List of Natural Competitions

[ubcpower]

For those in the know, I am looking for the most comprehensive list of natural competitions for bodybuilding/fitness model in Canada for 2011. Ideally, this list comprises all diff organizations that do drug testing...etc. (INBF, FAME,...etc)
Thanks

[Andre Gregoire]

This has a bunch of them: naturalbodybuildingevents.com/Intl/canada.htm

[steve_d]

there wont be too much out there for 2011 yet, but the link angre put out should give you an idea - since many are approx same time each year

[ubcpower]

thanks guys

[O-Train]

planning on competing?

[ubcpower]

ya i had a set back last 2 years and i now think i have the time to do it in early summer of 2011.
**** though, there is absolutely **** all in BC from May-July. That would be an ideal time for it.

[gettinbigger]

You might want to check out what's available in WA. I know a guy who competes every year in the INBF Washington State Championships. Which I think is early Aug. And if I remember correctly they do polygraphs for this contest.

[ubcpower]

You might want to check out what's available in WA. I know a guy who competes every year in the INBF Washington State Championships. Which I think is early Aug. And if I remember correctly they do polygraphs for this contest.

ya , i was thinking of some of their organzations. i know that they have a washington ironman that is tested also. ill look in to it.

[shredded_Tris]

You might want to check out what's available in WA. I know a guy who competes every year in the INBF Washington State Championships. Which I think is early Aug. And if I remember correctly they do polygraphs for this contest.

That polygraph thing is a JOKE!!! I took a buddy of mine to the IDFA Montreal Classic in 2009 and they hand you an F-ing Piece of paper that says a list of shit and you say yes or no to taking it. THAT WAS THE TEST. WTF. Thats when my buddy got completely discouraged and stopped competing. He doesn't want to do another show, he is one of those types of guys that gets really pissed when he has to compete against somebody that is "enhanced".

I'm not trying to discourage you from competing bro because they do still filter out a fair amount of guys and it would be a little more fair. However I just don't wanna see you have a bad experience because somebody on gear shows up and nobody says anything.

[ubcpower]

I hear ya, however, i dont really care about winning or anyone that cheats. i diet down every summer anyways, would like a tangible goal to diet for next summer regardless. because of health issues at the moment i cant be 'enhanced' so would like to do one that is somewhat 'natural', i am not naive.

[O-Train]

Try to find a less popular show. The juiced guys go for the big high exposure shows or the ones where they hand out prize $$$. I should compete again too. Just hard to justify the time commitment.

[ubcpower]

i havent ruled out the Mens fitness model too...Lol
I would feel very queer but itd be something to diet for atleast.
i attended the WBFF last year in vancouver and some of the fitness guys could have blown away the bodybuilders

[Andre Gregoire]

i attended the WBFF last year in vancouver and some of the fitness guys could have blown the bodybuilders

Fixed that last sentence for you. Sorry, couldn't help myself... ha ha ha

I was actually joking with my training partner that we should start competing in the fitness events then we wouldn't have to kill ourselves training legs anymore since they get to compete wearing shorts. :ne

[ubcpower]

For those of you who know for sure.
I have investigated the US shows in Washington State, there are several around the time period early summer when i want to compete in the INBF and NANBF organizations.
However, most are 5 years clean and are polygraphed. I haved used ephedrine and clen in the last 5 years, but not in the last 2 years. I think its a shame i wouldnt be able to participate due to this fact. Do they polygraph the 5 years question when you are tested? I do understand why they have the 5 year rule, they dont want guys juicing away and then just going off for one year and competing in a natural federation, at the same time, i think its really too bad that my use of ephedrine and clen 3.5 years ago rules me out....thoughts?

[ubcpower]

k never mind INBF does 2 years only.

[Andre Gregoire]

They want you to be off all substances from the WADA list for 5 years. If you are nervous you will fail the polygraph.

[shredded_Tris]

For those of you who know for sure.
I have investigated the US shows in Washington State, there are several around the time period early summer when i want to compete in the INBF and NANBF organizations.
However, most are 5 years clean and are polygraphed. I haved used ephedrine and clen in the last 5 years, but not in the last 2 years. I think its a shame i wouldnt be able to participate due to this fact. Do they polygraph the 5 years question when you are tested? I do understand why they have the 5 year rule, they dont want guys juicing away and then just going off for one year and competing in a natural federation, at the same time, i think its really too bad that my use of ephedrine and clen 3.5 years ago rules me out....thoughts?

I would just do it anyway bro. I have never seen them polygraph. Unless somebody else has......I would say go for it.
Hell even if somebody says they knew somebody I would try anyway. There's a real good chance In my experience that you WON'T get polygraphed

[ForrestG]

That polygraph thing is a JOKE!!! I took a buddy of mine to the IDFA Montreal Classic in 2009 and they hand you an F-ing Piece of paper that says a list of shit and you say yes or no to taking it. THAT WAS THE TEST. WTF. Thats when my buddy got completely discouraged and stopped competing. He doesn't want to do another show, he is one of those types of guys that gets really pissed when he has to compete against somebody that is "enhanced".

I'm not trying to discourage you from competing bro because they do still filter out a fair amount of guys and it would be a little more fair. However I just don't wanna see you have a bad experience because somebody on gear shows up and nobody says anything.

The IDFA and INBF are fairly different when it comes to testing methods. I've heard similar stories about the IDFA "piece of paper" and agree that's a joke. Being hooked up to a polygraph machine and tested by a trained professional at the end of an 18-week diet is not.

Do some enhanced competitors get by? Maybe, but I think a lot of stories out there about cheaters who don't get caught are created or passed around by competitors to feel better about themselves or their placing.

[A.C.P.]

I have never heard of anyone actaully using the polygraph test. I think it would be interesting to be hooked up to one though instead of doing the piece of paper. I think many organizations to not use the traditional poly because of the price of doing the test itself. The same goes for blood work. It would be nice if everyone had to do a test of some sort but then the fees would go up even more then they are already.

I am curious what they do this year for the OPA as I am going to be competing in that stream this year. I will keep you posted as to the testing methods they use unless anyone knows????

[ForrestG]

[QUOTE=A.C.P.;404959]I have never heard of anyone actaully using the polygraph test. I think it would be interesting to be hooked up to one though instead of doing the piece of paper. I think many organizations to not use the traditional poly because of the price of doing the test itself. The same goes for blood work. It would be nice if everyone had to do a test of some sort but then the fees would go up even more then they are already. QUOTE]

I've done the poly a couple of times and it's a bit un-nerving. Even when you know you're clean it's a stressful thing, always a bit uncomfortable.

[Andre Gregoire]

[QUOTE=A.C.P.;404959]I have never heard of anyone actaully using the polygraph test. I think it would be interesting to be hooked up to one though instead of doing the piece of paper. I think many organizations to not use the traditional poly because of the price of doing the test itself. The same goes for blood work. It would be nice if everyone had to do a test of some sort but then the fees would go up even more then they are already. QUOTE]

I've done the poly a couple of times and it's a bit un-nerving. Even when you know you're clean it's a stressful thing, always a bit uncomfortable.

Stress causes cortisol to increase, cortisol causes water retention... Do you think the polygraph can effect your conditioning?

[ForrestG]

Possibly, if you were really stressed about it (like to the point where your sleep was affected). I was never stressed about it before the interview just during. After, you feel good cause you can focus on the show, similar to finishing weigh-in's, one more step out of the way. In most INBF shows, the poly is done on the Thursday or Friday before the show so I'm sure your body would be fine by stage time.

[A.C.P.]

I've done the poly a couple of times and it's a bit un-nerving. Even when you know you're clean it's a stressful thing, always a bit uncomfortable.

I am competing in the OPA so I am not sure I will get the chance to do the poly. For all you Seinfeld fans.....

All I can think about is when Jerry does the poly for the hot cop he is dating because she doesn't believe that he doesn't watch Melrose place. Classic.