Test E / Tren E / Winny cycle

[War]

Hey all,

Im currently on a 400mg Test E per week, 300mg Tren E per week and 350mg Winny Tabs per week / 2.5mg Letro per day cycle. I am on my 6th week. I brought in the winny and letro (gyno signs) 5 days ago and ive got nothing but black bags under my eyes and my eyes are constantly sore. I get ample sleep, average 8-9hrs a day. Im thinking its the letro over the winny?

I am administering the oils twice a week and the winny 25mg x 2 per day with 2.5mg letro per day.

Anyone got an ideas?

btw, new on the forum. Lots of good information in here!

War

[Praetorian]

Hey all,

Im currently on a 400mg Test E per week, 300mg Tren E per week and 350mg Winny Tabs per week / 2.5mg Letro per day cycle. I am on my 6th week. I brought in the winny and letro (gyno signs) 5 days ago and ive got nothing but black bags under my eyes and my eyes are constantly sore. I get ample sleep, average 8-9hrs a day. Im thinking its the letro over the winny?

I am administering the oils twice a week and the winny 25mg x 2 per day with 2.5mg letro per day.

Anyone got an ideas?

btw, new on the forum. Lots of good information in here!

War


If you are off season then you definitely dont need the winny...drop it and save it for when you are dieting. You also probably dont need the letro on that amount of test...with AI's you only use them if you have to off season.
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[War]

If you are off season then you definitely dont need the winny...drop it and save it for when you are dieting. You also probably dont need the letro on that amount of test...with AI's you only use them if you have to off season.
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Are you saying that in a sense of the test being low dosage? I got the letro cause I have signs of gyno appearing behind my left nipple. Using it as a treatment per say, not a blocker. Am I not going about this the correct way?

Also, im no bodybuilder. 6ft, 222lbs, prob 14-15% BF. I dont have an on or off season. I usually just incorporate 2 or 3, 12 -15 week cycles per year to my routine.

As far as the black bags issue...could this be the letro?

[Praetorian]

Are you saying that in a sense of the test being low dosage? I got the letro cause I have signs of gyno appearing behind my left nipple. Using it as a treatment per say, not a blocker. Am I not going about this the correct way?

Also, im no bodybuilder. 6ft, 222lbs, prob 14-15% BF. I dont have an on or off season. I usually just incorporate 2 or 3, 12 -15 week cycles per year to my routine.

As far as the black bags issue...could this be the letro?

If you are seeing signs of gyno then yes use the letro...and yes normally you wouldnt use an AI with under 500mg weekly of test unless you are encountering sides. With your BF % being that high cosmetic hardeners such as winny are a waste of money...they exhibit their best effects on a lean physique. I doubt the letro is causing the bags...are you getting 8 hours per night?
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[ironwill]

Check your hydration levels as well, are you peeing more yellow than normal, try and get plenty of water through the day......Black bags apear on me when im getting dehydrated....

[War]

Check your hydration levels as well, are you peeing more yellow than normal, try and get plenty of water through the day......Black bags apear on me when im getting dehydrated....

That very well could be it! Thanks

Looking for some advice with this as well please

Im looking at making a change.

I want to switch to EQ at 600mg/week
and Tren A at 100mg EOD

Would switching to Test Cyp be waste full? I was thinking 600mg/week

So dropping the winny, the long ester Tren.

So 600mg/week EQ, 600mg/week Test Cyp and 300mg of Tren A / week. Run that for another 10 weeks.

Ive taken the letro for what 2 weeks now? sensativity is gone, but small hard lump is not. Wait it out I assume? I just dont want to use too much Letro

[z83]

You're gyno could be from the trenbolone. Look for cabergoline/bromocriptine. Letro isn't effective for prolactin issues (assuming it's from the tren)

[War]

Ya I did think of that too. Not sure if I can get my hands on caber...

[theboss]

Ya I did think of that too. Not sure if I can get my hands on caber...

caber is one of the harder things to find...get some vitamin B6

[War]

B6 hey? I do actually take B6 a couple times a week with my Vit C. The lump has def subsided. I'm sure it will be back though as I dont plan on removing Tren for at least 10-12 more weeks. I'll run the Cyp and EQ for closer to 20 weeks.

[Feenom]

sorry replied in wrong thread

[CDN_Ecto]

I would be doing at least 500mg test EW or even 600mg EW as it seems you have experience. I find the tren a real drag on the libido with not enough test.

[War]

Started yesterday. 600mg Cyp, 600mg EQ, EW with 4 shots of Tren A a week (50mg per shot. My libido on Tren E was not effected, in fact I was 16 all over again haha. I think Tren A is a bigger libido culprit.