2011 CBBF Bodybuilding Nationals OFFICIAL THREAD

[Stunna]

it's about 12$ by cab / i guess rent a car make sense / laval it in suburb it's kinda boring lol
if plan enjoy montreal downtown why not..

sunday it's black n blue party a all night til 11am rave of 5000ppls

club wise muzique on st laurent it's th most popular trend club venue on sunday

i b your host but after prejudgin goin paris/london

montreal a poor but a fun one !

ther's nothing to do in laval haha

th cegep tho ..close to subway terminal n that bring you everywhere easier not th hotel sheraton but all over montreal

moomba in laval is pretty good on sundays actually we loved that place, although who knows how it is now im sure its still good. Thats where we heading after, if im not in a food comma

[NorthernM]

moomba in laval is pretty good on sundays actually we loved that place, although who knows how it is now im sure its still good. Thats where we heading after, if im not in a food comma

Thanks Stunna and blp! Renting a car sounds like the best option.

[Dryvrgrl]

other years they had a shuttle service.. not sure if they are for this show or not

couple days till show.. still no word on my tickets or if my money order was recieved..

[Stunna]

75$ for night show wow might as well add 25 and compete lol

I hope people get seats that would suck having no view

[Delt King]

75$ for night show wow might as well add 25 and compete lol

I hope people get seats that would suck having no viewIts 150 for our entrance fee (biut the OPA will give us 100 in addition to our snazzy Team Ontario track suit). Just got into Laval now, and trying to find the hotel.

[phatkid77]

Told u Hassan... More than an effn pro show to watch loved ones and friends..its criminal!! And hell... If u don't do pre judge u may not even get to see your friend...well, they get called out for the participation medal..

[Stunna]

Its 150 for our entrance fee (biut the OPA will give us 100 in addition to our snazzy Team Ontario track suit). Just got into Laval now, and trying to find the hotel.

ah thats true 100 back is always a good gesture from the OPA, wonder what the track suit looks like this year

[fitfanatik]

Met up with Joe this afternoon to get my tickets...last row..there was less than 10 left! About 100 or soo for the morning. I saw the siiiick championships ringS...MASSIVE!!!

Joe's a pretty cool dude! I met him at the hotel and he had no problem with me jumping in his van and going for a quick 25 min round trip tour to the venue!

THERE IS OVER 240 ENTRIES!!!!!

That rave sounds tempting...only 5 km from my deadly 920Sq/ft pad i got for $50/night!!!

Gonna go check out PROGYM tonight which is blocks away from Club Muzique..i think...less than 60 HOURS TO PRE-JUDGING!!!!

:yeah

SOON WE FEAST!!!

MDS OREO FLURRY WITH HOT FUDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[phatkid77]

A man with a plan!!!

[gerta]

Don't know if there is anything up on Joanne Williams yet......

http://strong-athlete.com/future-bodybuilding-star-joanne-williams-1-week-out.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH87DrdzaY8

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Great vid. Found another.
Here's Jerome Bravo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNI0jMp2W58

[Sean Summers]

Loutfi will win the pro card. Bravo probably should but unless he changes his name to Le Bravo and carbs up on 'ot dogs and poutine he will have to settle for second place.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Just got news that Julie Bourassa will not be competing due to a health issue :(

[loutfi]

Loutfi will win the pro card. Bravo probably should but unless he changes his name to Le Bravo and carbs up on 'ot dogs and poutine he will have to settle for second place.
wow thanks Sean ... do you know that you are the only one ... to predict me to take that pro card on that forum ... and almost ALL forums.
Crazy bet ? hmmm ... you will see sunday if you were true or not. :-)
Except Garry Bartelett who wrote it in musclemag that i'm his pick and Scott from Muscle Insider who follows Garry ...
i don't see nowhere my name as the favorite, even if i won it last year in superheavy.
Anyway that's keep me less pressure this way, i like it also. lol

[loutfi]

By the way Sean, you're right to put a sentence from Chris Aceto in your signature.
He's for me the best nutritionist in the world and almost everything i learn is from him.
So for the moment don't have money for a coach just prepare by myself like EVERY YEAR, ...
but one day if i have some money to give to a coach it's gonna be Chris without any doubt.
if my sponsor pay for the coach than i'm fine lol

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Loutfi, it would do me great honor to change your profile title to Canadian IFBB Pro on Sunday night. You are a regular member of CBB and worked hard to get to the point of being a top contender for that pro card. I'm still very curious to see your stage pics to see how good you can get conditioned. Last year you were near perfect. If you win without a coach as you say you don't have, I can only imagine what you could accomplish with top level coaches out there on an IFBB Pro stage.

[loutfi]

Loutfi, it would do me great honor to change your profile title to Canadian IFBB Pro on Sunday night. You are a regular member of CBB and worked hard to get to the point of being a top contender for that pro card. I'm still very curious to see your stage pics to see how good you can get conditioned. Last year you were near perfect. If you win without a coach as you say you don't have, I can only imagine what you could accomplish with top level coaches out there on an IFBB Pro stage.
lol
Thanks MusulPhReAk. Yes maybe hard to believe ... but never EVER had a coach. So well, after that show if you need a coach,you know who to ask for.
The only thing i need is a 3rd eye, that's it. And that 3rd eye could be my wife, my friends, people in my gym, people who support me.
Here i can thanks to 2 personns : Reginald from my gym for tolding me things i dont want to hear. and Karem maybe one of my biggest fan on my pagefacebook.
Always very important to have people who support you, believe in you and are here when you think you'll not be able to do it.
So yes, no coach but without that team i have ... nothing will be possible. In our sport we need it, its so hard mentally, physically

And for me thinking and analysing my diet everyday for hours ! no joke.
I have a notebook for all my contests, write down everything i drink eat my mood ... everything is there and another for training.
so everymorning i wake up and opening my notebook is the first thing i do in the morning and each time i take a meal, have again a look at my notebook.
analyse analyse analyse change the diet change the diet change the diet. That's my job and i love it.
See you at the Canadians.

[Stunna]

Loutfi I Think you can , you have the dense separated muscle those others won't have.
Inshallah then you can join Mohammed touri in the pros

[MuSuLPhReAk]

And a good luck to you too on Sunday Hassan.

[razorsedge]

Just wanna wish the best to all the CBB board members, men and women, who are competing this Sunday. We all know there can only be one winner per class and then one overall winner but that doesn't take away from all the hard work that you all have put in..the time, the commitment, the family and personal sacrifices, the BBQ you passed up etc. to be here and all of us, as true BB fans salute you all....remember to be respectful of your fellow athletes and board members and be the best you can be.

Good luck to all of you...bring your best and let the cards fall where they may!

[steve_d]

Loutfi will win the pro card. Bravo probably should but unless he changes his name to Le Bravo and carbs up on 'ot dogs and poutine he will have to settle for second place.

love this post! 'ot dogs & poutine

[loutfi]

Loutfi I Think you can , you have the dense separated muscle those others won't have.
Inshallah then you can join Mohammed touri in the pros
Thank you very much Hassan. Inchallah i will join Mohamed Touri and best the next pro originary from Morroco.
But for now Mohamed is by far better than me lol
Inchallah i'll put a lot of hard work and more dense muscle for my next pro show.

[loutfi]

You're true Rasoredge we all work very hard for the show, so congrats from now to all the competitors who have done all the sacrifice it take to be on shape the day of the show.
I know there is a lot of people watching this tread but don't necesseraly write something.
So this is for those people and ... people who write as well of course.
So my message. After the show is over please come and see me, don't be shy, you can ask me to pose, take a pic with you.
It will be my pleasure. Because this is how pros must do.
Even if you don't like me or don't like my face ... or i don't know and ..the day of the show you change your mind, COME, my pleasure.

Loutfi.

[loutfi]

I apologize my self also if you come to me and i don't remember you, or i can't adjust your name with a pseudo or a friend of facebook.
There's a lot of time people who come and see me and tell me hey loutfi i know from there and this and that ... but i can't remember lol
I'm very bad for it, really sorry. But it doesn't matter you'll be welcome.

[loutfi]

Thank you very much Hassan. Inchallah i will join Mohamed Touri and best the next pro originary from Morroco.
But for now Mohamed is by far better than me lol
Inchallah i'll put a lot of hard work and more dense muscle for my next pro show.

.

[Andre Gregoire]

Good luck to everyone competing.

[fitfanatik]

CHECK OUT SERGE MOREAUS PROGYM!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74UHZUCGq-s

I was up till 4:30 am last night..still managed hopefully 4 hours sleep.
The time change and the excitment will do it!
Tonight is the last night to...chill.
may u all be safe and sound...

IT'S THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM!!!

A few last pix b4 the show.
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..a little sumthin' sumthin' to keep the thread going.

I pray for sleep now.

May you all keep dreaming your dream.

peace

[BDH]

Wow, Fit... you got a Munzer tricep there...

[Stunna]

From 9days out arm workout, ill post video after the show

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Vid of Renaldo Gairy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVq64LB9V5M

[MuscleRush]

Good luck to all the competitors this weekend, may your hard work and dedication pays off . You are all winners just by being there on stage battling it out with your fellow Canadians bodybuilders.

It was unfortunate for me not to participate this year, just started my offseason a month ago preparing For next year's nationals.
I 'll be back bigger and better than I ever was.


Also Best wishes to my trainer and friend Ted Trush this weekend

God bless you all

Maher "MuscleRush" AlAsfar

[SuperQT]

Don't know if there is anything up on Joanne Williams yet......

http://strong-athlete.com/future-bodybuilding-star-joanne-williams-1-week-out.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH87DrdzaY8

She looks amazing she has improved on an already very impressive physique.

Good luck to everyone that trained hard to make it to 2011 nationals.

[phatkid77]

Well, what did everyone weigh in @?

[Delt King]

#1- I need to say thanks to the OPA for providing some kick ass jackets for the ontario athletes...very nice.
#2- WTH is with that cheap scale they were using? looks like they got it at Walmart clearance table. (On the plus side it weighed 5lbs less than my own digital so i went from 187.5 to 182.5 in a matter of minutes lol.)

Athletes meeting is in an hour and that's where we will see how many are in our classes. I heard that the light-heavy class has more than 30 competitors.

[natenator]

28 according to Shannon.

HW has 30 lol

Them guys are ****ed haha gonna work like a $2 whore
#1- I need to say thanks to the OPA for providing some kick ass jackets for the ontario athletes...very nice.
#2- WTH is with that cheap scale they were using? looks like they got it at Walmart clearance table. (On the plus side it weighed 5lbs less than my own digital so i went from 187.5 to 182.5 in a matter of minutes lol.)

Athletes meeting is in an hour and that's where we will see how many are in our classes. I heard that the light-heavy class has more than 30 competitors.

[JonnyO]

I just sat in the lobby and drank a beer with Razor. People are arriving for the meeting coming up soon. Ram weighed in at 208 and Nancy was 163.5lbs.

[steve_d]

28 according to Shannon.

HW has 30 lol

Them guys are ****ed haha gonna work like a $2 whore

My bro said 31.....i was just thinking again, yep last time they will combine those classes. Until I heard there were just as many in. heavy! Should be a good show....have fun judges!

[razorsedge]

Theres gonna be alot of posing for some guys...should be a few guys break a pretty good sweat throwing it down up there..

[phatkid77]

Any confirmation?? I heard 44 in LHW and 30 in HW...

[blp]

darren oliver is da ****ing man !!!!!!! best personal trainer in canada since many years

[Gixxer750]

Vibram 5 Fingers! The only way to go. If you're doing legs in Nike shocks you're missing the point. Though why does his training point to just behind Renaldo's shoulder and mention rhomboids. The rhomboids originate at C7-T5 and insert on the MEDIAL border of the scapula. It's a scapula retractor and rotator. Anyways.... Renaldo looks great. Just that his trainer ought to know more about the anatomy if he's going to try and explain the movement. Or am I wrong here?

[JonnyO]

Athletes meeting was stupid. The room was HOT, people were sweating buckets, if you didn't make weight you sure as hell did after the meeting. It was LONG. Start was 7pm, and they went by weight/category, so Supers last, Heavies were done around 9 pr 930pm. IMO they should have been given their numbers and handed in music upon weigh ins thus eliminating the horrible athletes meeting. People had spray tan appointments, meal timing, etc, crazy!

[blp]

Vibram 5 Fingers! The only way to go. If you're doing legs in Nike shocks you're missing the point. Though why does his training point to just behind Renaldo's shoulder and mention rhomboids. The rhomboids originate at C7-T5 and insert on the MEDIAL border of the scapula. It's a scapula retractor and rotator. Anyways.... Renaldo looks great. Just that his trainer ought to know more about the anatomy if he's going to try and explain the movement. Or am I wrong here?


your right

but darren make monster , i mean huge ridiculous monster

th day you want to be 300 pounds , you call him

[Gixxer750]

your right

but darren make monster , i mean huge ridiculous monster

th day you want to be 300 pounds , you call him)

LOL....as a female I think I'm happy at being 5'9" and 170 and 13%BF. (don't let the sport bike fool you...I'm hella fast on that thing :p )

[fitfanatik]

Wow, Fit... you got a Munzer tricep there...

Thanks man! Wish he was still around...and hopefully I survive the weekend...no diuretics for me...just an hour in a sauna suit.

Here's a little bit of vid from the weigh-in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rHIEqHOOqB4

peakin and freakin at 3am...wish I could walk onstage...RIGHT NOW!!!

damn I need to hold this condtion for too long....I am #55 light master and #135 Welter...up agaist Steve Marsh, Abdul Sagar, Chris Johnson, Pierre M. ,Mark Loo to name a few... about 8 in each class.

another coat or 2 of protan to go and debating the whole food and water issue...at 92-95% right now..a good pump-up would tell the story. a nap would be nice...BUT NOOO!

Good Luck Everybody...as long as you improve from your previous best it's a WIN!

I WIN!!!

:p

[blp]

)

LOL....as a female I think I'm happy at being 5'9" and 170 and 13%BF. (don't let the sport bike fool you...I'm hella fast on that thing :p )

haha

i cant ride a bike n wont reach 300

5'9 170 indeed , it' quite something

[Dryvrgrl]

If anyone has room in a car to get to toronto can ya hit me up? It would appear I have been ditched in montreal..
Oh I'm also single again haha

[Delt King]

If anyone has room in a car to get to toronto can ya hit me up? It would appear I have been ditched in montreal..
Oh I'm also single again haha

if you don't get anybody elses help let me know and you can hitch a ride with me and my buddy. Did you get tix for the shows? Are you out of a hotel rm too?

[Dryvrgrl]

if you don't get anybody elses help let me know and you can hitch a ride with me and my buddy. Did you get tix for the shows? Are you out of a hotel rm too?

I stayed in the room lol... im good there.. and i think i got a ride.. but i appreciate! LOL

k.. so ill be posting updates to Facebook if anyone wants to swipe from my acct and post em up on here.. go ahead

and GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!
xoxo

ps I love Razoredge and Mrs Razor.. so sweet.. kind kind people..

[kibrood]

your right

but darren make monster , i mean huge ridiculous monster

th day you want to be 300 pounds , you call him

darren's explanations can make you scratch your head, we've had many many conversations over anatomy and biomechanics, but the man know's how to train. really one of the best in the biz.

[MuscleRush]

Does anybody have any updates ?

[sean0617]

I stayed in the room lol... im good there.. and i think i got a ride.. but i appreciate! LOL

k.. so ill be posting updates to Facebook if anyone wants to swipe from my acct and post em up on here.. go ahead

and GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!
xoxo

ps I love Razoredge and Mrs Razor.. so sweet.. kind kind people..

anybody have a link for the facebook page?

[phatkid77]

Was thinkin same thing!! Pics up at muscle-nsider but I don't see hassan, tony or the like... Either didn't make a "splash" or not all r up yet... Dyin here..I want info!!!!! Lol

[steve_d]

Was thinkin same thing!! Pics up at muscle-nsider but I don't see hassan, tony or the like... Either didn't make a "splash" or not all r up yet... Dyin here..I want info!!!!! Lol

Tony made call out. I thought he looked not lean, but it was a small pic.
Renaldo looks like ge will win.loutfi is off.

Antoine looks a bit off. Hassan not sure.

[steve_d]

Matt tsinkorang has pics on facebook

[Dryvrgrl]

Coco kissack on facebook
Razor edge woman made first callout
Stunna first call but renaldo gairy gonna be hard to beat

Joanne wil and Ffab for pro cards
Loutfi first callout but kinda lost in crowd
Antoine first callout.. 2 years growing its his.. Sooooooo cute tholn

[Dryvrgrl]

Mrs razors edge CHAMP

[faller]

Mrs razors edge CHAMP

Seriously, Nancy took it? That is fing awesome!! Small town girl does good!!

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Mrs razors edge CHAMP

Sweet!!

[natenator]

who removed phats post????????

[Dryvrgrl]

First pro Lisa G

[MuscleRush]

your doing a great job Coco

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Martin Allard just won MASTER OVERALL

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Fabiola Boulanger new IFBB Pro!!

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Someone bring Coco some food if you know where she is :)

[Evolution31]

Anyone know where Elliot Carr and Brenden Demers placed in the Juniors?

As well as Alex Whamond in Classic. Friends of mine from New Brunswick wondering how they did.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Anyone know where Elliot Carr and Brenden Demers placed in the Juniors?



Didn't see them in top 3 on Dryvrgrl's updates.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Just heard Tony Searle won light heavies. Not 100% sure but he's in top 3 for sure.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Correction, Tony 2nd.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Heavyweight coming up!!

[phatkid77]

well good for tony.. he must have been pretty good tonite...lots of potential to tap into

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Mike Lynds and Zane Watson, Harrison Ramon (sic) Tyron Ashley in top 5

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Renaldo Gairy in top 5 too

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Renaldo and Zane in top 3

[fitnessbyzara]

I'm following now, too! Excited to hear the results up next!

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Renaldo wins, Zane 3rd

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Alexandre Raymond 2nd

[MuSuLPhReAk]

and now...on to the super freaks :)

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Antoine Vaillant, Jerome Bravo, Mike Johnson, Ryan Malo - TOP 5

[MuSuLPhReAk]

And Loutfi Ajaoun

[MuSuLPhReAk]

The supense...lol, these guys have worked damn hard and deserve to be up there right now.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

3rd Antoine Vaillant
2nd Jerome Bravo
1st MIKE JOHNSON!!!!

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Everyone booing!!!

[MuSuLPhReAk]

The new pro coming up!!

[MuSuLPhReAk]

There will be 2 pro cards!!!

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Renaldo Gairy our newest IFBB Pro!!

[phatkid77]

he looked pretty damn good....

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Mike Johnson is our new Mr. Canada 2011 and newest IFBB. A big congrats to you Mike.

[phatkid77]

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renaldo

[phatkid77]

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antoine

[phatkid77]

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renaldo

[phatkid77]

27918
antoine

[phatkid77]

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is this johnson in the middle if so, i dont agree......but what do i know

[phatkid77]

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another comparo

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Jerome....wow!! Super thick!!

[phatkid77]

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some meat

[phatkid77]

steve charbonneau....like 164lb?? how he do, i have a buddy wondering.....thnx

[phatkid77]

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for you mp...lol

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Antoine looks pretty good next to Jerome.

[freaky abs]

Congrats to Mike Johnson and Renaldo Gairy

[baza]

How many in supers?

[razorsedge]

Just got home..what a long day. The judges made the right call with the guys in my opinion...3 new male Cdn pros. JOHNSON came in quiet and took the show..Antoine and Jerome both off a bit and Johnson was spot on and super conditioned...renaldo got better as the night went and Martin Allaire was, imo, the best physique in the show..flawless.

On the womens hand, Fab was clear cut winner and new pro. Lisa Giesbrecht from BC also got pro card and well deserved.

Here at my house the wife took the GM class and then got 5th in open HW which we thought was great but the big surprise to us was she got called out for overall masters and went head to head with Lisa for the card and only lost by a point. I near fell over when they called her to go for the overall masters and pro card...we never even had that even a tiny bit on our mind as first nationals.

Anyway, pizza time...great work guys and gals ...

[Dryvrgrl]

I lost my hotel and finlly found it.. Long fricken walk, good show tooooooo long! Dreading the addition of physique Classes next year.. Anyway.. Good times great people I'm hungry mmm eggwhites

[fitfanatik]

Everyone booing!!!

hmmmmmm I guess the majority DID NOT agree with the judging in more than 1 class...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9GsgPU9p1k


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZknAVkry9g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kw3pePCCXI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOoxtwy8S3o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u482SmvOc38


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u482SmvOc38

some of the vid I took with the cheap cam...the gf got about 4 hours of dvd vid....

stay tuned...might have a nap...

...could be a few days long...lol

[dan1977]

A lot of pics on Muscle Insider's Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150863047820370.751462.478983560369&type=3


Congrats to everyone even though you might not of got the place you wanted, you all diserve 1st place for achieving something only a few can brag to ever achieve. You looked great.

[dan1977]

Antoine Vaillant must be disapointed... It the comparison shots, it seems he doesn't have the lat widness of the other guys?

Alexandre Raymond and Martin Allard looked like they had a real good package from the pics.

[loutfi]

Hi guys,
great contest we have. Forums are some times so funny. When i was SPOT ON last year, Dryvgirl was the only one to say it.
and now ... i did not show my best and i'm OFF. Being OFF and making the top 5 ...wow amazing. what's happen if i'm spot on again !lol
Anyway just a joke.

After what i have this year, my back problems back in april, my opening store in april, ... and last but not least my moving from montreal to laval in jully.
so with all these things fixed my back is perfect now, we were middle jully wich was a little bit less than 3 months to prepare to this big event .... compare to the 6 months i gave last year.
that was a crazy bet and nearly impossible to come in top shape in a so short time. but it's lesson in life that i take and make me stronger.
some times you win some times you loose, this is called competition. I feel great because of the support i've got this year from my fans, friends, guys on forums ... and also respect that athletes and people give me yesterday knowing me i'm a champion, even if it wasn't my day. that was a victory for me.
just want to congrats jerome, he was my pick for the 1st place, yes yes yes he IS the monster. no doubt. or i would place him 2nd behind a guy with a blue trunk all the experts were talking about him, as the best conditionned guy on stage if not in ALL the show and ... who did NOT place in top 3. i feel really bad for him, i was shocked they did not call him. he's 4th i think, and i'm 5th in think.
congrats to Reinaldo and yes Delt King you were right because on the overall Reinaldo was ALSO my pick ... for the overall !
I was reallly impressed by Reinaldo, i mean he always have great line, but lacking a bit size or fullness. HERE ... he bring his best package, not as sharped like last year but fuuuuull, symetry, crazy hanging hams, fantastic back shots. It's simple he looked the superheavy on the stage of the overall.
he tooked a pro card and i'm happy for him. more than deserved. and he's a nice guy too. lol it's was nice to talk to him.
me, i will fast my ramadan and taking this time to purify and rest my body and after that .... he're we go again.
loutfi.

[freaky abs]

Congrats to the competitors from Ottawa that placed top 6 in their weight class.
Iain Valliere 1st Men's Juniors
Tony Searle 2nd Men's Light Heavyweight
Alex Audi 6th Men's Heavyweight

[Stoneco|d]

Alex got 6th? He's been doing so well and moving up quick ... amazing!

No surprise with Iain ... kid is damn impressive and huge. Future PRO for sure!

[phatkid77]

Wish there wa s more pics..none of the LHW?? Wtf.. And no way did johnson A. Win the SHW and B. Shouldn't not have beat Renaldo for overall... Kinda baffled over here...

[fitfanatik]

Wish there wa s more pics..none of the LHW?? Wtf.. And no way did johnson A. Win the SHW and B. Shouldn't not have beat Renaldo for overall... Kinda baffled over here...

How did Abdul Sagar win the welter with a major pec tear??

...and in the light master Abdul places 2nd with pec tear??

............................................and in 3rd light master is Compton Austin with pec tear??

"baffled over here x2"
?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPuqJSGTpq4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqAog2wBdMU

[BDS]

Ron Partlow sure missed an opportunity to walk away with this one.

[SantanaAnderson]

Wish there wa s more pics..none of the LHW?? Wtf.. And no way did johnson A. Win the SHW and B. Shouldn't not have beat Renaldo for overall... Kinda baffled over here...

I was right behind the judges table at the show, and sometimes pictures don't convey how ripped and hard someone is. Mike J. was without a doubt the most conditioned guy there. If you look at the judges scorecards, they placed him straight firsts in his class. Not 100 percent sure how the overall went down, but heard second hand it was the same there as well.

Coming from strictly a fan of the sport and trying to as unbiased as I can be, Mike Johnson absolutely deserved the win. There's a lot of if "this guy was a little drier, or that guy a little bigger" that happens after every show, but the fact remains that on the day of the show, Mike was the best bodybuilder there.

[phatkid77]

well what do you know....lmao.. just kidding... yes pics sucks..in person is wherere its at...
thanks for the insight...

[razorsedge]

I was right behind the judges table at the show, and sometimes pictures don't convey how ripped and hard someone is. Mike J. was without a doubt the most conditioned guy there. If you look at the judges scorecards, they placed him straight firsts in his class. Not 100 percent sure how the overall went down, but heard second hand it was the same there as well.

Coming from strictly a fan of the sport and trying to as unbiased as I can be, Mike Johnson absolutely deserved the win. There's a lot of if "this guy was a little drier, or that guy a little bigger" that happens after every show, but the fact remains that on the day of the show, Mike was the best bodybuilder there.

Exactly and well put...you don't win shows on boards, you show up and be dead on with everything...I had no idea who this guy was but he was the best and congrats to him...man he had about a 28 inch waist it looked like from dead center seats in the middle...

[phatkid77]

i guess too.. the pics on md, whoever the hack was working the camera didnt get 1 good pic, all between poses and not "hitting" it.... gahh

[dangit]

Mike has great stage presence and knows how to pose with the best of them. Presentation means a lot on stage. You can't always get that from pics. When you see Mike pose, he somehow gets bigger and muscles you never thought he had come popping out.

[freaky abs]

I was right behind the judges table at the show, and sometimes pictures don't convey how ripped and hard someone is. Mike J. was without a doubt the most conditioned guy there. If you look at the judges scorecards, they placed him straight firsts in his class. Not 100 percent sure how the overall went down, but heard second hand it was the same there as well.

Coming from strictly a fan of the sport and trying to as unbiased as I can be, Mike Johnson absolutely deserved the win. There's a lot of if "this guy was a little drier, or that guy a little bigger" that happens after every show, but the fact remains that on the day of the show, Mike was the best bodybuilder there.
Well said Santana, Mike Johnson won the show.

[maxpower]

I concur 100% with Santana. I was also at the show sitting in Row A...Mike absolutely deserved the win

[fitfanatik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnT6uYUfJyU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMtiUVY362U

...a couple more vids,

...who has pics of mens light master and mens welter?

i still have tons of video...trade ya...;)

[loutfi]

Fitfanatik i was great to meet you and speak with you. It was great to speak with Renaldo and Jerome.
I feel very bad for Ryan Malo, this guy is coming like me from nowhere and showing without a doubt from all the experts at the contest yesterday the best condition of the entire show ...
and who finish 4th. I know what was his feeling like i was the most conditioned guy on stage last year and leave the stage without a pro card and without the overall, at least me, last year i had my class.
Props to this guy. I spoke with him and congrats him. He's training in Archies Gym in Montreal and has been prepared by Samer Zebib. Samer has a great reputation to prepare athletes, and again prove that his reputation is founded.

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I was pleased with the package i brought, unfortunately not having the time to polish it this time ... another 5 weeks would help me a lot lol
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[natenator]

y'all are winners in my book!

[Gixxer750]

The women are there too. Just go to the album section.

A lot of pics on Muscle Insider's Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150863047820370.751462.478983560369&type=3


Congrats to everyone even though you might not of got the place you wanted, you all diserve 1st place for achieving something only a few can brag to ever achieve. You looked great.

[bluenose]

Ryan look very good. Good thing he moved up to SHW from HW makes better sense for his body type. Met him back in 08 nationals when we were both in the same class really nice guy!

Loutfi..... Shit load of stuff going on in your personal life by the sounds of it while trying to get ready for this show. Congrats to you. I'm sure you wished the placing was better, but improvements were made. Like you said a little more polished!

[Praetorian]

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What I don't understand is how Renaldo gets a pro card this year for winning Heavies and You didnt get one last year for winning Supers...to me your physique is much more pro level then his...makes no sense!
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[SantanaAnderson]

Loufti... I agree that Ryan looked great. He is a good guy too.

Now you don't really think you were the most conditioned guy last year,.. do you ;) ;)
And yes Praetorian, I agree that there should have been a second card last year..

Congrats on a good showing yesterday as well. Its hard sometimes to prep properly if a lot is going on.

[loutfi]

Santana, my name is LouTfi not LouFti.
And you did not read correctly my text.
I said "i WAS THE MOST CONDITIONNED last year at 2010 Canadian." NO DOUBT.
That was my thought last year and still my thought today. So yes i know what Ryan is feeling right now.

[loutfi]

What I don't understand is how Renaldo gets a pro card this year for winning Heavies and You didnt get one last year for winning Supers...to me your physique is much more pro level then his...makes no sense!
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Thank you very much Praetorian for your word and your props, i had a lot of respect from all the athletes showing me that i'm a real champion and feel very good with it.
And for sure i agree also with you i know the value of my physic especially at this Canadian 2010 were i was spot on, and i say it and say it again, really shocked to leave the stage without the overall, at least i would accept the 2nd procard. I had a score of 7 and the overall winner a score of 9 ... maybe i have to return school doing my math lol
So that's exactly why i'm happy for Renaldo, he take a pro card and i'm sincerely happy for him, spoke with him, give him props and congrats him for the package he brought.

[SantanaAnderson]

Haha, Oh no, I understood what you said brother. I knew you were talking about last year, but I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. As long as there's no doubt in your mind :) My sincerest apologies for my typo,, it was not intentional.

[loutfi]

You're right Santana. I don't take the decision, the judges take decision so anyway i can do nothing.
As an athlete all i can do is come better and stronger again and again, this is all what i can do, and hope one day i will show a physic that will give unanimity for the victory like i had when i won the Quebec. With that i would looooove that all people, fans and maybe most important athletes congrats me and give me their props showing me that wow ok ... i really deserve it.

[SantanaAnderson]

Anyways,, definitely wasn't trying to argue about last year. I wish you nothing but the best in the future. Was a great show this year, and sure it will be again next year.

[fitfanatik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57YNoFWaN0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lOvTr2kf_s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfcTUfSmgnc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHyy6J5MrCk

[Prisoner#22]

Santana, my name is LouTfi not LouFti.
And you did not read correctly my text.
I said "i WAS THE MOST CONDITIONNED last year at 2010 Canadian." NO DOUBT.
That was my thought last year and still my thought today. So yes i know what Ryan is feeling right now.

I didn't place behind you last year Loutfi on account that you out-conditioned me. So I will have to argue that statement. I think you were very lucky to beat Ron last year, It's funny how different judging pannels can have a completely different point of view, as you found out at the North American. Yah, you were sharper than the big guys last year, and I guess thats why you won the class. You definitely were not sharper than Santana last year, or bigger. Should you have gotten a pro card anyway? yah, I think you should have.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

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[fitfanatik]

Some pics for you all.



IMAGESHACK NATIONALS PICS LINK-CLICK ME! (http://imageshack.us/homepage/?user=fitfanatik)



Time to upgrage the $100 Casio...

...on the plane tonight...bound for the west coast mecca...GOLDS GYM BURNABY!!!!!!!!

:beer

[MuSuLPhReAk]

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[MuSuLPhReAk]

A special note about some comments made in this thread.

First off, to get to the Nationals and compete on that stage means you've worked your ass off. With that said, you are all winners and what you do inspires others to get in the sport and take that step to have the courage to step on stage and be judged by others.

As for coverage, it's getting better over the years. Everyone is starting to pitch in. Coco was a huge plus in getting results up. I can understand her frustration as the reward is not much and then some complain about what she tried to do. Her statement was said in what I believe to be frustration. I've been there myself many times but continue to keep the engine going as others chipping in keep me motivated. Take a look at what fitfanatik did in terms of video posting and getting that feeling of being there. Hats off to you for what you brought. Then the magazines have been doing coverage. The difference is mags make a lot of $$ doing this and the others don't. So in my very humble opinion, support these people who try to bring something to the table instead of dissing them.

For those that have been around for many years online, how was the coverage of a CBBF show 10 years ago? I know because I went back to look for information and had a really hard time. Look today, pics, videos, mags etc. When I find well put together videos, I do my best to promote them even if I get nothing in return. When people work selflessly to promote themselves or others I highly respect them. It benefits the sport and the CBBF in general. Take a good look at the number of competitors this year compared to others. It's a good sign.

I know some of you would love coverage like RX, MD etc and a live feed like bb.com does for the Olympia and the Arnold but this is not at the same level as those shows to be able to invest that much. Maybe it will be one day but it will take us to promote the sport in a healthy fashion and to work together rather than bash everyone and everything.

I personally felt there was more hype going into this show than last year. Look at the video Antoine put out with the feel of a challenge at the end by his bud. Look at Jerome Bravo's vid. It's entertainment and generates an interesting level of competition plus we get to know the athletes. Take Loutfi's video when he does a workout then gives comments. I strongly feel this is the future way of doing things to promote the sport and competitors.

And the last thing is, Mike Johnson won the Overall. This is 2 years in a row Mr. Canada comes from Nova Scotia and has been trained by Salim Satir. Big congrats on your win Mike and also to Salim. :greet

Also a big congrats to Fabiola Boulanger after coming close last year and winning the overall and pro card. Renaldo Gairy, Lisa Giesbrecht and Martin Allard for earning pro cards. Hopefully they will all go on to step on a pro stage and give us more representation and material to promote bodybuilding in Canada.

[natenator]

The people dissing of coverage was directed at those organizations that make money off this sport and anyone with half a brain knew that is what some meant by these comments. I've never encountered ANYONE on a forum who complains about random folk who try to update the forum membership as to what is going on. I'm pretty certain we all appreciate it when people are willing to do so, so again the dissing was not of regular folk trying to provide information to forum members - it was directed at revenue generating organizations who stand to make $ from this sport in Canada.


Oh and agree with you - huge props to Salim. Two years, two pro's. Maybe now we can all get off Darren Oliver's nut sac



A special note about some comments made in this thread.

First off, to get to the Nationals and compete on that stage means you've worked your ass off. With that said, you are all winners and what you do inspires others to get in the sport and take that step to have the courage to step on stage and be judged by others.

As for coverage, it's getting better over the years. Everyone is starting to pitch in. Coco was a huge plus in getting results up. I can understand her frustration as the reward is not much and then some complain about what she tried to do. Her statement was said in what I believe to be frustration. I've been there myself many times but continue to keep the engine going as others chipping in keep me motivated. Take a look at what fitfanatik did in terms of video posting and getting that feeling of being there. Hats off to you for what you brought. Then the magazines have been doing coverage. The difference is mags make a lot of $$ doing this and the others don't. So in my very humble opinion, support these people who try to bring something to the table instead of dissing them.

For those that have been around for many years online, how was the coverage of a CBBF show 10 years ago? I know because I went back to look for information and had a really hard time. Look today, pics, videos, mags etc. When I find well put together videos, I do my best to promote them even if I get nothing in return. When people work selflessly to promote themselves or others I highly respect them. It benefits the sport and the CBBF in general. Take a good look at the number of competitors this year compared to others. It's a good sign.

I know some of you would love coverage like RX, MD etc and a live feed like bb.com does for the Olympia and the Arnold but this is not at the same level as those shows to be able to invest that much. Maybe it will be one day but it will take us to promote the sport in a healthy fashion and to work together rather than bash everyone and everything.

I personally felt there was more hype going into this show than last year. Look at the video Antoine put out with the feel of a challenge at the end by his bud. Look at Jerome Bravo's vid. It's entertainment and generates an interesting level of competition plus we get to know the athletes. Take Loutfi's video when he does a workout then gives comments. I strongly feel this is the future way of doing things to promote the sport and competitors.

And the last thing is, Mike Johnson won the Overall. This is 2 years in a row Mr. Canada comes from Nova Scotia and has been trained by Salim Satir. Big congrats on your win Mike and also to Salim. :greet

Also a big congrats to Fabiola Boulanger after coming close last year and winning the overall and pro card. Renaldo Gairy, Lisa Giesbrecht and Martin Allard for earning pro cards. Hopefully they will all go on to step on a pro stage and give us more representation and material to promote bodybuilding in Canada.

[steve_d]

Thank you very much Praetorian for your word and your props, i had a lot of respect from all the athletes showing me that i'm a real champion and feel very good with it.
And for sure i agree also with you i know the value of my physic especially at this Canadian 2010 were i was spot on, and i say it and say it again, really shocked to leave the stage without the overall, at least i would accept the 2nd procard. I had a score of 7 and the overall winner a score of 9 ... maybe i have to return school doing my math lol
So that's exactly why i'm happy for Renaldo, he take a pro card and i'm sincerely happy for him, spoke with him, give him props and congrats him for the package he brought.\

Loutfi, you have been in this sport a long time and are at such a high level that I am surprise by your comment about returning to school for math.

You're score of 7 meant that you won your class with a score of 7. Santana won his class with a score of 8. You can't compare you're 7 to his 8. All it means is that you dominated your own class more than he dominated his. But there are other classes (ex marco zaborac) that won with a score of 5 - straight firsts. But this is the overall....we're talking. If it were based on a score from individual classes, the bantom could win every year.

And yes, I was the one to say you were off in my post earlier. I believe I was the only one, so I assume you're earlier comment was directed towards me. What is the harm in telling the members that you were off? Had you been on, you might have won the class again...Had you been on, you might have won the overall this year. But you were off. I am sorry for not giving you props last year, but at the time I didn't know you as a regular member, whereas this year you we're basically one of, if not the favorite to win who regularly contribute to this forum. So that is the only reason I mentioned you were off and didn't mention how on you were last year.

With that said, I do have a question for you....Prior to hitting the stage, you were extremely confident in becoming the newest pro. In fact, I have yet to see someone so open about this confidence on a board. It was a change of pace from the normally very humble attitude you usually carry. Don't get me wrong, I love it when I hear this type of confidence going into a show. I often rather hear someone sound confident than overally humble - especially when they are the best in canada. However, you know yourself that you didn't have as much time to prep, etc. Did something go wrong with the last couple of days, or do you believe it was a matter of a few more weeks needed? If so, why we're you so confident knowing you weren't spot on....We all know the overall winner is not going to go to someone unless they are bang on, so knowing you were off and still thinking you had it coming into the show almost seems like a slap in the face to other canadians who must have felt they had a shot at winning.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

The people dissing of coverage was directed at those organizations that make money off this sport and anyone with half a brain knew that is what some meant by these comments. I've never encountered ANYONE on a forum who complains about random folk who try to update the forum membership as to what is going on. I'm pretty certain we all appreciate it when people are willing to do so, so again the dissing was not of regular folk trying to provide information to forum members - it was directed at revenue generating organizations who stand to make $ from this sport in Canada.

And answering that way makes it more constructive and gives us a better image. Lot's of people don't post on forums because of attitudes nowadays. We can all disagree on stuff or have strong opinions but the way we write will have an impact on those reading. Some forums are popular for the attack style posts and reply's. Taking a less hands on approach had CBB turning into that and people not coming anymore because of it. It can never be perfect on forums with users under anonymous handles but the competitors and people that are not anonymous with their handles I try to protect from attacks. There have been many who disagree here and post up the disagreements in a respectful manner. I do admit some people tend to get under others skin. As I said, it can never be perfect. I just don't want anyone to think I don't care and it's ok to do stuff like that. Not aiming the whole post I made at you. This quote in Dan Fedeluk's interview was an eye opener for me


On the negative side of things I’ve always taken things too personal. Also my feelings towards the sport have dramatically changed. I really dislike what I see at shows now and refuse to go on most boards. I used to love this sub culture but it has become so polluted with bad attitudes, bad energies, selfishness, greed, haters and an overall lack of RESPECT.

[steve_d]

I didn't place behind you last year Loutfi on account that you out-conditioned me. So I will have to argue that statement. I think you were very lucky to beat Ron last year, It's funny how different judging pannels can have a completely different point of view, as you found out at the North American. Yah, you were sharper than the big guys last year, and I guess thats why you won the class. You definitely were not sharper than Santana last year, or bigger. Should you have gotten a pro card anyway? yah, I think you should have.

Yes, canada needs to be more consistent, or at least explain how they decide why some years two cards are given, and some years only 1. Loutfi could have easily gotten the 2nd card last year, seeing as how they were giving a 2nd card this year. It's not like this year was more competitve than other years. I've said this before, but I will say it again here - I honestly think a card should only be rewarded to the overall winner. The way things are going, we are giving too many cards and our competitors will be doing nothing with them. I even hear people say we should have a card for each weight class winner! Ya, that is real smart...What is a welter winner going to do as an IFBB pro...And don't say 'oh well, there is an under 212 division'. No one under 180 will be able to hold their own in that division - unless you're 3 foot 6.

If we keep giving 2 cards per year at nationals + 1 at the elite showdown + the masters overall winner, I am thinking in 5 years time, the overall at nationals will be washed down to the effect that there will be far less prestige in winning.

Many people will disagree with me on this, but it's the way I see it.

[natenator]

And answering that way makes it more constructive and gives us a better image. Lot's of people don't post on forums because of attitudes nowadays. We can all disagree on stuff or have strong opinions but the way we write will have an impact on those reading. Some forums are popular for the attack style posts and reply's. Taking a less hands on approach had CBB turning into that and people not coming anymore because of it. It can never be perfect on forums with users under anonymous handles but the competitors and people that are not anonymous with their handles I try to protect from attacks. There have been many who disagree here and post up the disagreements in a respectful manner. I do admit some people tend to get under others skin. As I said, it can never be perfect. I just don't want anyone to think I don't care and it's ok to do stuff like that. Not aiming the whole post I made at you. This quote in Dan Fedeluk's interview was an eye opener for me

People give respect when it is earned. Coco gave zero respect in her comments yesterday and CLEARLY missed the point about what bluenose was saying thus disrespected him in the beginning.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

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[mb07]

Hello all.
My name is Steve Marsh.
I won the Masters Light Division at this show. I am a little confused as to what happened in the Welterweight Division. If you look at the placings you will see that I beat Abdul and William (With William in fourth) for the division. Then in the Welterweight I ended up in fourth behind Abdul and William.
I am not going to comment on my condition or my competitors conditions or make any claims or accusations.
For the record. I have no issue with losing to Abdul. I consider him a good friend but I'm just not sure how this happens when the two classes were held a couple hours apart. In fact I discussed this with my friend Abdul after the show and he was at a loss as well. He came to win, rightly so, gave his best and accepted his placings in both catagories based on the judges decision.
I have asked people in the audience if my condition or my competitors conditions changed significantly during the time frame and the answer has been no. So.... I ask the question.

Can anyone in attendence explain to me what happened.

Mens Masters Light
1 - Steve Marsh MB
2 - Abdul Sagar ON
3 - Compton Austin ON
4 - William Celis ON
5 - Yves Montmarquette PQ
6 - Steve Charbonneau ON
7 - Todd Hnatiuk BC
8 - Luciano Rao ON
9 - Doug Heron ON
10 - Paul Brooker ON withdrew

Mens Welterweight
1 - Abdul Sagar ON
2 - Joshua Atsriku ON
3 - Williams Celis ON
4 - Steve Marsh MB
5 - Chris Johnson NS
6 - Jamie Peterson NB
7 - Todd Hnatiuk BC
8 - Mark Loo BC
9 - Chris Gurunlian PQ
10 - Guy Thibodeau PQ
11 - Luciano Rao ON withdrew

[BDH]

I am kind of happy we are getting to see a bit of realism here... the swinging from each others nutsacks in the weeks leading up to the show was getting old... I knew it couldn't last forever... good to see the competitive nature taking over...

I miss the Carl vs Jordan Janvier days...lol

[BDH]

Hello all.
My name is Steve Marsh.
I won the Masters Light Division at this show. I am a little confused as to what happened in the Welterweight Division. If you look at the placings you will see that I beat Abdul and William (With William in fourth) for the division. Then in the Welterweight I ended up in fourth behind Abdul and William.
I am not going to comment on my condition or my competitors conditions or make any claims or accusations.
For the record. I have no issue with losing to Abdul. I consider him a good friend but I'm just not sure how this happens when the two classes were held a couple hours apart. In fact I discussed this with my friend Abdul after the show and he was at a loss as well. He came to win, rightly so, gave his best and accepted his placings in both catagories based on the judges decision.
I have asked people in the audience if my condition or my competitors conditions changed significantly during the time frame and the answer has been no. So.... I ask the question.

Can anyone in attendence explain to me what happened.Same thing happened to Joanne Williams. She places ahead of Lisa G in Women's Heavy, but loses the pro card to her in Masters Heavy... kind of strange but I don't know specifics... just seems odd to lose to someone and beat them on the same stage on the same day...

[MuSuLPhReAk]

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[freaky abs]

Yes, canada needs to be more consistent, or at least explain how they decide why some years two cards are given, and some years only 1. Loutfi could have easily gotten the 2nd card last year, seeing as how they were giving a 2nd card this year. It's not like this year was more competitve than other years. I've said this before, but I will say it again here - I honestly think a card should only be rewarded to the overall winner. The way things are going, we are giving too many cards and our competitors will be doing nothing with them. I even hear people say we should have a card for each weight class winner! Ya, that is real smart...What is a welter winner going to do as an IFBB pro...And don't say 'oh well, there is an under 212 division'. No one under 180 will be able to hold their own in that division - unless you're 3 foot 6.

If we keep giving 2 cards per year at nationals + 1 at the elite showdown + the masters overall winner, I am thinking in 5 years time, the overall at nationals will be washed down to the effect that there will be far less prestige in winning.

Many people will disagree with me on this, but it's the way I see it.
Yes I believe a Pro Card should be given only to the overall winner. They should return to the pre-2002 rules where only one pro card was awarded to the overall winner.

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[phatkid77]

Steve marsh.that's all kinds of effd up..and BDH comments, that girl was screwed too!! That's just brutal.. I don't know all names..but the LHW video..I saw some people that looked bigger and in shape but got passed over just like hassan clearly did...that's BS..

And yes, nut huggin is annoying...hey, I wish I looked like most of them, but I don't believe in lying... ****.. My very close friend bluenose can attest (if he remembers) at his shows..I tell him the TRUTH.. At the provincials and the canadas.. No sense lying..I start off by sayin...."Now I'd give my left nutt to look like you...BUT......". Lol
No harm in also saying to people on this nite "class was weak..u got a gift as u weren't 100%" maybe they will focus harder for nxt year...don't say "u gunna be pro!! U looked sick" ect ect... We all have to take critiscm, improve and develop thick skin.. We all SHOULD No our own flaws and not be afraid to hear the truh from our friends...
Phats

[natenator]

jerome's quads look.... fishy lol

[phatkid77]

Oh, and I don't see a problem givin away a couple pro cards... They r given away like mad in the states it seems..... HW and super.. Or atleast the overall and whatever guy presents best pkg in the LHW or higher

[phatkid77]

Whoa! Left quad is messsed

[natenator]

Oh, and I don't see a problem givin away a couple pro cards... They r given away like mad in the states it seems..... HW and super.. Or atleast the overall and whatever guy presents best pkg in the LHW or higher

the problem with the way we do things is we take a subjective sport and make it more subjective when giving out pro cards.

At the USA's this year, Steve Kulco got his pro card and arguablly you could have given one to Juan Morel as well but with how they do things, he wasn't in line for it. I'd rather people know going in who is going to get their pro cards - overall winner or weight class winners. Either or but none of this further subjective bullshit cause a guy like Loutfi is left scratching his head this year with two people getting their cards while he didn't get his last year.

[steve_d]

Hello all.
My name is Steve Marsh.
I won the Masters Light Division at this show. I am a little confused as to what happened in the Welterweight Division. If you look at the placings you will see that I beat Abdul and William (With William in fourth) for the division. Then in the Welterweight I ended up in fourth behind Abdul and William.
I am not going to comment on my condition or my competitors conditions or make any claims or accusations.
For the record. I have no issue with losing to Abdul. I consider him a good friend but I'm just not sure how this happens when the two classes were held a couple hours apart. In fact I discussed this with my friend Abdul after the show and he was at a loss as well. He came to win, rightly so, gave his best and accepted his placings in both catagories based on the judges decision.
I have asked people in the audience if my condition or my competitors conditions changed significantly during the time frame and the answer has been no. So.... I ask the question.

Can anyone in attendence explain to me what happened.

Mens Masters Light
1 - Steve Marsh MB
2 - Abdul Sagar ON
3 - Compton Austin ON
4 - William Celis ON
5 - Yves Montmarquette PQ
6 - Steve Charbonneau ON
7 - Todd Hnatiuk BC
8 - Luciano Rao ON
9 - Doug Heron ON
10 - Paul Brooker ON withdrew

Mens Welterweight
1 - Abdul Sagar ON
2 - Joshua Atsriku ON
3 - Williams Celis ON
4 - Steve Marsh MB
5 - Chris Johnson NS
6 - Jamie Peterson NB
7 - Todd Hnatiuk BC
8 - Mark Loo BC
9 - Chris Gurunlian PQ
10 - Guy Thibodeau PQ
11 - Luciano Rao ON withdrew

One of the first things I noticed when looking through the results. Funny how that can happen. Funnier, is that it is actually possible to happen without any judges being inconsistent. Difficult to explain, but if I have time, I will try to come up with a scenario...With that said, It is also highly likely that 1 or more of the judges were inconsistent with their scorings. If I had to put money on it, I would say there was inconsistency between classes, as it is very difficult to happen the other way around. Again - if I have time to illustate this example, it might shed some light. (and to be honest, this example may in fact be too extreme for it to be possible). Much easier to show an example where it is a switch of 1 placings, not 3-4.

[phatkid77]

Lmao!! Agreed.. If I was Lou I'd be ****in offiside this year..... And the problem with class winners I guess.. (I was avoiding sayin it) is like this year, seemingly weak class..then the "harder of the soft guys" wins, and isn't really pro quality...
I say we have a do over.in 4wks!!

[phatkid77]

I'm goin with impossible to explain, its a **** up... 2 things are the same...the other competitors don't matter
Steve beat abdul in one class, THEN in another adul beats him??? Doesn't add up..if anything... Steves wins the one class, then gets beat in welterweight by better competitor... Then takes 2nd, still ahead of abdul.. THAT is plausible...

[steve_d]

assume 7 judges. Cancel high and low..

Weight Division:
Competitor A places 1st, Competitor B places 2nd

Masters:
Competitor A places 4th, Competitor B places 1st

How is this possible without judging inconsistencies.

Masters:

Judge Rank_A Rank_B
1 2 1
2 1 2
3 1 2
4 3 2
5 3 2
6 2 1
7 3 4

Weight class:

Judge Rank_A Rank_B
1 2 1
2 1 5
3 1 5
4 2 1
5 3 2
6 2 1
7 1 6


If you cancel high low, above, A will get 11 points, B will get 9 points for the masters class. If you do the same thing in the weight class example, A will have 8 point, B will have 14. Complete consistency within the judges, but a different outcome. In fact the scores are similar to what happened in Steve's case. The big part responsible for this is judge 2,3, and 7, where you see competitor B had low scores even though consistent. But how did that happen? In this example, it implies in the weight class there were extra compititors who squeezed there way in between A and B, which resulted in B score driven down relative to A in those 3 judges.

So the end result is it is possible, even when judges are not out to lunch. Whether or not this happened, would require seeing the judges score cards.

[natenator]

I' studying organic chem right now and even this made my brain hurt more than the chem! lol
assume 7 judges. Cancel high and low..

Weight Division:
Competitor A places 1st, Competitor B places 2nd

Masters:
Competitor A places 4th, Competitor B places 1st

How is this possible without judging inconsistencies.

Masters:

Judge Rank_A Rank_B
1 2 1
2 1 2
3 1 2
4 3 2
5 3 2
6 2 1
7 3 4

Weight class:

Judge Rank_A Rank_B
1 2 1
2 1 5
3 1 5
4 2 1
5 3 2
6 2 1
7 1 6


If you cancel high low, above, A will get 11 points, B will get 9 points for the masters class. If you do the same thing in the weight class example, A will have 8 point, B will have 14. Complete consistency within the judges, but a different outcome. In fact the scores are similar to what happened in Steve's case. The big part responsible for this is judge 2,3, and 7, where you see competitor B had low scores even though consistent. But how did that happen? In this example, it implies in the weight class there were extra compititors who squeezed there way in between A and B, which resulted in B score driven down relative to A in those 3 judges.

So the end result is it is possible, even when judges are not out to lunch. Whether or not this happened, would require seeing the judges score cards.

[steve_d]

Oh, and by the way...Something like this actually happened while I judged a show - without judge inconsistencies.

[bluenose]

The people dissing of coverage was directed at those organizations that make money off this sport and anyone with half a brain knew that is what some meant by these comments. I've never encountered ANYONE on a forum who complains about random folk who try to update the forum membership as to what is going on. I'm pretty certain we all appreciate it when people are willing to do so, so again the dissing was not of regular folk trying to provide information to forum members - it was directed at revenue generating organizations who stand to make $ from this sport in Canada.



Oh and agree with you - huge props to Salim. Two years, two pro's. Maybe now we can all get off Darren Oliver's nut sac


This is exactly what I meant I thought it what pretty clear when I wrote it......

Comprehension of what people write on message boards is a big problem. Sometimes you have to take a step back and read before you fire off. Yes, the way we write something does impact other people. If what is being said is about them directly and specifically. Mine was about the photo coverage not about the information that was being relayed.
If you volunteer your time on your own you should be doing it because you want to do it. Not so you get a slap on the back and have people praise you to the gods!

[steve_d]

I' studying organic chem right now and even this made my brain hurt more than the chem! lol

lol...trust me, this used to make my brain hurt, and I am a senior biostatistician. But the proof is there. I will be honest, my example may not actually apply to this situation, because in order for it to be true, it means the 2nd place competitor and the 3rd place compeitor in the weight class would have to have a score BOTH in between 8 and 14...And the way I worked the numbers, it might actually not happen this way no matter how you filled in the rest of the competitors scores...But keep in mind, I did this fast to illustrate a point. And the above example would be enough to show how one can be 1&2 then switched to at least 3&1.

But even with that said. I doubt there was total consistency for Steve's case. But quite possible in Joanne's case.

[phatkid77]

How bout u get off the boards and get serious again.. I'm coming baby!! Secrets are out, magic is flying..lol

[mb07]

Well its too late to change anything. In 23 years of competing I've never complained about the judging. I understand the sport is subjective and in the end we take what is given us. The Masters Light and the Welterweight divisions were both high caliber classes. This was by all accounts a tough year and I do have empathy for the judges dealing with these classes and and the abundance of competitors with argueable very close but very different physiques. I could list 10 reasons why I feel I should have won both classes and I could also come up with a few reasons that I should have won nothing. It was that tough.
I will always be at a loss as to how I drop 3 places to the same competitors. My callouts in both classes were consistant with a top 3 finish so I just dont get it. I guess when I see the score cards I will have my answer. I just hope that answer is something legit and not a manipulation of scores in order to improve a certain persons placing to a podium finish at the expense of someone else from a different province. If that is the case then there is a deep problem with the juding of our sport at the national level.
Not making any accusations. Just confused and looking for an answer.

Steve

[steve_d]

I hope for consitency sake you at least get something similar to my example above. At the very worst, I would hope a judge did not alternate placings within a judge by more than 1 spot.

I will also admit that as a judge I have done this once (changing my vote). However, it was a local level show, and in fact I truly stood by my decision to switch placings. Again, this was a local level show, and within 2 hours, the individual must have been told how to improve his stance in a number of poses, as there was a clear change in the way he looked on stage. forgetting to flex legs for example is a big mistake often seen by first time competitors. I don't judge on potential, I judge what I see. If they change what they flex from 1 round to the next, I am not going to keep my original votes just to make the judges look good....I am as fair to the athletes as possible.

BUT, at a national show, there likely is no excuse (such as above) to change the way you see things - at least not in a couple hours. Usually at this level the athletes will not make rookie mistakes that can change the way they look in an hour, ex posing - or drinking a gallon of water & chips.

I would definitely make it a point to get the score sheets.

[Stunna]

Woof just spend 30minutes digesting all this .
Just compete no expectations eventually things will go your way

[Stunna]

Btw steve I think Greg could have dieted and taken LHW he looked solid when we spoke at the show.
Tell him get on stage 2012

[steve_d]

Btw steve I think Greg could have dieted and taken LHW he looked solid when we spoke at the show.
Tell him get on stage 2012

I think Greg would have won LHW this year, if not 2nd place. Martin Allard is always impressive.

As for 2012, I think it's in the works... He's battling injury after injury, so if he looked solid now, wait till you see what he can look like with a year of consistent training. My ultimate goal would be to be standing next to greg in the overall next year - and you never, NS might take the overall 3 years in a row. But that means we both have to win our classes. Lots of work to be done from now until then!

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Garry Bartlett recently posted this pic in facebook. I think it's the a perfect pic after the results of this show. Santana Anderson, last years Mr. Canada, Mike Johnson, this years Mr. Canada and Salim Satir, the trainer of both.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/320793_10150419176825801_583275800_10621560_105191 2089_n.jpg

[razorsedge]

Totally balanced and winning physique..congrats Mike...and all those wanting this guy to train them...line starts over there..lol. Great job by you guys..

[dainbramaged]

I thought I'd heard Santana and Salim have had a professional parting of ways? Maybe I'm wrong?

[maxpower]

I think Greg would have won LHW this year, if not 2nd place. Martin Allard is always impressive.

As for 2012, I think it's in the works... He's battling injury after injury, so if he looked solid now, wait till you see what he can look like with a year of consistent training. My ultimate goal would be to be standing next to greg in the overall next year - and you never, NS might take the overall 3 years in a row. But that means we both have to win our classes. Lots of work to be done from now until then!


This is precisely why I cant understand why he would even consider doing the provincials in 2012 when he clearly belongs on the National stage. Why sacrifice 3 months of qualify building time to do the provincials and then do the the Nationals just 4 months later??

sorry for being off topic

[steve_d]

This is precisely why I cant understand why he would even consider doing the provincials in 2012 when he clearly belongs on the National stage. Why sacrifice 3 months of qualify building time to do the provincials and then do the the Nationals just 4 months later??

sorry for being off topic

Yes...it is off topic, let's leave that issue at that. A never ending circular argument that won't be settled.

[bluenose]

I am kind of happy we are getting to see a bit of realism here... the swinging from each others nutsacks in the weeks leading up to the show was getting old... I knew it couldn't last forever... good to see the competitive nature taking over...

I miss the Carl vs Jordan Janvier days...lol

Good see you back here! Breath of fresh air...... Ahhhhhhhh.....lol

[BDH]

Good see you back here! Breath of fresh air...... Ahhhhhhhh.....lolThanks buddy... I miss this stuff... following this show just might have given me the bug again... good to see you're still around too...

[natenator]

Thanks buddy... I miss this stuff... following this show just might have given me the bug again... good to see you're still around too...Oh man those carl, jordan threads were epic lol

[BDH]

Oh man those carl, jordan threads were epic lolNo kidding... as many flame wars as there have been here, those were legit hatred... it was awesome...

[Stunna]

No kidding... as many flame wars as there have been here, those were legit hatred... it was awesome...
Jordan is quite different i miss when he lived here in ottawa, made me laugh this whole weekend at the show

[freaky abs]

Oh, and by the way...Something like this actually happened while I judged a show - without judge inconsistencies.
Yes Steve it happened at the 2010 Mr Ottawa show that you judged. It happened between Chris Ayotte and Andre Paquette. In the Masters 40+ Chris Ayotte was 1st and Andre Paquette was 2nd. But in the Light-Middle weight class Andre Paquette was 2nd and Chris Ayotte was 4th.

[Prisoner#22]

Hello all.
My name is Steve Marsh.
I won the Masters Light Division at this show. I am a little confused as to what happened in the Welterweight Division. If you look at the placings you will see that I beat Abdul and William (With William in fourth) for the division. Then in the Welterweight I ended up in fourth behind Abdul and William.
I am not going to comment on my condition or my competitors conditions or make any claims or accusations.
For the record. I have no issue with losing to Abdul. I consider him a good friend but I'm just not sure how this happens when the two classes were held a couple hours apart. In fact I discussed this with my friend Abdul after the show and he was at a loss as well. He came to win, rightly so, gave his best and accepted his placings in both catagories based on the judges decision.
I have asked people in the audience if my condition or my competitors conditions changed significantly during the time frame and the answer has been no. So.... I ask the question.

Can anyone in attendence explain to me what happened.

Mens Masters Light
1 - Steve Marsh MB
2 - Abdul Sagar ON
3 - Compton Austin ON
4 - William Celis ON
5 - Yves Montmarquette PQ
6 - Steve Charbonneau ON
7 - Todd Hnatiuk BC
8 - Luciano Rao ON
9 - Doug Heron ON
10 - Paul Brooker ON withdrew

Mens Welterweight
1 - Abdul Sagar ON
2 - Joshua Atsriku ON
3 - Williams Celis ON
4 - Steve Marsh MB
5 - Chris Johnson NS
6 - Jamie Peterson NB
7 - Todd Hnatiuk BC
8 - Mark Loo BC
9 - Chris Gurunlian PQ
10 - Guy Thibodeau PQ
11 - Luciano Rao ON withdrew

Happened to my Wife too this year at nationals.

well Steve, You know how when we watch the olympia, how comentators metion how competitors get better as the competition goes on, .... some harden up and fillout more as the posing continues, and others fade??? Get what I'm talking about? looks like you either faded, or he came on.

Cheers.

[mb07]

Happened to my Wife too this year at nationals.

well Steve, You know how when we watch the olympia, how comentators metion how competitors get better as the competition goes on, .... some harden up and fillout more as the posing continues, and others fade??? Get what I'm talking about? looks like you either faded, or he came on.

Cheers.

I have discussed this with Debbie Karpenko. She assures me there are no inconsistencies in the scorecards. I find it hard to accept that I drop 3 places off the podium but I have the utmost respect for Debbie and believe what she says to me.
Its a little difficult only because its 3 places. One place is easy to understand and accept. For the record my condition did not change. I can not comment on the others conditions as I was beside them onstage lol.

I am going to drop this subject now and be happy with the condition I achieved for the show, the people I met, the people I was reaquainted, the fact that my 10 yr old finally saw me compete (which was my main motivation for competing this time around) and with and the general good time I had.

Steve

[Stunna]

To the Absolute touch team that was the OFFICIAL TANNER For the show, you really should be ****en ashamed of your selves.

1- you are unorganized and late(make people wait in hotel rooms for hours when they have booked appointments?) we got shit to do eat focus etc
2-Make people wait show day when they made appointments?
3-amateur type work on the paint(too fast not enough coats, paint running oil running)
4- the best part was since the show was running late as most shows do, at around 3pm still morning show they leave, actually said they have to go because its taking too long. haha this one is funny to me, but when we pay for a ****en service 125$ + tax i dont care if it goes to next week you stay around and you paint everyone and sheen everyone.
5-get this they never came back for the night show? that is straight up BS and robbery.

all in all its all good there was some good people back stage to help all HW/ SHW who were ****ed by this so called offiical tanner. and i hope no one ever goes to them again.

They should just hire real Jan Tana team who do the best damn job evern to the point jan tan her self would sit and wait for you to perfect your look.

that is all

[steve_d]

Yes Steve it happened at the 2010 Mr Ottawa show that you judged. It happened between Chris Ayotte and Andre Paquette. In the Masters 40+ Chris Ayotte was 1st and Andre Paquette was 2nd. But in the Light-Middle weight class Andre Paquette was 2nd and Chris Ayotte was 4th.

yes, that was the example I am referring to, I don't remember which was which, but one of them stood out in my eyes different than the first time. If I recall, it may have been the posing of the hams vs, not. They both were that close in my mind, and in the second time around, there was 1 additional thing that put him over the edge. I got a lot of slack for that decision - as we were told not to change our placings. However, I felt it was not fair to knock him down in the 2nd round for a mistake he made in the first round, hence my changed vote. Like I said, I wanted to be fair to the athletes.


Similar to what p22 said, people can change in minutes, let alone hours. Even if the judges do switch their placings, and even if it was because they were out to lunch, they will always be able to back the decision up in either that manner, or the consistency example I showed above. Sometimes it's best to let it go - but its always fun to see score sheets regardless. Once you see a few, you begin to realize placings don't always go your way in a subjective sport. It's not always about winning.

[steve_d]

I have discussed this with Debbie Karpenko. She assures me there are no inconsistencies in the scorecards. I find it hard to accept that I drop 3 places off the podium but I have the utmost respect for Debbie and believe what she says to me.
Its a little difficult only because its 3 places. One place is easy to understand and accept. For the record my condition did not change. I can not comment on the others conditions as I was beside them onstage lol.

I am going to drop this subject now and be happy with the condition I achieved for the show, the people I met, the people I was reaquainted, the fact that my 10 yr old finally saw me compete (which was my main motivation for competing this time around) and with and the general good time I had.

Steve

3 placings, but the difference between 3 placings in 1 class might not be as large as another class. Just look at Stunna's class, the heavyweights...To be honest, there was not that much difference between the top15 or more guys...If you recall, Stunna beat Renaldo just weeks before at NAs. Any of those guys with a little improvement could win. But as Debbie said, there was no inconsistencies - and as I've shown, it is entirely possible. The judges who liked you best, continued to do so. The judges that favored the other guys physique also squeezed in a few of the new guys physique as well - causing your placings to drop a little more in that round than the other. It's confusing, but it happens.

[natenator]

Wow, thats brutal.

I would have been peaking!
To the Absolute touch team that was the OFFICIAL TANNER For the show, you really should be ****en ashamed of your selves.

1- you are unorganized and late(make people wait in hotel rooms for hours when they have booked appointments?) we got shit to do eat focus etc
2-Make people wait show day when they made appointments?
3-amateur type work on the paint(too fast not enough coats, paint running oil running)
4- the best part was since the show was running late as most shows do, at around 3pm still morning show they leave, actually said they have to go because its taking too long. haha this one is funny to me, but when we pay for a ****en service 125$ + tax i dont care if it goes to next week you stay around and you paint everyone and sheen everyone.
5-get this they never came back for the night show? that is straight up BS and robbery.

all in all its all good there was some good people back stage to help all HW/ SHW who were ****ed by this so called offiical tanner. and i hope no one ever goes to them again.

They should just hire real Jan Tana team who do the best damn job evern to the point jan tan her self would sit and wait for you to perfect your look.

that is all

[Sean Summers]

Stunna,
Yes, this is what happens when the promoter sees $$$ instead of helping out the competitors. He chose to go with 1 "official" tanner instead of charging a lesser fee and allowing more tanners in. Sad. Joe is a good guy but I think some of the promoters lose site of the athletes. I was there with my company "Tan Like the Pros". We were the first in Ontario to do the Jana Tana spray tans and we are now the first to do Liquid Sun Rayz. Ask my clients...Tim Love, Chris Johnson...etc the kind of job I do. **** I even helped out a guy last minute because someone stole his gym bag with all his supplies. Did it for free. I even oiled up one of Ron Partlow's guys - free! I don't do the tanning to make a buck - I do it to give back and to stay involved in the sport. As a National level athlete I know what you guys are going through and I give my all. Sorry it didn't work out with the other tanners.
I pride myself in the tans we provide and I strongly believe that my wife and I are the best!

[natenator]

You are definitely a classy individual. People like you are what make the sport a true brotherhood.


Stunna,
Yes, this is what happens when the promoter sees $$$ instead of helping out the competitors. He chose to go with 1 "official" tanner instead of charging a lesser fee and allowing more tanners in. Sad. Joe is a good guy but I think some of the promoters lose site of the athletes. I was there with my company "Tan Like the Pros". We were the first in Ontario to do the Jana Tana spray tans and we are now the first to do Liquid Sun Rayz. Ask my clients...Tim Love, Chris Johnson...etc the kind of job I do. **** I even helped out a guy last minute because someone stole his gym bag with all his supplies. Did it for free. I even oiled up one of Ron Partlow's guys - free! I don't do the tanning to make a buck - I do it to give back and to stay involved in the sport. As a National level athlete I know what you guys are going through and I give my all. Sorry it didn't work out with the other tanners.
I pride myself in the tans we provide and I strongly believe that my wife and I are the best!

[mb07]

To the Absolute touch team that was the OFFICIAL TANNER For the show, you really should be ****en ashamed of your selves.

1- you are unorganized and late(make people wait in hotel rooms for hours when they have booked appointments?) we got shit to do eat focus etc
2-Make people wait show day when they made appointments?
3-amateur type work on the paint(too fast not enough coats, paint running oil running)
4- the best part was since the show was running late as most shows do, at around 3pm still morning show they leave, actually said they have to go because its taking too long. haha this one is funny to me, but when we pay for a ****en service 125$ + tax i dont care if it goes to next week you stay around and you paint everyone and sheen everyone.
5-get this they never came back for the night show? that is straight up BS and robbery.

all in all its all good there was some good people back stage to help all HW/ SHW who were ****ed by this so called offiical tanner. and i hope no one ever goes to them again.

They should just hire real Jan Tana team who do the best damn job evern to the point jan tan her self would sit and wait for you to perfect your look.

that is all


I have to disagree with this. I found them to be relatively on time and in some instances early. They were very helpful backstage as well and I never had any issue with touch ups or glaze. As a competitor it does take some planning/forethought of your own to ensure you get touched up/glazed in time. I would simply wait until the line up for touch up/glaze was short then line up. I would do this well in advance of my weight class since the touch up and glaze last until you put clothing on. Never had any issues except for color running but I believe that was only because of the extreme heat on that stage especially in the afternoon. Any color will run if you are sweating that much.
I will agree that they did leave a little early however although it was well after 3 if I recall. Kind of sucked for the guys in the Welter and later classes who needed glaze.

[Stunna]

I have to disagree with this. I found them to be relatively on time and in some instances early. They were very helpful backstage as well and I never had any issue with touch ups or glaze. As a competitor it does take some planning/forethought of your own to ensure you get touched up/glazed in time. I would simply wait until the line up for touch up/glaze was short then line up. I would do this well in advance of my weight class since the touch up and glaze last until you put clothing on. Never had any issues except for color running but I believe that was only because of the extreme heat on that stage especially in the afternoon. Any color will run if you are sweating that much.
I will agree that they did leave a little early however although it was well after 3 if I recall. Kind of sucked for the guys in the Welter and later classes who needed glaze.

dude im in a HW or SHW i go on at 4 you should be there i shoudnt have to find some one to do this, and not coming back for night show thats pathetic, Jan tan official tanners were best jan tana her self woudl do it if she needed to. All im saying you provide service you stick around

[Stunna]

Stunna,
Yes, this is what happens when the promoter sees $$$ instead of helping out the competitors. He chose to go with 1 "official" tanner instead of charging a lesser fee and allowing more tanners in. Sad. Joe is a good guy but I think some of the promoters lose site of the athletes. I was there with my company "Tan Like the Pros". We were the first in Ontario to do the Jana Tana spray tans and we are now the first to do Liquid Sun Rayz. Ask my clients...Tim Love, Chris Johnson...etc the kind of job I do. **** I even helped out a guy last minute because someone stole his gym bag with all his supplies. Did it for free. I even oiled up one of Ron Partlow's guys - free! I don't do the tanning to make a buck - I do it to give back and to stay involved in the sport. As a National level athlete I know what you guys are going through and I give my all. Sorry it didn't work out with the other tanners.
I pride myself in the tans we provide and I strongly believe that my wife and I are the best!

Respect to you Sean

[RamJam]

I want to thank Dan and his team of Tan Like Pros for eliminating any additional stress i needed that weekend by providing excellent service making sure I look my very best. Dan took his time, provided 2 coats, and it did not cost me anywhere close to $125+tax. I only paid for the spray tanning service and i did not expect him to be backstage providing touch ups! He was also kind enough to help others touch ups as well. More importantly I arrived 1 hour late for my appointment sat night, due to the atheletes meeting, and Dan told me not to worry and to take my time b/c it will get done. I hope to see you again in Edmonton.

As for me, it was my debut appearance in the HW div. 196lbs last year weighins/208lbs this year weighins. I placed 16th. My trainer Jeremy Miskinis and I will keep making improvements because I am going to keep plugging away at this division and keep moving up the ranks. I had an excellent experience, met many great people, and am happy to have pancakes with syrup with my kids again!
See you in Edmonton.
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[MuSuLPhReAk]

Stunna,
**** I even helped out a guy last minute because someone stole his gym bag with all his supplies.

Jeez, how low can someone get to do that at a National level show :wtf

[MuSuLPhReAk]

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[fitfanatik]

Quality pix...thnx...a very tough show to judge as usual.

Anyone know if the lightmiddle class will be brought back?

Here's future pro backstage before the night show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dC51sDZ2mk

I am still curious as to how the judges view pectoral muscle tears?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORF3RIp8r7M


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsTQfwXfyLU

...o well..it is what it is...moving/looking forward.

[Stunna]

Here some pics from Prejudge, im happy with how i looked was crisp and hard could have been fuller but the show was draggin so long didnt have enough food to keep my state. Was my third show of the year and weighed 5lbs more than june show and about 10 more from last year. Ive got a good gameplan this offseason really take my food intake seriously and i can easily put another 10.

[Praetorian]

Stunna,
Yes, this is what happens when the promoter sees $$$ instead of helping out the competitors. He chose to go with 1 "official" tanner instead of charging a lesser fee and allowing more tanners in. Sad. Joe is a good guy but I think some of the promoters lose site of the athletes. I was there with my company "Tan Like the Pros". We were the first in Ontario to do the Jana Tana spray tans and we are now the first to do Liquid Sun Rayz. Ask my clients...Tim Love, Chris Johnson...etc the kind of job I do. **** I even helped out a guy last minute because someone stole his gym bag with all his supplies. Did it for free. I even oiled up one of Ron Partlow's guys - free! I don't do the tanning to make a buck - I do it to give back and to stay involved in the sport. As a National level athlete I know what you guys are going through and I give my all. Sorry it didn't work out with the other tanners.
I pride myself in the tans we provide and I strongly believe that my wife and I are the best!


Dan was the best...he did my tanning and oil up etc....even worked it out to do it in the afternoon on Saturday. AT the show he was spot on and all i did was text him when i was ready and he was there in 2 min...oiled me up, checked for streaks etc and i was ready to go....very very professional and the colour of Liquid Sun Rayz is so much better the Jan Tana or Pro tan!!

I highly recommend Dan Kennedy for anyone looking for the best service and colour!

Thanks Dan!
P

[Ron Partlow]

Stunna,
Yes, this is what happens when the promoter sees $$$ instead of helping out the competitors. He chose to go with 1 "official" tanner instead of charging a lesser fee and allowing more tanners in. Sad. Joe is a good guy but I think some of the promoters lose site of the athletes. I was there with my company "Tan Like the Pros". We were the first in Ontario to do the Jana Tana spray tans and we are now the first to do Liquid Sun Rayz. Ask my clients...Tim Love, Chris Johnson...etc the kind of job I do. **** I even helped out a guy last minute because someone stole his gym bag with all his supplies. Did it for free. I even oiled up one of Ron Partlow's guys - free! I don't do the tanning to make a buck - I do it to give back and to stay involved in the sport. As a National level athlete I know what you guys are going through and I give my all. Sorry it didn't work out with the other tanners.
I pride myself in the tans we provide and I strongly believe that my wife and I are the best!

THANKS a lot for that Dan. I was shocked when my guy told me that the tanners had packed up and left the building, and he had no one to help oil or prep him for stage. I went looking for a random bottle of oil, and that when I saw you working on Lou's guy.

Next time the show is out your way, if your company is spraying, I will have all my guys use you. I wasn't really aware of the situation until the night show.

BTW, his oil and color were great at night.

Ron

[fitfanatik]

Here's a link to some 89 photos by Martin Rainbow of yours truly.

CLICK HERE FOR FACEBOOK MEDIA SET (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150852560390467.740780.641050466&type=3)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49eKy_eVwiA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfxTUJ94x68


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6snM401y0tY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzPgrTgwbdk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lARtCns1vw

We all need to thank Fathommm for all the video footage...she is 4.5 weeks out from the Sandra Wickham

...and 3 sleeps to the WBFF EDMONTON!

[Stunna]

Good seein you ron

[Ron Partlow]

Good seein you ron

Ya, thanks man. Good seeing you compete. You looked great. It was a lot of fun to see a Nationals from a different perspective. Good to see so many great people that I don't normally have the time to chat with at Nationals.

[fitfanatik]

Links to photo collections by Martin Rainbow!

TIM LOVE PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150854936650467.741219.641050466&type=1)

JOANNE WILLIAMS PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150854847845467.741206.641050466&type=1)

TONY SEARLE PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150854608270467.741157.641050466&type=1)

MIKE JOHNSON PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150854597570467.741155.641050466&type=1)

WENDY MCMASTER PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150854574920467.741152.641050466&type=1)

ADAM HEADLAND PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150854574920467.741152.641050466&type=1)

SHANE ROBERTS PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150852657855467.740801.641050466&type=1)

TODD HNATIUK PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150852560390467.740780.641050466&type=1)

DAWN ALISON PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150852451795467.740752.641050466&type=1)

MIX OF MIDDLE TO SUPER HEAVY PHOTOS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150847297315467.739669.641050466&type=1)

[MuSuLPhReAk]

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[jacknare]

Martin Allard Winner Master Heavy Weight, Winner Light Heavyweight, Pro-card


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=389YU0gdTqA

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Great quality video. Thanks!!!

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Masters Middleweight


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMwL8FC3l0Q

[jacknare]

The next video, Princess Québécoise Fabiola Bélanger !

[fitfanatik]

The next video, Princess Québécoise Fabiola Bélanger !

Thanks for the vids!!! Looking forward to the next...quit teasin'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MSpkfb2dfM&feature=related

[MuSuLPhReAk]

The next video, Princess Québécoise Fabiola Bélanger !

Haha, nice. Got it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2p2dxSes3c

[fitfanatik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98tBenbkCKg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5zpGT9IzUM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wXuEMzbs7w

[varking]

281052810628107

My Boy Not ready eh.....

[jacknare]

Fabiola Boulanger IFBB Pro
It shall not go ben! Ok .. Should I share my story. Thursday of this week
I'm going to turn the television's most watched Quebec ... all
speaking world !!!!!

http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/tout_le_monde_en_parle/saison8/

Following the email I sent them, and the call from my friend photographer Dominique
Lafond, I managed to get a spot on the biggest talk show in the province! too
cool! So I need all your energy on Thursday night for the shooting. then
The show will air this Sunday at 20h on Radio-Canada.

All I want these days to materialize. I really am living proof that nothing
is impossible! Believe in your dreams and be good! Life will reward you!
http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/tout_le_monde_en_parle/saison8/
www.radio-canada.ca

[razorsedge]

281052810628107

My Boy Not ready eh.....

Isn't this the young fellow who got 2nd in class (lhw or hw)....Tony I think ....going to be awesome. Heard only 22 yrs old...unlimited potential here. Really liked his stage confidence and presence..not cocky but just confident..

[natenator]

Isn't this the young fellow who got 2nd in class (lhw or hw)....Tony I think ....going to be awesome. Heard only 22 yrs old...unlimited potential here. Really liked his stage confidence and presence..not cocky but just confident..

He's just bellyaching because many here suggested Tony wouldn't be ready for the National stage conditioning wise because, well, he's proven us right in pretty much every show he has done but I am glad to see he finally figured out what was needed and did it. Great on him. No one ever denied his potential - just his willingness to bring what was needed.

For discussion sake, do we think he will have unlimited potential given his shortcomings (height) as a barrier to really excelling? There's only so much you can do with a shorter frame as have been proven in the past. Branch seems to be one bucking the trend (Priest and Ray as well to an extent as well I suppose) yet I am pretty sure most everyone would agree his physique is plain ugly. If he was 5'9 or 5'10 instead of 5'6 he just might have won an Olympia already. Thoughts?

[steve_d]

height is definitely going to limit anyone. I am not sure how tall tony is, but I would put a limit on his potential at being say the under 212 division. I really think that beyond that body weight, his frame will start to look 'wrong'. Anyone know what he weighed for nationals?

Keep in mind, I think he looks great - I am just being critical. With that said, if Tony can continue to make improvements for the next 5 year steadily, then yes, he could be good enough to have a shot at turning pro - and if he's under 212, then he has a shot at doing decent in that division if he can continue to compete 'in shape'. I think he will need say another 20 pounds of muscle and come in a little leaner before he is a contender in the 'overall'.

[Delt King]

height is definitely going to limit anyone. I am not sure how tall tony is, but I would put a limit on his potential at being say the under 212 division. I really think that beyond that body weight, his frame will start to look 'wrong'. Anyone know what he weighed for nationals?

Keep in mind, I think he looks great - I am just being critical. With that said, if Tony can continue to make improvements for the next 5 year steadily, then yes, he could be good enough to have a shot at turning pro - and if he's under 212, then he has a shot at doing decent in that division if he can continue to compete 'in shape'. I think he will need say another 20 pounds of muscle and come in a little leaner before he is a contender in the 'overall'.

I seen Tony weigh in just ahead of me and Martin Allard at 192. He has great balance to his physique...i little too wide in the waist to be pretty but that's just my opinion. As far as potential pro...that would be a good bet within 5 yrs

[Andre Gregoire]

281052810628107

My Boy Not ready eh.....

Judging from only these 3 pics, pro potential for sure, IMO.

[varking]

Hard to say he wont be a pro within 5 years! But time will tell. He was beaten by a pro in the LHW who in many peoples option should of been Mrs
Canada but hey how can you give a guy two pro cards lol.
I think many people have gotten a lot of respect for Tony after this show. He made a huge splash and turned heads.
I can't wait to see what he can do with a whole off-season of growing for the first time in his career!
I'll keep you posted on his upcoming plans and what not.
Also like to say many people think Canadian bodybuilders can't touch the U.S bodybuilders.... well come watch the nationals. Canada is on the map
big time!!!

[fitfanatik]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zN4zcjuPHY&feature=BFa&list=HL1318954388&lf=mh_lolz

[razorsedge]

Hard to say he wont be a pro within 5 years! But time will tell. He was beaten by a pro in the LHW who in many peoples option should of been Mrs
Canada but hey how can you give a guy two pro cards lol.
I think many people have gotten a lot of respect for Tony after this show. He made a huge splash and turned heads.
I can't wait to see what he can do with a whole off-season of growing for the first time in his career!
I'll keep you posted on his upcoming plans and what not.
Also like to say many people think Canadian bodybuilders can't touch the U.S bodybuilders.... well come watch the nationals. Canada is on the map
big time!!!

I was really impressed with this guy...at 22, he has lots of time to learn and change his physique to meet the standards he has too. AS far as making a huge splash, I have to agree with you for sure.

The Canadians this year would probably rate as the top show in Canada...ever..to date and there were some incredible physiques that could compete in any amateur show...yep...even in the US.

[gregdoucette]

Have not been on for months but interesting to read all the posts on the nationals. I was there about as close as u could get. The results were prety much exactly what I picked except for only a few people. The light master winner. I think I remember expecting him to get 2nd in masters and 3rd in the open class. Its totally different when ur getting compared to different people. In the audience for example when Mike the overall winner first came out I figured he would end up around 4th. Then whne he posed with the other guys he was just so much leaner in comparison. So basically he kept looking better> i expected him to be in the top 2 and so the judges went with conditioning over pure mass. Not that suprising really. At nationals they usually go for conditioning. In the overall it was very clsoe for the 3 top guys. Any of the 3 I could of seen winning. In light heavy martin allard dominated by more thne any other class, he was by far the best. Alot of people comented on the 2nd place light heavy, I had him in 3rd or 4th. For future pro contenders its clearly jerome and antoines to lose. They both just need to forget about mass and come in ripped. ANtoine looked way better at the night show then in the morning but judging is in the morning. The 2nd place heavy was really lean and could be pro in the future. The heavyweight class was the most competitive in my oppinion, just imagine if mike johnson had decided not to make weight and go super. would have been an even crazzier heavyweight class. the Womens overall winner absolutely killed it and should be a good pro from the get go. Mike johnson has really good genetics and a really good back and great conditioning and just needs another 3 yrs of good training and should be a good pro. He is only like 30 or so and I know has alot of good yrs to improve so I think down the road he could be one of the top pros in canada. Oh and a vote for best winner at nationals all time. I dunno but i liked freaky fready, I forget his full name but man i loved his physique the yr he won but he has not competed since. Mike plats I was a fan of for sure. As far as all the pro cards. I think they are just going about giving the pro cards the wrong way. We all no the their are 2 pro weight classes nezxt yr 212 and under 212. The heavyweight class should start at 212 and the winner get a pro card and the best guy under 212 get a pro card simple as that. Masters overall winner should get a pro card too I think. this elite showdown kinda waters down the competition. Id rather win a pro card by winning at nationals but Id probablhy do both shows for fun.

[freaky abs]

Have not been on for months but interesting to read all the posts on the nationals. I was there about as close as u could get. The results were prety much exactly what I picked except for only a few people. The light master winner. I think I remember expecting him to get 2nd in masters and 3rd in the open class. Its totally different when ur getting compared to different people. In the audience for example when Mike the overall winner first came out I figured he would end up around 4th. Then whne he posed with the other guys he was just so much leaner in comparison. So basically he kept looking better> i expected him to be in the top 2 and so the judges went with conditioning over pure mass. Not that suprising really. At nationals they usually go for conditioning. In the overall it was very clsoe for the 3 top guys. Any of the 3 I could of seen winning. In light heavy martin allard dominated by more thne any other class, he was by far the best. Alot of people comented on the 2nd place light heavy, I had him in 3rd or 4th. For future pro contenders its clearly jerome and antoines to lose. They both just need to forget about mass and come in ripped. ANtoine looked way better at the night show then in the morning but judging is in the morning. The 2nd place heavy was really lean and could be pro in the future. The heavyweight class was the most competitive in my oppinion, just imagine if mike johnson had decided not to make weight and go super. would have been an even crazzier heavyweight class. the Womens overall winner absolutely killed it and should be a good pro from the get go. Mike johnson has really good genetics and a really good back and great conditioning and just needs another 3 yrs of good training and should be a good pro. He is only like 30 or so and I know has alot of good yrs to improve so I think down the road he could be one of the top pros in canada. Oh and a vote for best winner at nationals all time. I dunno but i liked freaky fready, I forget his full name but man i loved his physique the yr he won but he has not competed since. Mike plats I was a fan of for sure. As far as all the pro cards. I think they are just going about giving the pro cards the wrong way. We all no the their are 2 pro weight classes nezxt yr 212 and under 212. The heavyweight class should start at 212 and the winner get a pro card and the best guy under 212 get a pro card simple as that. Masters overall winner should get a pro card too I think. this elite showdown kinda waters down the competition. Id rather win a pro card by winning at nationals but Id probablhy do both shows for fun. "Freaky" Freddy Antwi was his name. He beat Mike Platz in 1999 and won the overall.

[phatkid77]

U nuthugger varking!! Lol!
I totally agree with Natenators assessment..no one was hating on Tony..just wanted him to come in crisp for once..and he did.. And look what happened,
And if I'm not mistaken, Tony isn't a midget guys.. He's no shorter than 5'8... I'd say 5'9. Varking verify.. He's just blesses with good insertions and such so his arms don't look long.. Looks thick and short..

Also, lookin at pics last nite.... Antoine was robbed in my opinion..they didn't want freaky mass on this nite, then antoin was bigger than johnson and wasn't like he was out of shape either.. Ans screw the "judging in the am" he was drastically different and should count for something.. Does @ the O.. And the damn show was super long. Hard to keep or hit peak I bet

Anyone know what johnson weighed and how tall he is

Phats

[fitfanatik]

More pics from Martin Rainbow!

ABDUL SAGAR (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150862342770467.742875.641050466&type=1)

HASSAN JAMA (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150862290390467.742867.641050466&type=3)

ZANE WATSON (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150861021635467.742632.641050466&type=3)

RYAN LETWIN (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150860945975467.742609.641050466&type=3)

ANTOINE VAILLANT (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150859915730467.742292.641050466&type=3)

MARKO ZABORAC (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150859876145467.742275.641050466&type=1)

MIKE FERRER (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150859851495467.742269.641050466&type=1)

Thanks for your analysis Greg...was nice to meet you...anything more you can add to your commentary of the light master and welter class?

..your thoughts on Steve Marsh going from 1st to 4th in and hour...and any critique u wanna do on me as well...i can take it

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Have not been on for months but interesting to read all the posts on the nationals. I was there about as close as u could get. The results were prety much exactly what I picked except for only a few people. The light master winner. I think I remember expecting him to get 2nd in masters and 3rd in the open class. Its totally different when ur getting compared to different people. In the audience for example when Mike the overall winner first came out I figured he would end up around 4th. Then whne he posed with the other guys he was just so much leaner in comparison. So basically he kept looking better> i expected him to be in the top 2 and so the judges went with conditioning over pure mass. Not that suprising really. At nationals they usually go for conditioning. In the overall it was very clsoe for the 3 top guys. Any of the 3 I could of seen winning. In light heavy martin allard dominated by more thne any other class, he was by far the best. Alot of people comented on the 2nd place light heavy, I had him in 3rd or 4th. For future pro contenders its clearly jerome and antoines to lose. They both just need to forget about mass and come in ripped. ANtoine looked way better at the night show then in the morning but judging is in the morning. The 2nd place heavy was really lean and could be pro in the future. The heavyweight class was the most competitive in my oppinion, just imagine if mike johnson had decided not to make weight and go super. would have been an even crazzier heavyweight class. the Womens overall winner absolutely killed it and should be a good pro from the get go. Mike johnson has really good genetics and a really good back and great conditioning and just needs another 3 yrs of good training and should be a good pro. He is only like 30 or so and I know has alot of good yrs to improve so I think down the road he could be one of the top pros in canada. Oh and a vote for best winner at nationals all time. I dunno but i liked freaky fready, I forget his full name but man i loved his physique the yr he won but he has not competed since. Mike plats I was a fan of for sure. As far as all the pro cards. I think they are just going about giving the pro cards the wrong way. We all no the their are 2 pro weight classes nezxt yr 212 and under 212. The heavyweight class should start at 212 and the winner get a pro card and the best guy under 212 get a pro card simple as that. Masters overall winner should get a pro card too I think. this elite showdown kinda waters down the competition. Id rather win a pro card by winning at nationals but Id probablhy do both shows for fun.

Thanks for the review Greg. Here's the Freaky Freddy profile Freddy Antwi (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/showthread.php?13658-Freddy-Antwi-Mr.-Canada-1999-IFBB-Pro)

[steve_d]

then antoin was bigger than johnson and wasn't like he was out of shape either.. Ans screw the "judging in the am" he was drastically different and should count for something.. Does @ the O.. And the damn show was super long. Hard to keep or hit peak I bet

Anyone know what johnson weighed and how tall he is

Phats

You can't just 'screw the am judging'...! If they had to rejudged at night, it would again add about 4-5 hours to the night show. Which already goes into the middle of the night. I think its silly that they would judge twice at any show, unless the classes were so small that you actually could zip through it in an hour. It's just too bad for those that get leaner at night - but that is the name of the game. You have to peak at the right time - judging! I myself lost a show because I was soft in the am, and ripped at night. The consulation prize for me was the audience booing when I wasnt' called in first - and I didn't even know 1 person in the audience. But lesson learned, show up ripped at prejuding. Perhaps cost Antoine a pro card and overall win, much more costly than a measly trophy!

I believe mike weighed in at 224, and re-weighed a few moments later at just over 225 to get into super heavies. Had he been in the heavyweights, the entire show could have been totally different. I won't get into any more complicated explanations why, but it goes back to the judging system, ranks, etc. And the fact that the overall is judged much differently than the class. most firsts win the overall...whereas a class winner could in fact have no first place votes. Anyway, Mike re-weighing might have been the smartest move of the night! Ex. he may have had the more first place votes against renaldo, but had he been in the class itself, renaldo may have actually won the class even without the most 1st place votes. We'll never know! Although, the simple fact that mike had straight firsts against two great SHWs goes to show that there was something about him the judges really liked. So my whole hypothetical scenerio probably wouldn't have happened. I think Mike was winning no matter what.

[bluenose]

Did they change the weight cut off again or am I mistaken? I thought the SHW was 220 and over not 225lbs.

[steve_d]

pretty sure 225. hasnt it always been 225?

[gregdoucette]

Hey Todd, If I saw the pics of the competitors i could much more easily give an accurate assesment as i forget alot. I do remember thinking that abdul would win. I remmber thinking he would be close. I remeber thinking that the celis guy had the best build but does not even come in with provincial level definition. He would easily have won had he dieted for another month. Celis shape is so good that i expected him to place about 3rd. AS for urself I was picking u to finish ini the exact spot that u finsihed in both classes. The call outs make it easy as if ur not in the first callout u cant be in the first callout placings. Really ur weakness would be legs, just not enough mass and sweep. Check out celis in comparison. And definitiuon could still improve even though u were not far off being shreded. If I were steve m.. Id just be happy as hell that I won my class and forget the other class. It really could flip flop so easy cus ur picking out completely different bodies. I rembmer not liking his posing. He posed like old school and never seemed to get into it. Kinda like the classical posing style from back in the day. Id compare it to me going on the beach and seeing some girls walk by and thinking one girl was the hotest and then when they walk back to their towels 20 minutes later another girl stood out more. Its really just to close and too completely diff. physiques to be able to constantly placve everyone the same. im sure a diff set of judges would have had diff placings as well. Its not like powerlifting where its easy to see who wins its more liek a beauty pageant.

[varking]

Hey Phatz I think tonys 5`8-5`9.
I also thought SHW was 220lbs

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Fabiola Boulanger IFBB Pro
It shall not go ben! Ok .. Should I share my story. Thursday of this week
I'm going to turn the television's most watched Quebec ... all
speaking world !!!!!

http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/tout_le_monde_en_parle/saison8/

Following the email I sent them, and the call from my friend photographer Dominique
Lafond, I managed to get a spot on the biggest talk show in the province! too
cool! So I need all your energy on Thursday night for the shooting. then
The show will air this Sunday at 20h on Radio-Canada.

All I want these days to materialize. I really am living proof that nothing
is impossible! Believe in your dreams and be good! Life will reward you!
http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/tout_le_monde_en_parle/saison8/
www.radio-canada.ca

Nice.

[fitfanatik]

Thanks Greg...here are a few pics from the morning.


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2888/abdulsidechaest.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/abdulsidechaest.jpg/) http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5711/sidecheststage.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/sidecheststage.jpg/)
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5148/abdulmost.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/abdulmost.jpg/)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3667/30536010150852576600467.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/30536010150852576600467.jpg/)
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1958/abdulfrntlat.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/abdulfrntlat.jpg/)
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4792/frontlatspread2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/frontlatspread2.jpg/)
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4708/abdulbackdbbi.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/abdulbackdbbi.jpg/)
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8274/backbi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/backbi4.jpg/)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4782/abdulfrntdblbi.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/abdulfrntdblbi.jpg/)
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4928/30509710150852582640467.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/30509710150852582640467.jpg/)
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4721/abdulsidetri.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/abdulsidetri.jpg/)
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/733/30124410150852581000467.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/30124410150852581000467.jpg/)

I am thinking powerlifting is the way to go! Better get back squattin'!!!

[Stunna]

Did they change the weight cut off again or am I mistaken? I thought the SHW was 220 and over not 225lbs.

225 the OPA was 220

[BigGuns21]

Hey Phatz I think tonys 5`8-5`9.
I also thought SHW was 220lbs

I'm 5'8 on a good day and I'm just a hair taller than tony, so he's 5'7" and change. Tony was 100% second place at the show, he wasn't a close 3rd or 4th, definitely 2nd. Martin was 100% first as well. Tony is blessed with a great set of wheels and I actually think his looked fuller and rounder than Martin's, but conditioning wise they were pretty close. Tony held his own in the back poses with him too, but the muscle maturity from the front really showed on Martin, especially his Jay Cutler'ish chest, which is also Tony's week spot. Tony's just a kid, if he stays consistant he's gonna be a machine by his late 20's. No shame at all in placing 2nd to an IFBB Pro.
Also, NA's and Canadian's are 225 cut off for HW, regional and provincials are 220.

[Ron Partlow]

The cut off for Supers has flip flopped at Nationals a few times, from 220-225. They have moved it around. The problem is that the US uses 225lb, while the rest of the world uses 100kg (220lbs).

I guess they are using 225lb pretty consistently now.

[mb07]

If I were steve m.. Id just be happy as hell that I won my class and forget the other class. It really could flip flop so easy cus ur picking out completely different bodies. I rembmer not liking his posing.

Greg
Be happy and move forward. Thats precisely what I've decided to do. I realized my posing was a bit off and thankfully that's something that is relatively easy to fix. There were so many time constraints and personal challenges unrelated to bodybuilding during my prep this year that the energy and time for proper posing prep did lack.
Thanks for the advice and observations

Steve

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[Stunna]

i agree with Bigguns21, Toney is like 2 inches or so shorter than me im like 5'9 and some. I think at like 210-215 hell be really complete as long as he fills up where he needs to.

[jacknare]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUpFcd0jhhU