp maybe in the glutes but he was still sharp enough and full, The NA criteria is a different one than here where its all pretty much condition based. I think his outty hernia is the issue where he was docked as he was told to get it fixed. Antoine well see alone he looks great but next to other guys who knows, thats why it will be a good show to see. Bravo will look good but i dont know if they would give it to him with his off stage issues

Stunna
27-09-2011, 04:00 PM
Who ever shows up with simon voyeur condition will win

natenator
27-09-2011, 04:07 PM
I was at NA renaldos condition wasnt off I thought he looked better than previous year where he got like 3rd, he wasnt as crisp maybe in the glutes but he was still sharp enough and full, The NA criteria is a different one than here where its all pretty much condition based. I think his outty hernia is the issue where he was docked as he was told to get it fixed. Antoine well see alone he looks great but next to other guys who knows, thats why it will be a good show to see. Bravo will look good but i dont know if they would give it to him with his off stage issues

I wonder if trophies are allowed in jail? lol

Stunna
27-09-2011, 04:16 PM
Lol i don't think cbbf would tie it's name with those issues
But trophies in jail would be a nice look

natenator
27-09-2011, 04:24 PM
Lol i don't think cbbf would tie it's name with those issues
But trophies in jail would be a nice look

To stay safe, he probably should have went the route of the grapefruit... LOL

bluenose
27-09-2011, 07:13 PM
Is Trent Walsh doing to Nats?

bluenose
27-09-2011, 07:16 PM
Lol i don't think cbbf would tie it's name with those issues
But trophies in jail would be a nice look

I forgot about that little issue.

Dryvrgrl
27-09-2011, 07:17 PM
add Ryan Malo to list of competitors..
and wendy mc master
Sharron Mould
Tana McGowen

Dryvrgrl
27-09-2011, 07:20 PM
Mich Roussin Ontario (my boyfriend)

natenator
27-09-2011, 07:29 PM
Mich Roussin Ontario (my boyfriend)

Back on the pipe again?

Dryvrgrl
27-09-2011, 07:31 PM
joanne williams (ont)
carol haney (ont)

Dryvrgrl
27-09-2011, 07:33 PM
Back on the pipe again?

yup yup.. after a year of thinking about it i met the right one.. :)

ps.. having the stupid Bi-atch sue me for 35 grand was sorta the deal cincher that chicks are WHACKED

Dryvrgrl
27-09-2011, 07:38 PM
double post sorry

MuSuLPhReAk
27-09-2011, 08:58 PM
Thanks Coco. I added everyone in.

Dryvrgrl
28-09-2011, 08:08 AM
Manitoba is sending

Joe Marcoux (classic)
John Wintrup (dont know the class),
Steve Marsh,
Debbie Rotoff,(womens HW)
Yvette Landry (womens lightweight)
Jamie Sheldon,
Ian birchall,
Darrell McDonald,
Paul Taylor.(classic)

leigh mollison has quit.. not competing.. just living off the divorce settlement she screwed me out of.. OOPS did i type that out loud... may she choke on it!!

MP!!.. missed these ones

Dryvrgrl
28-09-2011, 08:33 AM
im going out on a limb here.. but can i just say that Joe spinello HAS to move into modern ages as far as ticket sales go!
this whole "cash or money order thing" SUCKS.. i wanna KNOW where my ticket is and that my hundred plus dollars was recieved!
paypal accounts and ticketing services are GREAT inventions! im sure SOMEONE in quebec can figure the system out!

last natnls in laval we ordered tickets as SOON as they went on sale and ended up in the nose bleed even though there was empty seats near the front...

phatkid77
28-09-2011, 09:56 AM
Outrageous prices too...and the stupid "no cameras" allowed.. Gimme a break...

Dryvrgrl
28-09-2011, 02:40 PM
Dianne Fraser AB
Carmen tocheniuk (ab)

Stunna
28-09-2011, 03:00 PM
im going out on a limb here.. but can i just say that Joe spinello HAS to move into modern ages as far as ticket sales go!
this whole "cash or money order thing" SUCKS.. i wanna KNOW where my ticket is and that my hundred plus dollars was recieved!
paypal accounts and ticketing services are GREAT inventions! im sure SOMEONE in quebec can figure the system out!

last natnls in laval we ordered tickets as SOON as they went on sale and ended up in the nose bleed even though there was empty seats near the front...

Lol for real it's like these promoters never been to a well run show and taken some notes.

Surely there will be some mess ups

freaky abs
28-09-2011, 03:21 PM
Who do you think was the best Canadian Overall winner of all time? A lot of guys have won the Canadian Overall title like Nelson Da Silva, Santana Anderson, Mike Platz, Scott Milne, Freddy Antwi, Mike Van Wyck, Nimrod King etc. etc. etc. Who do you think looked the best?

BigGuns21
28-09-2011, 06:50 PM
Who do you think was the best Canadian Overall winner of all time? A lot of guys have won the Canadian Overall title like Nelson Da Silva, Santana Anderson, Mike Platz, Scott Milne, Freddy Antwi, Mike Van Wyck, Nimrod King etc. etc. etc. Who do you think looked the best?

Platz probably had one of the nicest physiques to win the Canadians, but also turned out to the the biggest waste of a procard ever won in Canada I think. Scott Milne not only never won an overall, he never won his class at Canadians, just one of the lucky few who got that 2nd card in 02 after Platz. At least he competed in an IFBB show though...next to all the legal issues. Lets not forget about Fouad, he looked really good when he won. PakMan definitely wins the best legs ever at Canadians contest. I personally don't think Van Wyck could have won against a Platz or Milne in their 02 shape. Tough call on the best ever...

dan1977
28-09-2011, 07:08 PM
I thought Da Silva looked pretty sick the year he won his pro card. Impressive he won the overall since he's such a short dude. Mcgrath, Voyer, etc... hard to tell who's the best, it's a very subjective choice IMO.

steve_d
28-09-2011, 07:52 PM
Platz probably had one of the nicest physiques to win the Canadians, but also turned out to the the biggest waste of a procard ever won in Canada I think. Scott Milne not only never won an overall, he never won his class at Canadians, just one of the lucky few who got that 2nd card in 02 after Platz. At least he competed in an IFBB show though...next to all the legal issues. Lets not forget about Fouad, he looked really good when he won. PakMan definitely wins the best legs ever at Canadians contest. I personally don't think Van Wyck could have won against a Platz or Milne in their 02 shape. Tough call on the best ever...

Platz deserved to win not only the year he won, but the year before IMO. I don't really remember a better physique winning.

fitbody
28-09-2011, 09:54 PM
BC BEEF: Dawn Alison
Grand Masters & Heavyweight Women
15 days out

Dryvrgrl
29-09-2011, 09:36 AM
Who do you think was the best Canadian Overall winner of all time? A lot of guys have won the Canadian Overall title like Nelson Da Silva, Santana Anderson, Mike Platz, Scott Milne, Freddy Antwi, Mike Van Wyck, Nimrod King etc. etc. etc. Who do you think looked the best?

Nicole Ball

freaky abs
29-09-2011, 09:38 AM
Platz deserved to win not only the year he won, but the year before IMO. I don't really remember a better physique winning.
I think Mike Platz had the best physique.

blp
29-09-2011, 11:33 AM
ben pakulski

freaky abs
29-09-2011, 12:14 PM
ben pakulski
Ben had the best legs and calves, but Mike Platz had a better overall physique. Ben was weak in the back.

Stunna
29-09-2011, 01:14 PM
Platz had a great package he told me scot miline should have won that overall he was like 300 inshape.
Alot of guys put so much into getting pro that once they are they are burned out.
Rob another guy got second place in SHW was mike aseido got his pro card behind the class winner and oversell.
Too bad they don't have that rule now it should be best 2 guys regardless of where thy are. Oh and frank was straught animal when he won and His first pro shows , I loved his look.
Fouad turned pro @ 227 now he's improved immensely.

steve_d
29-09-2011, 02:06 PM
Platz had a great package he told me scot miline should have won that overall he was like 300 inshape.
Alot of guys put so much into getting pro that once they are they are burned out.
Rob another guy got second place in SHW was mike aseido got his pro card behind the class winner and oversell.
Too bad they don't have that rule now it should be best 2 guys regardless of where thy are. Oh and frank was straught animal when he won and His first pro shows , I loved his look.
Fouad turned pro @ 227 now he's improved immensely.

Platz might have said that, but he was just being humble - which I found he really is. Scott didn't even get 2nd place votes by all the judges. Mike won that one hands down

blp
29-09-2011, 03:33 PM
Ben had the best legs and calves, but Mike Platz had a better overall physique. Ben was weak in the back.

maybe ben qualify olympia not far after n had injury , ben p at side of branch warren did not look small , ben p make nice cover mag , ben p have a great media personality , is national condition was insane

blp
29-09-2011, 03:35 PM
I thought Da Silva looked pretty sick the year he won his pro card. Impressive he won the overall since he's such a short dude. Mcgrath, Voyer, etc... hard to tell who's the best, it's a very subjective choice IMO.

true,,, i forget simon voyer ,,,, my god he look freaky ripped at national

Stunna
29-09-2011, 04:00 PM
lol true i wasnt there i was just a baby then, but ive always had good talks with Mike he always told me id be a great pro when i won kingston as a 172lbs lol back in 03.

Stunna
29-09-2011, 04:05 PM
Ben was great when he won his glutes were even striated , that was a good show dont forget mboya looked nuts in LHW he was like made of granite. Im glad he got his card there too cause the mans put in his time and now hes an olympian. Bens made crazy improvments back thickness width even arms. Good to see him do well

BigGuns21
29-09-2011, 04:11 PM
Platz might have said that, but he was just being humble - which I found he really is. Scott didn't even get 2nd place votes by all the judges. Mike won that one hands down

This is true, if I'm not mistaken Platz had 1st from every judge in 02, it was a hands down win.

freaky abs
29-09-2011, 05:31 PM
Platz might have said that, but he was just being humble - which I found he really is. Scott didn't even get 2nd place votes by all the judges. Mike won that one hands down
Of course Mike was just being humble. That is the kind of guy he is. 2002 was not the first time that Mike beat Scott in the super heavyweight class. He beat Scott the year before in 2001 in the same super heavyweight class. Mike won in 2002, no doubt about it. That is the year they started giving out 2nd Pro cards and it went to Scott.

bluenose
29-09-2011, 08:25 PM
So, why did Platz stop after turning pro?

phatkid77
29-09-2011, 08:49 PM
Hear a "tiger" was coming...lol

bluenose
29-09-2011, 09:37 PM
Lol..... Yes, I forgot for a second about "Team Water Buff" nippin away Phats.

Stunna
30-09-2011, 01:29 AM
10 days till eating

freaky abs
30-09-2011, 09:50 AM
true,,, i forget simon voyer ,,,, my god he look freaky ripped at national
I remember Simon Voyer, but he came in 8th Light heavyweight in 2002, the same year year that Mike Platz won the overall and his Pro card. No match for Mike Platz.

freaky abs
30-09-2011, 09:54 AM
Nicole Ball
Okay the women's overall winners. Nicole Ball looked good, but I think that Louise St. Pierre looked better. She won the overall in 2004.

steve_d
30-09-2011, 10:12 AM
I remember Simon Voyer, but he came in 8th Light heavyweight in 2002, the same year year that Mike Platz won the overall and his Pro card. No match for Mike Platz.

No, he probably wasn't a match looking the way he did when he won, but you can't compare what he looked like the year before. Unfair comparison. That's similar to saying ronnie is no match for Dorian since he only came like 9th the year before he won the olympia. Or maybe we can throw Reza in the mix as one of the top to win canadian, considering he too beat platz!

But still the '02 Platz beats the '03 Voyer by a fair margin. 2nd place I would give to Ben Pak. 3rd De Silva.

steve_d
30-09-2011, 10:16 AM
Okay the women's overall winners. Nicole Ball looked good, but I think that Louise St. Pierre looked better. She won the overall in 2004.

on women's side, I really liked autumn raby when she won...Never was much a fan of nicole ball at that time...better now though.

Cindy philips if she could have every gotten lean.

freaky abs
30-09-2011, 10:22 AM
No, he probably wasn't a match looking the way he did when he won, but you can't compare what he looked like the year before. Unfair comparison. That's similar to saying ronnie is no match for Dorian since he only came like 9th the year before he won the olympia. Or maybe we can throw Reza in the mix as one of the top to win canadian, considering he too beat platz!

But still the '02 Platz beats the '03 Voyer by a fair margin. 2nd place I would give to Ben Pak. 3rd De Silva.
I believe Simon Voyer won the overall in 2005.

steve_d
30-09-2011, 11:41 AM
I believe Simon Voyer won the overall in 2005.

yes typo...I watched him...Same year Raby won, in MTL. one of the few nationals I saw live.

Also was there in halifax in '01, and watched my bro in vancouver, in '09. Seems like the pattern is every 4th year I am there! Can't wait till 2012 when I am on stage finally.

loutfi
30-09-2011, 12:14 PM
10 days till eating

looking good Hassan machallah.
Chest full and physic looks very tight !

Stunna
30-09-2011, 01:23 PM
Keifak loutfi how u feeling? Inshallah all good see you soon

loutfi
30-09-2011, 03:51 PM
I'm feeling almost ready, it wasn't easy but i'm on the way to get ripped inchallah.

freaky abs
30-09-2011, 06:05 PM
No, he probably wasn't a match looking the way he did when he won, but you can't compare what he looked like the year before. Unfair comparison. That's similar to saying ronnie is no match for Dorian since he only came like 9th the year before he won the olympia. Or maybe we can throw Reza in the mix as one of the top to win canadian, considering he too beat platz!

But still the '02 Platz beats the '03 Voyer by a fair margin. 2nd place I would give to Ben Pak. 3rd De Silva.
Best Overall Canadian champion. 1st place I give to Mike Platz. 2nd place Nelson Da Silva. This guy won the 2001 Ontario Overalls at his first try. That same year he won the 2001 Canadian Overalls at his first try. That was great. I know a lot of people thought Mike Platz should have won the overall that year. It was very close. 3rd place Scott Milne. He was big and massive. Never won the overall, but got a pro card. 4th place Nimrod King. He was before our time. I saw pictures of him winning both the Canadian Championships and the North Americans Overall in 1988. He was big, ripped and thick. He did did well as a Pro in the 90's.

dan1977
30-09-2011, 10:09 PM
Out of topic and for the sake of curiosity, for all the competitors coming down to Laval, are you guys all dropping your own money to go down there or you have some sponsorship?

For people in the west, that must be a really expensive experience.

loutfi
01-10-2011, 11:48 AM
It's exactly in the topic Dan1977. What is not in the topic is all the pages where people are talking about Canadians of past year or to have a coach or not having a coach ...
Like you are talking about Canadian "2011" yes you're exactly in the topic.

Personnaly my store and my appartement are very close to the show, same city, just a 2 streets and 2mn to drive from where i live.
Last year it was a lot of money to pay for my hotel and plane to saskatoon and no sponsor ...from my pocket.

freaky abs
01-10-2011, 12:19 PM
It's exactly in the topic Dan1977. What is not in the topic is all the pages where people are talking about Canadians of past year or to have a coach or not having a coach ...
Like you are talking about Canadian "2011" yes you're exactly in the topic.

Personnaly my store and my appartement are very close to the show, same city, just a 2 streets and 2mn to drive from where i live.
Last year it was a lot of money to pay for my hotel and plane to saskatoon and no sponsor ...from my pocket.
I disagree. When a event like the Mr. Olympia approaches, commentators always talk about the history of the Mr. Olympia and who the past champions were. They talk about the best past olympians. The Canadian Championships is on October 9th. So it is a good idea to talk about past overall champions and past Pro card winners. If competitors doing the show want to talk about whether they use personal trainers or not to get ready for the show, that should be welcome. It is all part of the Canadian Championships.

Mr.Freeze
01-10-2011, 12:38 PM
Vaillant at 9 days from the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FF8PBmiKfw

MuSuLPhReAk
01-10-2011, 01:44 PM
Updated the first post with all the new additions. Thanks again Dryvrgrl

BigGuns21
01-10-2011, 03:16 PM
Those hyper's at the end of a workout were no joke!

natenator
01-10-2011, 05:12 PM
Those hyper's at the end of a workout were no joke!

no shit. I was more impressed with that than anything else he's posted up so far lol

Stunna
01-10-2011, 06:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKaioQhaps

Delt training about a week ago lets get it

Andre Gregoire
01-10-2011, 07:24 PM
Delt training about a week ago lets get it

Sick back pic, Hassan!

steve_d
01-10-2011, 08:29 PM
Those hyper's at the end of a workout were no joke!

They were impressive, although, I wonder the point of them? It seemed like a lot of work holding 3 plates, whereas he could have felt the burn just as hard with 3x25s if he held them at his chest like he did on the last set with no weight...Just the physics of it I noticed right off. I am not saying what he did wasn't hard, I just think it would be easier to guage what he was actually doing, (for future workout consistency) if he held it at his chest.

freaky abs
01-10-2011, 08:40 PM
Those hyper's at the end of a workout were no joke!
Yes he was pretty cocky at the end of the workout (8.07 - 8.52).

loutfi
01-10-2011, 09:21 PM
very good video Hassan, i like the style.
maybe a little too much music. tilapia seems to be the best friend of bodybuilders dieting.
i take it also a lot, 3 times a day everyday.

MuSuLPhReAk
01-10-2011, 10:29 PM
Big props to you guys who are making vids and putting work into them to make them entertaining. Respect for all the dedication involved with keeping it together at this point of the prep and doing something more for those of us watching.

Stunna
02-10-2011, 05:46 AM
very good video Hassan, i like the style.
maybe a little too much music. tilapia seems to be the best friend of bodybuilders dieting.
i take it also a lot, 3 times a day everyday.

thanks Loutfi, it was my friends first time doing this type of video hes really a music producer. For the next ones well have some funny stuff more talk less music. as for tilapia its just that and chicken now but i dont mind. I was gettting sick of chewing the rock hard dry ass steak ahha

dan1977
02-10-2011, 07:51 AM
Stunna, which gym in Ottawa you training at, very nice equipment?

Very cool vid, the back looks amazing!

Stunna
02-10-2011, 08:16 AM
Stunna, which gym in Ottawa you training at, very nice equipment?

Very cool vid, the back looks amazing!

sup dan, I mostly use hazeldene good life or Scotiabank place YMCA(got the old Merivale Y stuff and its damn empty). I work in Kanata so i train during work hours but every few times i like to go New body dimensions for a change. Thats the gym in the video. Ottawa is terrible for gyms man we have all these new massive facilities but the design and setup is not bodybuilder/powerlifted intended so the shit is depressing soon as you walk in.

dan1977
02-10-2011, 08:41 AM
I've been going to Gym Max in Gatineau. Only gym opened 24/5 which is great but so packed during peak hours you can't get anything done. Never been to the one he opened on Hunt Club though. Don't know if it's gossiping but seems he losing his shirt to keep it running.

I know what you mean about the bodybuilder/powerlifters type of gym, the main market is the regular joe who quits within 3 months, that's lucrative business.

Stunna
02-10-2011, 10:46 AM
I've been going to Gym Max in Gatineau. Only gym opened 24/5 which is great but so packed during peak hours you can't get anything done. Never been to the one he opened on Hunt Club though. Don't know if it's gossiping but seems he losing his shirt to keep it running.

I know what you mean about the bodybuilder/powerlifters type of gym, the main market is the regular joe who quits within 3 months, that's lucrative business.

ah well gotta work with what you got, btw this is dan G right? man that good life st laurent mall is terrible for me lol

BigGuns21
02-10-2011, 11:55 AM
I've been going to Gym Max in Gatineau. Only gym opened 24/5 which is great but so packed during peak hours you can't get anything done. Never been to the one he opened on Hunt Club though. Don't know if it's gossiping but seems he losing his shirt to keep it running.

I know what you mean about the bodybuilder/powerlifters type of gym, the main market is the regular joe who quits within 3 months, that's lucrative business.

Only gym in Gatineau opened 24/5 you mean right? Both GL (certain locations) and the new Athletic clubs are that way too if you didn't know. I've trained at both Gym Max's. Gatineau has that hard core atmosphere, Ottawa does not and the t-shirt only rule has actually cost him business. Even athletic club changed their policy about that 2 weeks ago. As for him losing his shirt, I'd bet dimes to dollars the rumor is true. His first indication it wasn't going to workout should have been watching Florida Fitness go bankrupt 3x in 10 years trying to stay open there. Did he think his approach would be any different? Especailly when he deterred all the hard core members right off the bat with the no tank or cut off rule and having one of the busier GL's within spitting distance ain't helping either.

JonnyO
02-10-2011, 01:59 PM
I see Antoine is rockin' the Mountaindog training.

dan1977
02-10-2011, 03:39 PM
Only gym in Gatineau opened 24/5 you mean right? Both GL (certain locations) and the new Athletic clubs are that way too if you didn't know. I've trained at both Gym Max's. Gatineau has that hard core atmosphere, Ottawa does not and the t-shirt only rule has actually cost him business. Even athletic club changed their policy about that 2 weeks ago. As for him losing his shirt, I'd bet dimes to dollars the rumor is true. His first indication it wasn't going to workout should have been watching Florida Fitness go bankrupt 3x in 10 years trying to stay open there. Did he think his approach would be any different? Especailly when he deterred all the hard core members right off the bat with the no tank or cut off rule and having one of the busier GL's within spitting distance ain't helping either.

Yes in Gatineau, I'm already 10-15 minutes away from the one in Gatineau, wouldn't have time to make it to Ottawa. Rumors I heard was he's paying about 50K in rent for the one in Ottawa, does that make sense? IHow could you ever make any profit with such overhead? It used to be a lot better in the past in Gatineau, now it's basically a fashion show with people talking on their phone hogging spots. Was fun when they had the Hugo Girard, Dominic Filiou et Jessen Paulin around. Damn impressive the see those beasts in action. Saw Girard pull a 850+ squat way back, that was something else.



ah well gotta work with what you got, btw this is dan G right? man that good life st laurent mall is terrible for me lol

Wrong dude Stunna, we don't know each other, just thought the gym in your video looked cool.

fitfanatik
02-10-2011, 07:33 PM
Out of topic and for the sake of curiosity, for all the competitors coming down to Laval, are you guys all dropping your own money to go down there or you have some sponsorship?

For people in the west, that must be a really expensive experience.

Sure is! Literally a couple G to do it right.
A plane ticket out of Vancouver was $620. Car rental $200. Fuel $100. Hotel $350. Food...hmm? Misc $200-300.
I'll be there wed-tues for the first time, with very few french words...I heard the call-outs are in french?

Thankfully the owner of GOLDS GYM BURNABY/KAMLOOPS/QUESNEL B.C.

.....gave me $750.00 in bonuses on my last 2 pay cheques!!!!

Patrick Neadow is good people...much respect!


I can not say enough good things about what GOLDS GYM BURNABY has to offer!
Come on down for a crazy training session...we have Octane/Bonyard on sirius cranked!
There are literally dozens of competitors that train there...3 from my weight class...Mr. Loo...Dimitri and Don Webber.
Thanks for the inspiration guys! Lots Guys 5 weeks out from the Sandra Wickham as well...then B.C.s...then NATS AUG 18/12...MY bday aug 19...hmm

Here's Pat squatting 405 the other day at 52 years old. He spent years at Golds in Cali...knew Dan Duchaine. Still Talks to Bill Pearl among others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSkB4idr-8&feature=channel_video_title
...that was after a long day of moving gym equipment.

Here's the gym for those that want a peek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_jGXp0VEM&feature=relmfu

ahhh...1 more shift at work then we kick it up another notch!

I hear ProGym in Montreal is MASSIVE and has a buffet attached?

Also any good locations for a photoshoot?

...so many questions and all I am gonna hear is F r E n C h...better get back to my homework!!!

LESS THAN A WEEK TO GO-THEN WE FEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:goodluck:yeah:fwave:a+:beer

MuSuLPhReAk
02-10-2011, 08:24 PM
That was a great thing he did. Will you be staying in a hotel in Laval or on the island of Montreal?

Mr.Freeze
02-10-2011, 08:28 PM
Yes Progym is massive! its over 70,000sqft of equipment only, no swimming pool, tennis court or what ever, just traning equipment.
There is a place to eat but its not a buffet, just a small place were you can get something healthy to chew on.

For the call out, im pretty sure they do it in french and english.

fitfanatik
02-10-2011, 08:28 PM
That was a great thing he did. Will you be staying in a hotel in Laval or on the island of Montreal?
I'll be in Montreals westmount area? 16km from airport and 16km over bridge to laval. I found a place on this site>>> airbnb.com/search

fitfanatik
02-10-2011, 08:33 PM
Yes Progym is massive! its over 70,000sqft of equipment only, no swimming pool, tennis court or what ever, just traning equipment.
There is a place to eat but its not a buffet, just a small place were you can get something healthy to chew on.

For the call out, im pretty sure they do it in french and english.

Awesome! I cant hardly wait!
I don't think I'll be sleeping for the next 7 nights!!!!

MuSuLPhReAk
02-10-2011, 08:58 PM
You're probably close to highway 15 which will take you directly near the show. Some good eats in Laval if you're into restaurants. If you do some shopping in Laval, go to the shopping center on the other side of the 15, it's much bigger and has a food court. Haven't been there in quite some time but there was a burger joint in that shopping center with Triple A beef patties and you can stack them 2-3 high.

Better to go downtown for some shopping around. You are not far from it. Take the subway and leave the rental at the hotel. Downtown is designed kinda cool. Most of the shopping areas you can get to from underground and the subway takes you right into it. It's all interconnected. Good if it's a cold rainy day.

To get to progym from your area, you can grab Sherbrooke or the 720 east (which turns into Notre-Dame). Progym is about the same distance from either road but less red lights on the 720. As for a good place for photoshoots it really would depend on what setting your looking for (and the weather). October is usually cool and overcast so plan accordingly.

For the language thing it's really not that bad. If people know your a tourist, they'll try to help. If you divide the island using highway 15, the more east you go the more French it will be, the more west you go the more English it will be. Downtown is mostly bilingual. Laval is mixed but a bit predominatly french in the vacinity of the show. There are areas which are more english in Laval. At the show you should have no problems. Most will be bilingual so you'll be able to communicate with just about everyone.

MuSuLPhReAk
02-10-2011, 09:04 PM
Also at Progym you may run into some former Mr. Canada's and IFBB Pro's.

fitfanatik
02-10-2011, 09:08 PM
Also at Progym you may run into some former Mr. Canada's and IFBB Pro's.

Thanks for the tips! I'll be there in 72 hours!!!
o m g

MuSuLPhReAk
02-10-2011, 09:18 PM
Mark St. Arnaud from BC will be doing the show also. Just added him to the list.

dan1977
02-10-2011, 09:41 PM
You'll do fine, Montreal is pretty much bilingual and they'll try to serve you in your language. Last time I went on St-Catherines, I only heard english people. Or better yet, drag Loutfi with you, he's french. :p

Easy to locate Pro-Gym, it's literally 2 minutes from the Olympic Stadium which could be a cool place for a photoshoot. I usually use www.tripadvisor.com for advice on Restaurant/Things-to-do. Very helpful.

Bonne chance à vous tous mes ami(e)s, vous allez apprécier une des villes les plus appréciée au monde.

Dryvrgrl
03-10-2011, 07:35 AM
Sucks.. just ffricken sucks

ill be dietting AND trying to get my lifts in..
i really wanna be competing
next year
grumble grumble

loutfi
03-10-2011, 01:16 PM
You'll do fine, Montreal is pretty much bilingual and they'll try to serve you in your language. Last time I went on St-Catherines, I only heard english people. Or better yet, drag Loutfi with you, he's french. :p

Easy to locate Pro-Gym, it's literally 2 minutes from the Olympic Stadium which could be a cool place for a photoshoot. I usually use www.tripadvisor.com for advice on Restaurant/Things-to-do. Very helpful.

Bonne chance à vous tous mes ami(e)s, vous allez apprécier une des villes les plus appréciée au monde.

Yes, i speak english and french plus my store is very close to the show. 352 cartier ouest ;-)

fmrdh
03-10-2011, 03:57 PM
Anyone who is competing.... have you planned your post contest meal yet?

Maybe some of the locals let us know about the good places to go :)

phatkid77
03-10-2011, 07:15 PM
A. I hear a steve charbonneau from brockville is competing
B. Who will be covering this..MD or anyone with prejudging photos?? Something!!?? Or is this mickyfackinmouse

Stunna
03-10-2011, 07:51 PM
MCDONALDS and wake up looking spectacular for photoshoot

Delt King
03-10-2011, 08:59 PM
Probably pizza and pie. Is there an official after party place? Anything even open 11pm on a sunday night?

phatkid77
03-10-2011, 09:04 PM
Anyone!? Does anyone know if there will be coverage of this event?? PICS and such..

MuSuLPhReAk
03-10-2011, 09:16 PM
Probably MD, RX and MI will cover the show in terms of pics.
Discussion usually here and facebook.

MuSuLPhReAk
03-10-2011, 09:35 PM
Probably pizza and pie. Is there an official after party place? Anything even open 11pm on a sunday night?

Hmmm...good point. Falls on an weird day this year. Downtown will be your safest bet for clubs being open on a Sunday night. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they will be open since Monday is a holiday.

I haven't heard of an official after party place (yet) but someone with connections to clubs that would accommodate would be a savior here. Imagine the faces of the bouncers at a random club if 80 muscle heads bigger than them walk in..lol

blp
03-10-2011, 09:36 PM
jerome bravo at 280 one week out

Check out this video on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKmquKeTpcE


Sent from my iPhone

phatkid77
03-10-2011, 09:53 PM
Does he look better on the computer? Looked soft on my phone..huge tho!

MuSuLPhReAk
03-10-2011, 10:12 PM
Dang. He's got bowling balls on his shoulders. This year is very hard to predict the new IFBB Pro's. Anyone want to take a stab at guessing. For men the guys that I know are dangerous; Antoine Vaillant (if he comes in the same condition as the Arnold's or better), Jerome, Marlon, Hassan with that last vid he put up, Loutfi last years winner, curious to see how his conditioning is going to be like. Renaldo Gairy is always dangerous and Ted Trush is banging away with untold months of dieting to get ready for this show. He's as hungry as they come. Ram Gill being trained by a respected vet here has got a shot at this too. Andrew Dudka comes in near perfect condition all the time. Will be interesting to see what package he brings this time.

Then we got so many new comers with tons of potential that I haven't seen any updated pics recently. Tim Love being trained by Lou Joseph is looking great, Danny Garon will step on the National stage for the first time. Interesting to see how he will look beside the other competitors. Matt Tavolieri has been quite of late so don't know how he's doing but it'll be his first national show. Wish him luck. Leo Difruscia making a showing after a number of years off. No clue what he looks like but he's a respected trainer so he knows what he's doing. Dave Mitchell making his first showing too I believe, he has great genetics. Can't confirm if John Aiello will be there but he'd be a force if he shows up. Another one with crazy genetics. Jerry Poirier will be defending his Classic Tall title. Good luck Jerry. Not taking anything away from the other competitors that will be at the show. These are the ones I know mostly through word of mouth, pics, physical presence and stuff put on CBB or facebook so I can comment on them.

As for the ladies, of course Fabiola will be a contender for that pro card as she came very close last year. Anyone being trained by Helen Bouchard will be dangerous too as she produces what I call dark horses. You don't hear much about them and all of a sudden they come out and bang...walk away with a win and/or a pro card. And not to confuse this with any politics (like what happened last year here) I believe it is the condition of the athlete that produces the win. Not the name of who trained her. Wendy McMaster has the most muscle I've seen on woman in a long time. A lot of guys would be envious of her arms. Dawn Alison is looking sick muscular, good to see Carmen Tocheniuk back. Have no clue how she looks like at the moment. Lisa Giesbrecht from BC reminds me a bit of Zoa Linsey and we all know Zoa is now an IFBB Pro. Tough call this year. No clear winner before going into the show. But I'd be interested to see if someone could forecast a winner.

blp
04-10-2011, 01:31 AM
martin allard will get th master pro card

he' like 175 or something so wide , he' look super heavy

a one who should b great , marko zaborak , first light heavy last year, thickness of a tank , if that guy come at 210 full condition at 5'6 lol

jerome should win this , he look ridiculous , even me i fell like a kid close to him

natenator
04-10-2011, 06:32 AM
jerome should win this , he look ridiculous , even me i fell like a kid close to him

Lets hope not

Delt King
04-10-2011, 10:22 AM
Now those are some shoulders!!! I guess we will see what the rest of him looks like when he's compared to Antoine though.


jerome bravo at 280 one week out

Check out this video on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKmquKeTpcE


Sent from my iPhone

JonnyO
04-10-2011, 11:25 AM
As for the ladies, of course Fabiola will be a contender for that pro card as she came very close last year. Anyone being trained by Helen Bouchard will be dangerous too as she produces what I call dark horses. You don't hear much about them and all of a sudden they come out and bang...walk away with a win and/or a pro card. And not to confuse this with any politics (like what happened last year here) I believe it is the condition of the athlete that produces the win. Not the name of who trained her. Wendy McMaster has the most muscle I've seen on woman in a long time. A lot of guys would be envious of her arms. Dawn Alison is looking sick muscular, good to see Carmen Tocheniuk back. Have no clue how she looks like at the moment. Lisa Giesbrecht from BC reminds me a bit of Zoa Linsey and we all know Zoa is now an IFBB Pro. Tough call this year. No clear winner before going into the show. But I'd be interested to see if someone could forecast a winner.

Nancy Clark from BC (Razorsedge's wife) is doing the show, she cleaned house at this year's BC Provincials. She looks SICK right now. She's doing Grand Masters and Womens Heavyweight.

Dryvrgrl
04-10-2011, 11:43 AM
Nancy Clark from BC (Razorsedge's wife) is doing the show, she cleaned house at this year's BC Provincials. She looks SICK right now. She's doing Grand Masters and Womens Heavyweight.

my thought is judging will go more to someone with her shape.. or lisa or carmen
pregnant bellies look not so good on pregnant women, never mind on stage condition Bodybuilders...

blp
04-10-2011, 11:54 AM
Lets hope not

haha it's not a personality contest

he's a nicer men then he was

anw we all know what it' take to get there n many out of this will get one of a kind behavior

JonnyO
04-10-2011, 12:12 PM
my thought is judging will go more to someone with her shape.. or lisa or carmen
pregnant bellies look not so good on pregnant women, never mind on stage condition Bodybuilders...

I sure hope so, all three ladies you mention do have nice structure and are very balanced.

At this point Nancy is already lower that what she weighed in at the Provincials and we're very happy that means she will be even more conditioned and she even brought up some areas that we thought needed to be since her last show too.

We are all pretty excited. I fly in Friday morning and will meet with Nancy and Ram see how things are. Razorsedge was kind enough to pay for my flight to Montreal and Ram booked the hotel rooms of all of us so we're all side by side during our stay.

JonnyO
04-10-2011, 12:13 PM
jerome bravo at 280 one week out

Check out this video on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKmquKeTpcE




Sent from my iPhone

Those are some boulder shoulders right there!

Dryvrgrl
04-10-2011, 12:17 PM
I sure hope so, all three ladies you mention do have nice structure and are very balanced.

At this point Nancy is already lower that what she weighed in at the Provincials and we're very happy that means she will be even more conditioned and she even brought up some areas that we thought needed to be since her last show too.

We are all pretty excited. I fly in Friday morning and will meet with Nancy and Ram see how things are. Razorsedge was kind enough to pay for my flight to Montreal and Ram booked the hotel rooms of all of us so we're all side by side during our stay.

ill be there sat afternoon!.. id love to say hi in real life!.. sun ill be at am and pm shows! im dietting tho or id go eat with y'all lol..

JonnyO
04-10-2011, 12:58 PM
ill be there sat afternoon!.. id love to say hi in real life!.. sun ill be at am and pm shows! im dietting tho or id go eat with y'all lol..

Yeah look for us. Too bad your dieting, no cheat meal at all?

Dryvrgrl
04-10-2011, 01:11 PM
nope.. i can have salad and fish or chicken tho!! lol mmmm

fmrdh
04-10-2011, 03:00 PM
No competitors from SK?

razorsedge
04-10-2011, 08:32 PM
ill be there sat afternoon!.. id love to say hi in real life!.. sun ill be at am and pm shows! im dietting tho or id go eat with y'all lol..

Hey there dryvrgrl...haven't been on in a bit...hiding out in NS training out here to get away from the gawkers..lol..u better look us up and have a visit...and don't go throwin us in the pool with some of these vets u guys..we're goin in there with our eyes wide open..we'll compete hard and make some noise and let's leave it at that but thanks for talkin about us..lol. Watch out for Rammer on the guys side tho..saw his latest pics..yikes!!

Dryvrgrl
04-10-2011, 09:26 PM
Hey there dryvrgrl...haven't been on in a bit...hiding out in NS training out here to get away from the gawkers..lol..u better look us up and have a visit...and don't go throwin us in the pool with some of these vets u guys..we're goin in there with our eyes wide open..we'll compete hard and make some noise and let's leave it at that but thanks for talkin about us..lol. Watch out for Rammer on the guys side tho..saw his latest pics..yikes!!

OK ill be the tattood one with the little muscles!!!!! IF YOPU SEEE ME say hi cuz i can really only see about 10 feet in front of me

Maria
04-10-2011, 09:55 PM
The Official restaurant is the Baton Rouge Restaurant & Bar. It's near the host hotel.

You can read the info here at this web site. It's got everything on there.

cbbfnationals.com/

blp
05-10-2011, 12:22 AM
khaled light heavy

Stunna
05-10-2011, 02:13 AM
Almost game time, cant wait to have some carbs

razorsedge
05-10-2011, 05:57 AM
Great V Stunna....man small waist and great thickness..looking great bro

razorsedge
05-10-2011, 06:00 AM
khaled light heavy

Wow again...the mens comp is gonna be great this year...lookin great here too..the physiques shown here so far are outstanding and Canada will have some very up and coming young pro after this show...

fitfanatik
05-10-2011, 08:42 AM
You'll do fine, Montreal is pretty much bilingual and they'll try to serve you in your language. Last time I went on St-Catherines, I only heard english people. Or better yet, drag Loutfi with you, he's french. :p

Easy to locate Pro-Gym, it's literally 2 minutes from the Olympic Stadium which could be a cool place for a photoshoot. I usually use www.tripadvisor.com for advice on Restaurant/Things-to-do. Very helpful.

Bonne chance à vous tous mes ami(e)s, vous allez apprécier une des villes les plus appréciée au monde.

Thanks for your help. I will have to stop by and see Loutfi at his supp shop...any clothing there?

Here's a pic or 3 from 8 days out...tick tock...
27888
27889
27890
..well I have a plane to catch.

See you all at the weigh-in!!!

loutfi
05-10-2011, 12:57 PM
I'm not sure i will be at my store the day of the show. but we never know.
and no, not clothes yet.
look great see you at weight in.

The battle has really begin, some great pics we have.
Good luck to all competitors it's gonna be a great show i think.

loutfi
05-10-2011, 12:58 PM
Hassan your back lat spread is f... crazy man !

Stunna
05-10-2011, 01:57 PM
Hassan your back lat spread is f... crazy man !

Thanks man it's hard to hit it right on the stage lol wish I could see myself do it

NorthernM
06-10-2011, 02:28 AM
Sorry for the stupid question (first time coming to Laval), but what is the preferred way to get to the venue in Montmorency College from the official hotel? I was thinking of renting a car, but not sure. Is public transportation a better idea?

Thanks!

Stunna
06-10-2011, 02:46 AM
Sorry for the stupid question (first time coming to Laval), but what is the preferred way to get to the venue in Montmorency College from the official hotel? I was thinking of renting a car, but not sure. Is public transportation a better idea?

Thanks!

Google maps

i figured id do the work for you so assuming you are wanting to leave 9am Sunday from hotel here is a bus option.

Start: Sheraton Laval

Walk to Terminus Le Carrefour Quai:6 [44139]
About 6 mins (500 m)
Terminus Le Carrefour Quai:6 [44139] Stop ID: 44139
Take 39 Bus towards Terminus Bienville [49039]
9:32am - 9:41am (9 mins, 10 stops)

De L'avenir / Jacques-Tétreault [46443] Stop ID: 46443
Walk to Finish: Collège Montmorency (CEGEP)
About 2 mins (160 m)

blp
06-10-2011, 02:49 AM
it's about 12$ by cab / i guess rent a car make sense / laval it in suburb it's kinda boring lol
if plan enjoy montreal downtown why not..

sunday it's black n blue party a all night til 11am rave of 5000ppls

club wise muzique on st laurent it's th most popular trend club venue on sunday

i b your host but after prejudgin goin paris/london

montreal a poor but a fun one !

ther's nothing to do in laval haha

th cegep tho ..close to subway terminal n that bring you everywhere easier not th hotel sheraton but all over montreal