18+ section. Should it stay or go?

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Time to put this up for a vote to see the reaction of the community as a whole. I will make a decision on this not based on the outcome of the poll but it may influence it.

[cog]

Some women will be turned off.

[Rob315]

I know that if I was just starting on the board (which I kind of am due to not being an active poster) I might be deterred from looking at some of the very useful info that is here; it really isn't the best way to represent a community.

[BAM]

If you can't have anything tasteless or nudity in your avatar, then having a porn section is well...

[natenator]

go

[Canadian Protein.com]

I wouldn't imagine that if you want to attract women that a porn section would be a good idea.

[tiramisu]

It supports a culture of treating women with disrespect and on a bodybuilding board it show disdain for their contributions.

There are more women than men in this sport and while the internet boards have been dominated by teenage boys times are happily changing.

If I feel the desire to look at pornography there are infinite sources that aren't this board.

We have enough challenges with the general population's opinion of our use of aas.

[ubcpower]

At the same time, its not like CBB is unique in having this type of section...all the most popular and frequented bbuilding sites right now (rx for example) all have 18+ sections

[rickyboy36]

I wouldn't imagine that if you want to attract women that a porn section would be a good idea.

My thoughts exactly.We dont need porn here--the internet offers us tons.I say do everything you can so we can get more women in here :)

[JonnyO]

Stay

[ironwill]

Stay, its nice being in its own section.....It doesnt pop up all over on other threads....If it stays only in a marked adult forum....I personally dont see a problem.....

[gicantor]

Sometimes it's fun to read up on clen then snap one off. No one else does this?:D

[cog]

I am perfectly happy viewing fit women with their clothes on.Nothing that any of us haven't seen before with the detailed views.Some women are just plain offended.

[PdH]

Stay. I feel like a pariah. :( Following the same rationale for removing the 18+ section you'll also need to remove the relationships section as most of what's written in there is pretty offensive to most women. The slope is even slipperier but I'll leave it at that.

[Memo]

a lot of free porn on internet.. its a waste of bandwidth.

[natenator]

I'm fine with the relationship section going bubye as well. The problem with trying to cater to the masses is you water down the product you are selling. Basic marketing.

[Krozone]

As noted, it's freely available everywhere else. I don't come here for the Porn, neither should anyone else...

get rid of it

Kro!

[The Brick]

Think it should go.

They always start out fine, but then attract the weirdos who are not here for the right reasons. Takes away from the boards quality.

[Praetorian]

I dont see any need on a BB board for anything other than athletic related topics. Same thing with the 18+, relationship section, money section, movie reviews. There are plenty of places to go for these things why a BB board?
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[hommes]

where do you draw the line. what stays and what goes.

[ubcpower]

I dont see any need on a BB board for anything other than athletic related topics. Same thing with the 18+, relationship section, money section, movie reviews. There are plenty of places to go for these things why a BB board?
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But i think this forum is intended to develop slowly into a 'community'. By having non-athletic related sections such as Money, Movies, relationships, it allows us to learn about members and share opinions on realms that are outside of purely fitness

[waderow]

The off topic section should be left alone.

The porn is mostly here for humor and camaraderie, as we all know there is oodles of porn available online without even looking.

Keep it off the new post, and make the forum obscure... And dont go there if you dont like it.

[PdH]

But i think this forum is intended to develop slowly into a 'community'. By having non-athletic related sections such as Money, Movies, relationships, it allows us to learn about members and share opinions on realms that are outside of purely fitness

Agreed.

[waderow]

yes but what does a thread showing female vaginas teach you about other members????

teaches us who likes what kinds of vaginas and why. I know more about ritch and durk because of off topic porn

:p

[PdH]

yes but what does a thread showing female vaginas teach you about other members????

We also had a thread showing penises and the women certainly weren't opposed to it. Threads of that nature, along with movies, etc, allow 'community members' with similar interests to interact in expanded and diverse areas of interest. I certainly know much more about my brethren here from the topics not directly related to bodybuilding than those that are.

Frankly, I could learn everyone's views on training, diet, and other similar matters in about a week. If the board begins to focus on diet and training exclusively, it will also become the epitome of redundancy.

[physique]

But i think this forum is intended to develop slowly into a 'community'. By having non-athletic related sections such as Money, Movies, relationships, it allows us to learn about members and share opinions on realms that are outside of purely fitness

excellent post. couldnt of said it better myself


as for 69challnegers repsonse to female vages, what are u doing in the porn section to see a thread like that. unless u click new posts tab.

the board is changing alot, but why ruin a good community already. not every change will result in more members, in fact it might drive some away. food for thought

[69challenger]

as for 69challnegers repsonse to female vages, what are u doing in the porn section to see a thread like that. unless u click new posts tab.



huh?

[turboturist]

The off topic section should be left alone.

The porn is mostly here for humor and camaraderie, as we all know there is oodles of porn available online without even looking.

Keep it off the new post, and make the forum obscure... And dont go there if you dont like it.

Exactly, I voted keep it. If you dont want to look at it then dont look......

[Memo]

its good to have abnormally enlarged clitoris pictures to remember why women should not experiment with testosterone.

[monkey]

excellent post. couldnt of said it better myself


the board is changing alot, but why ruin a good community already. not every change will result in more members, in fact it might drive some away. food for thought


I totally agree with that...

I see the purpose of "cleaning up" to make it more attractive to new people...
but a lot of people like it the way it is.. " Don't upset the core / existing customers... " I used to hear a lot

[rated_rko]

stay

[O-Train]

Will anyone actually leave if the porn section goes?

I think more would not come/stay with the 18+ than would go without it.

[monkey]

Yeah.. good point. I doubt anybody will leave due to a missing porn site, lol.
I personally barely ever enter there.. guess I was more referring to changes in general

[Ritch]

yes but what does a thread showing female vaginas teach you about other members????

I once learned here that a woman`s lips can change size and structure as they diet because there is less fat. Thank you Brandi... And what Wade said is true, we get to know each other better with all the poonany talk. Let`s not turn this place into a friggin day care center... It`s bodybuiling, most of us have high sex drives and porn is only natural to have on the site.

[MontrealMarek]

The porn section should simply go.

The focus of this forum should remain fitness related. Keeping this focus will encourage new members to join and become contributers. It is as simple as that. If the content is good more people will come.

The arguement to include a little bit of everything to encourage building a community is a poor one. It is through participation and discussion that the community will grow. I don't think I need naked pictures to come visit. This tread is a good example of this community building.

We shouldn't be worried what other forums are doing or what some current members like to do. We should look ahead and imagine if you want to be assoiciated with a forum that post a lot of naked pictures. The forum would probably be much better without it.

Personally I think it is pretty easy to put up some porn. Hey, it is popular but it is also pretty cheap and divides us. Not everyone likes the same things. It is a bigger challenge to find something to contribute related to fitness or bodybuilding.

Dump the porn and make the members work harder for us to bring us good content and information. I think we will all benifit.

[PdH]

The arguement to include a little bit of everything to encourage building a community is a poor one. It is through participation and discussion that the community will grow. I don't think I need naked pictures to come visit. This tread is a good example of this community building.

Dump the porn and make the members work harder for us to bring us good content and information. I think we will all benifit.

So what you are saying is that making members work hard to bring good content and information will build an online community, and discussions such as this thread are community builders. IMO, camaraderie, a sense of belonging, mutual respect, and common interests build an online community.

The majority of the longstanding members here are bodybuilders with diverse interests from which a strong community has already been forged. Break the diversity, and the community withers because of redundancy. Maybe significant change is good, maybe not.

[MontrealMarek]

So what you are saying is that making members work hard to bring good content and information will build an online community, and discussions such as this thread are community builders. IMO, camaraderie, a sense of belonging, mutual respect, and common interests build an online community.

The majority of the longstanding members here are bodybuilders with diverse interests from which a strong community has already been forged. Break the diversity, and the community withers because of redundancy. Maybe significant change is good, maybe not.

It is like that TV show where they make over a restaurant. The restuarant is not doing well and they decide they want to change. Sometimes the owners are worried about to much change because they don't want to loose their clientel. The problem is if everything is fine then you wouldn't need to change anything. Right?

If people are talking about change then no body should be worried to try. Dump the porn and it might encourage new people to join.

[kloan]

Somehow I doubt having an adult section has any significant bearing on how many people join this site.

There were more people joining when the discussion of labs was allowed, along with the picture section. Now it feels AAS in general is becoming a taboo subject on this board.

I think instead of taking away things that long standing members appreciate having, there should be new features added to generate more interest/traffic, such as Exercises, Routines and Videos.

Another thing I'd like to see is a much less cluttered main page, with non-bodybuilding topics found in one main link which would then lead to the available sub forums.
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[tiramisu]

on a semi related note I heard a wonderful quote on the treadmill this morning

"the mission is to keep the mission the mission."

I think it's relevant.

[CanadianIron]

Porn is easy to find, the section does nothing for this site.

[Chunk]

the porn section isn't necessary, but I wouldn't get rid of Off topic stuff as some have mentioned...

I said it in another thread, "get to know your sources." It's probably a pretty bad example, but I'm sure no one here posted an ad on kijiji looking for an AAS dealer. I'm also sure that most of the time you want to know if your supplier is trustworthy...if I'm looking for information on anything, I want to know my source's personality. Using this board as an example, it's probably easiest to figure out my source (the people helping me here) through off-topic discussion...who to trust, who not to trust.

For instance, when I first came here...I was asking cheesesteak for info (no shit) because of the circumstance he described in the proper sub forums about his starting weight, goals, etc....turns out he was a ****ing fraud and I felt like a knob. Without resident hero Gilmour and the off topic section, I'd have been still doing it.

As for the porn, there is a simple solution to people who don't want to look at "pictures of vaginas"...It's as simple now as it was when baracine was around...if you don't want to look at pornography, don't enter the thread or section. Using the vagina thread as an example...which grosses me out, BTW, I'm not defending it...the original poster CLEARLY marked what was in the thread, so there was no reason to go looking at it if you didn't want to see it.

either way, i don't care...just giving my opinion. I'm sure though that the results in google that come up for "porn" are completely different than what come up for "bodybuilding forums"...so I have my doubts that people are coming here for the porn...the 18+ section only takes away from the bodybuilding expertise if you let it...

[ProteinJunkie]

All great comments with all valid lines of reasoning. I’ll however vote and state I choose to get rid of it. It was a contributing reason as to why I choose not to become a board sponsor. It’s just something I don’t want affiliated with my company.

[Seth]

This board is full of buff men in speedos, we need something to balance the homo out. All jokes aside, people who don't want to see what's in it just won't go there, I think we're past the "porn is bad" era, plus having a porn forum keeps the naughty pictures off the off-topic section for those who don't want to see them

[UkrainianGuy]

well first off u make a thread just for men to enjoy.. and it currently has (92 Viewing) sheesh

[Talo]

Make it a private men's section , like the women have a private section.

[rated_rko]

damn neck and neck right now

[cog]

I once learned here that a woman`s lips can change size and structure as they diet because there is less fat. Thank you Brandi... And what Wade said is true, we get to know each other better with all the poonany talk. Let`s not turn this place into a friggin day care center... It`s bodybuiling, most of us have high sex drives and porn is only natural to have on the site.

Maybe it should be more like the old Playboy mag instead of Larry Flynt's rag whatever it was.

[countrychic]

personally I don't see a problem with it, it has it's own forum so those who don't want to go in don't have to.

[CanadianIron]

Thats not true.. when a guy hits "new posts" and sees a new porn thread, he has no choice. Even if we dont want to, we have to... which is why it must go.

I have hit numerous thread titles not looking at the section they're in and opening up explicit porn infront of people by accident. I use the "new post" button all the time, at the very least, remove the porn section from there and make it a subsection under off topic so its isnt listed on the main forum index.

I post a thread telling people to post pictures of their dicks (as a joke) and a few hundred people view, its just nature, we are slaves to our curiosity.

[daande]

The off topic section should be left alone.

The porn is mostly here for humor and camaraderie, as we all know there is oodles of porn available online without even looking.

Keep it off the new post, and make the forum obscure... And dont go there if you dont like it.

I agree with wade. Its clearly labeled 18+ Naughty or whatever.

[countrychic]

Thats not true.. when a guy hits "new posts" and sees a new porn thread, he has no choice. Even if we dont want to, we have to... which is why it must go.



When you hit new posts it tells you which forum it is under as well. lol a guy has a choice not to click on it to ;)

[CanadianIron]

I dunno, thats like telling a homeless drug addict to say no to drugs and get a job.

[kloan]

Thats not true.. when a guy hits "new posts" and sees a new porn thread, he has no choice. Even if we dont want to, we have to... which is why it must go.

I have hit numerous thread titles not looking at the section they're in and opening up explicit porn infront of people by accident. I use the "new post" button all the time, at the very least, remove the porn section from there and make it a subsection under off topic so its isnt listed on the main forum index.

I post a thread telling people to post pictures of their dicks (as a joke) and a few hundred people view, its just nature, we are slaves to our curiosity.

MP has said he is changing it so that it no longer showed up under New Posts.

From the thread Nudity in Avatars (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14037)

If you have nudity in your avatar, please change your avatar to something more appropriate so we can read the board in front of the kids or at work.

I'll start removing nudity in avatars after the upgrade but would prefer if you would take care if it before then.

Also after the upgrade, the 18+ forum posts won't show up on new posts. You'll have to browse into that forum to view new stuff.

Thanks.

[C-money]

i dont think it will make a big difference.. But if i had to choose id say get rid or it

[L3]

what about making the section invisible to guests and members, and everyone would have the option to make it visible again in the User CP - if they want to, that is

[Delt King]

It seems with the direction that MP is heading with the board it's incompatible...i think this board should concentrate on promoting the sport and lifestyle of bodybuilding, fitness, powerlifting etc. and the information needed to accomplish that. Like many have said...you can find adult stuff anywhere on the net. Let's keep this board clean and it'll draw more advertisers as well IMO.

[rickyboy36]

what about making the section invisible to guests and members, and everyone would have the option to make it visible again in the User CP - if they want to, that is

Very good idea right there if people absolutely want it staying

[waderow]

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[physique]

huh?

wrong female. meant christine.

[gicantor]

It was a contributing reason as to why I choose not to become a board sponsor. It’s just something I don’t want affiliated with my company.

Your on a board that openly discusses steroid usage, and your worried about pictures of naked females?

[The Brick]

Your on a board that openly discusses steroid usage, and your worried about pictures of naked females?

It's more than just softcore naked females... some of the stuff in there is pretty nasty. I can see his point.

[CanadianIron]

Your on a board that openly discusses steroid usage, and your worried about pictures of naked females?

Most of his potential customers are going to morally object to porn over steroid use. Anyone serious about body building accepts AAS as part of the game. Porn will only get your dick jacked.

[waderow]

the slots are full with sponsors who do not object, so the loss is his

[CanadianIron]

True, except if the board had twice as many members, the sponsors in the given slots could be charged twice as much.

This site has the potential to have 10,000+ active members, my opinion would be that there is maybe 100-200 people who post on a weekly basis. Having a porn section limits this site, I have not, I would never recommend this site to any of my friends because of the porn section.

Whenever I get info from this board and share it with friends, I tell them I got it from BB.com because I dont want them to know I go on this site.

[waderow]

True, except if the board had twice as many members, the sponsors in the given slots could be charged twice as much.

This site has the potential to have 10,000+ active members, my opinion would be that there is maybe 100-200 people who post on a weekly basis. Having a porn section limits this site, I have not, I would never recommend this site to any of my friends because of the porn section.

Whenever I get info from this board and share it with friends, I tell them I got it from BB.com because I dont want them to know I go on this site.


I feel sorry for you ultra-conservative religious folk. Youre missing out on sooo much good vaj

p.s.: bb.com has some pretty harsh offensive shit too

[gicantor]

Having a porn section limits this site, I have not, I would never recommend this site to any of my friends because of the porn section.

Whenever I get info from this board and share it with friends, I tell them I got it from BB.com because I dont want them to know I go on this site.

Are we 12 years old here? Have we never seen pussy before? It's in it's own section. Don't click on it if you don't want to see it. It's that simple. I hardly think the porn section is limiting the potential of this site.

[ProteinJunkie]

Your on a board that openly discusses steroid usage, and your worried about pictures of naked females?


It's more than just softcore naked females... some of the stuff in there is pretty nasty. I can see his point.

Thanks BRICK. Aside from that, it’s not just the point of porn but the underlying principles as well. Even if it was ‘just naked ladies', I love them as much as the next guy but there’s a time and place for everything and in my opinion, a bodybuilding site isn’t one of them.


Most of his potential customers are going to morally object to porn over steroid use. Anyone serious about body building accepts AAS as part of the game. Porn will only get your dick jacked.

Good point and I agree.


the slots are full with sponsors who do not object, so the loss is his

Indeed. And I’m sure there are plenty in queue however I’m not concerned with their choices nor will I let it affect mine. Standing my ground is far more important to me than any so-called ‘losses’. That’s just how I roll.

[CanadianIron]

Are we 12 years old here? Have we never seen pussy before? It's in it's own section. Don't click on it if you don't want to see it. It's that simple. I hardly think the porn section is limiting the potential of this site.


I have no real problem with it, the only problem I have is when people who HAVE A PROBLEM are around... my wife, she would have a problem with it for example. A lot of my guy friends are christian etc and would morally object, so im not about to start sending them to a site with nude avatars and a porn section. BB.com is full of offensive stuff, but its all hidden in subsections, they also dont allow boob/vag nudity.

[PdH]

Whenever I get info from this board and share it with friends, I tell them I got it from BB.com because I dont want them to know I go on this site.

Look at the degree of righteous indignation from a fellow who made his appearance on this board in such contemptible fashion that most, including myself, thought that he should have been banned. Maybe you should take a look in your own backyard before campaigning as a moral entrepreneur.

[cog]

I think we should just soften it up a bit.Obviously plenty here,myself included at times enjoy a little guy talk about babes.

[monkey]

Most of his potential customers are going to morally object to porn over steroid use. Anyone serious about body building accepts AAS as part of the game. Porn will only get your dick jacked.

most customers are guys.. guys watch porn ( yes, a recent study failed to find a single person who hadn't watched porn).. most guys have high test levels here.. and very few will start crying when they see some pussy. I personally don't know a single person that would be offended by this.

Your views on steroid usage are ridiculous ( e.g. comparing it to food). It is an illegal DRUG that can put you in jail or destroy your health..yet you are concerned about porn?? ( Edit: Yes, I am aware of the legal status and of course an amp won't jail you or kill you...but im sure you get my point)
Youd have no problem recomending something based your values that glorifies drug usage but your scared of them judging you based on a tiny section, clearly labelled for grown ups, representing a fraction of the board?? Its not that we haqve pussies popping up everywhere)

ANyone being a dude accepts that porn are a part of life.

You have your right to your harsh opinion and views.. yet you have to accept that your values are probably as wrong as mine are.

[kloan]

^^hmm, not quite though.. it's a grey area. It's not illegal to posess or use steroids.. so the discussion of use isn't illegal either.

But I agree.. who cares if there's a section with adult content. We're all adults, if you don't like it, don't look. It's not going to show up under new posts, so what's the harm.

I like L3's idea to have the option of turning it on in UserCP (default would be off to protect the innocent moralists who are shocked and appauled by that kind of content), and so as not to deter new memberships (as it most likely is, right? <-sarcasm for those who still don't get me).

[waderow]

a little secret..... not all but most good christian family men look at internet porn.

[hommes]

a little secret..... not all but most good christian family men look at internet porn.

dude that was funny

[CanadianIron]

a little secret..... not all but most good christian family men look at internet porn.

This is true.


Look at the degree of righteous indignation from a fellow who made his appearance on this board in such contemptible fashion that most, including myself, thought that he should have been banned. Maybe you should take a look in your own backyard before campaigning as a moral entrepreneur.

Again, im not saying im all high and mighty, but out of respect for the morals and beliefs of people that I associate with, im not going to send them to a site that would conflict with their own beliefs etc. If im friends with a guy who objects porn, im not going to recommend this site, and a lot of the people I know would object to porn. As much as we all look at it, you still wouldnt read a playboy on a city bus or have naked women plastered all over the outside of your car. Porn is for masterbating, its a private thing. The porn people post on this site sucks anyways. Anyone who wants to look at porn can go right over to redtube and get an eyeful. Its needlessly limits the potential of the site. Im not arguing against it as a moralist, simply from a business perspective.

[waderow]

This is true.



Again, im not saying im all high and mighty, but out of respect for the morals and beliefs of people that I associate with, im not going to send them to a site that would conflict with their own beliefs etc. If im friends with a guy who objects porn, im not going to recommend this site, and a lot of the people I know would object to porn. As much as we all look at it, you still wouldnt read a playboy on a city bus or have naked women plastered all over the outside of your car. Porn is for masterbating, its a private thing. The porn people post on this site sucks anyways. Anyone who wants to look at porn can go right over to redtube and get an eyeful. Its needlessly limits the potential of the site. Im not arguing against it as a moralist, simply from a business perspective.

lol perfect christmas gift for your friends ----> CYBERsitter. LOL. That way they wont get offended by the internet.

Or, as adults, you could say "CBB is a great site for bodybuilding, but bro...boys will be boys and there are some avatars that show nudity, and there is a section for porn. If you object, disable the avatars and stay out of the porn section"

But I guess your friends cant handle that

[CanadianIron]

most customers are guys.. guys watch porn ( yes, a recent study failed to find a single person who hadn't watched porn).. most guys have high test levels here.. and very few will start crying when they see some pussy. I personally don't know a single person that would be offended by this.

Your views on steroid usage are ridiculous ( e.g. comparing it to food). It is an illegal DRUG that can put you in jail or destroy your health..yet you are concerned about porn?? ( Edit: Yes, I am aware of the legal status and of course an amp won't jail you or kill you...but im sure you get my point)
Youd have no problem recomending something based your values that glorifies drug usage but your scared of them judging you based on a tiny section, clearly labelled for grown ups, representing a fraction of the board?? Its not that we haqve pussies popping up everywhere)

ANyone being a dude accepts that porn are a part of life.

You have your right to your harsh opinion and views.. yet you have to accept that your values are probably as wrong as mine are.


Again, I'm not saying that all porn as it is, is offensive. The female body is not offensive, some porn I find offensive. To some, porn is a no no and would avoid this site to avoid the temptation of something they deam inappropriate.

I shouldnt have to explain to you people that some people think porn is wrong. Censorship exists because of people who are offended by the naked body.

And for the record, I see absolutely nothing wrong with AAS, I have no respect for most canadian law and what I want to do with my body is my business. AAS is bad for you, but how bad, thats for an individual to decide, thats not "Canada's" business.

[CanadianIron]

lol perfect christmas gift for your friends ----> CYBERsitter. LOL. That way they wont get offended by the internet.

Or, as adults, you could say "CBB is a great site for bodybuilding, but bro...boys will be boys and there are some avatars that show nudity, and there is a section for porn. If you object, disable the avatars and stay out of the porn section"

But I guess your friends cant handle that

No they couldnt.

I obviously cant win the argument, im not trying to stop you guys from looking at porn. Just thought it would help the site. Just dont expect me to personally promote the site.

[waderow]

No they couldnt.

do you act like them when you are around them and say how horrible the vagina is and that those sluts need to be covered up, so they dont lead you to temptation, becasue you are so weak you cant control yourself if you see a chick sticking a cucumber in her ass, or do you admit to them you do not mind porn

[CanadianIron]

do you act like them when you are around them and say how horrible the vagina is and that those sluts need to be covered up, so they dont lead you to temptation, becasue you are so weak you cant control yourself if you see a chick sticking a cucumber in her ass, or do you admit to them you do not mind porn

Depends on the person, if someone objects, I dont pipe up and talk about how great porn is. If my dad has to change the channel to avoid some chick for some dateline commercial, Im not going to tell him to change the channel back. And Im not into vegetable porn, you are into some freaky shit man, Im not down with most of what you look at.

[waderow]

Depends on the person, if someone objects, I dont pipe up and talk about how great porn is. If my dad has to change the channel to avoid some chick for some dateline commercial, Im not going to tell him to change the channel back. And Im not into vegetable porn, you are into some freaky shit man, Im not down with most of what you look at.

vegetable porn has been around since there was vegetables

[Ritch]

^^^ LOL!

[natenator]

Again, I'm not saying that all porn as it is, is offensive. The female body is not offensive, some porn I find offensive. To some, porn is a no no and would avoid this site to avoid the temptation of something they deam inappropriate.

I shouldnt have to explain to you people that some people think porn is wrong. Censorship exists because of people who are offended by the naked body.

And for the record, I see absolutely nothing wrong with AAS, I have no respect for most canadian law and what I want to do with my body is my business. AAS is bad for you, but how bad, thats for an individual to decide, thats not "Canada's" business.
Hey wade, the same could have been said for a certain gay thread that was around which got you (and ritch) all up and arms about.

"If you object then don't look"

[waderow]

Hey wade, the same could have been said for a certain gay thread that was around which got you (and ritch) all up and arms about.

"If you object then don't look"

The gay thread, I blocked baracine and looked only for the reactions from the other guys... it was hilarious.

I objected to the homos coming here to post personal anal sex wanted ads

that was bullshit

[natenator]

I guess my question is I don't see why it would be such a big deal if it were removed? Are we missing out on something?

[waderow]

probably the best thing to do would be make a private forum, and ban nudity in avatars.
the private forum would be for the naughty section, and therefore the handful of people who object wont get offended

[waderow]

I guess my question is I don't see why it would be such a big deal if it were removed? Are we missing out on something?

camaraderie... I dont come here to wack off

[natenator]

camaraderie is a weak stance

[CanadianIron]

I guess Wade is so into porn that its how he identifies himself...


probably the best thing to do would be make a private forum, and ban nudity in avatars.
the private forum would be for the naughty section, and therefore the handful of people who object wont get offended

[GYMBRAT]

stay, it keeps me outa the bars LOL ....j/k

[CanadianIron]

No you arent....

[waderow]

I guess Wade is so into porn that its how he identifies himself...

it is not that I am so into porn.

Its that I am so into not conforming to political correctness and thin skinned bellyachers.

The avatars are in your face. Lets tone em down. The naughty section is a specific section that is off to the side that one can make a choice to view or not to view.

[natenator]

it is not that I am so into porn.

Its that I am so into not conforming to political correctness and thin skinned bellyachers.

The avatars are in your face. Lets tone em down. The naughty section is a specific section that is off to the side that one can make a choice to view or not to view.
I actually think you just like to whine.

[waderow]

I actually think you just like to whine.

I see you whining about the naughty section, and I see me whining about your whining....

[GYMBRAT]

No you arent....

BUSTED! :mad:

[natenator]

I see you whining about the naughty section, and I see me whining about your whining....
Actually I've not whined at all. Your posts in this thread cry whiner louder than Daande's post about his ex

[waderow]

Actually I've not whined at all. Your posts in this thread cry whiner louder than Daande's post about his ex

So because I have a different opinion then the almighty Natenator, I am whining?

sorry Nate...let me bow down to you and because you dont like the naughty section... I wont like it either now

[Route13]

I concur with waderow, it is not a section that you have to visit if you don't want to. I beleive that the largest majority of us are adults so let it go.

[natenator]

So because I have a different opinion then the almighty Natenator, I am whining?

sorry Nate...let me bow down to you and because you dont like the naughty section... I wont like it either now
Nah. I don't give 2 shits but like you in the gay thread I just like coming here to see the cry baby antics that are going in. It's hilarious :D

[waderow]

Nah. I don't give 2 shits but like you in the gay thread I just like coming here to see the cry baby antics that are going in. It's hilarious :D

cool. as i am having a GAY ol time too

I get to hear why people dont like it.... such as "my bible banger friends wont approve" or "i dont want my wife and kids to see while i am on a steroid board"....

its funny shit

[gicantor]

yaaaay normal people with common sense are winning!!!! 42/32!!!!wooohhhh

[tiramisu]

demento's 42, people with taste 32.

nonetheless I think the potential sponsor who felt it was an impediment to doing business here is an issue and I personally find many of the porn posts offensive.

demento's have many options for their porn. infinite number of jerkoff sites and only one cbb.

I prefer sites like startingstrength, intensemuscle, ironaddicts that have a clear mission and stick with it. Being a melting pot of shit just takes away from the content.

This mission should absolutely not be to create a giant chat site of teenage jerkoffs and dementos.

It runs counter to what CBB should be developing. As the only real canadian bodybuilding site on the net it has amopportunity to carve out and hold an important niche that other sites can not and will not compete with.

If you want bullshit, spam, flamefests and crap you can always go to RxMuscle where their mission statement is "anything for a buck". They have huge traffic volumes and almost 0 content on their forums.

It keeps romano in a porsche but it's a bullshit board for a very large collection of high volume posting assholes.

I don't think CBB should be emulating the RxMuscle forums. Video/Audio content and competition news are a potentially huge asset but PIT's, large off topic sections, and pornography detract from the site.

[gicantor]

^^ if find your avvy offensive. Please get rid of it. Thank you.

[CanadianIron]

demento's 42, people with taste 32.

nonetheless I think the potential sponsor who felt it was an impediment to doing business here is an issue and I personally find many of the porn posts offensive.

demento's have many options for their porn. infinite number of jerkoff sites and only one cbb.

I prefer sites like startingstrength, intensemuscle, ironaddicts that have a clear mission and stick with it. Being a melting pot of shit just takes away from the content.

This mission should absolutely not be to create a giant chat site of teenage jerkoffs and dementos.

It runs counter to what CBB should be developing. As the only real canadian bodybuilding site on the net it has amopportunity to carve out and hold an important niche that other sites can not and will not compete with.

If you want bullshit, spam, flamefests and crap you can always go to RxMuscle where their mission statement is "anything for a buck". They have huge traffic volumes and almost 0 content on their forums.

It keeps romano in a porsche but it's a bullshit board for a very large collection of high volume posting assholes.

I don't think CBB should be emulating the RxMuscle forums. Video/Audio content and competition news are a potentially huge asset but PIT's, large off topic sections, and pornography detract from the site.

Repped.

I personally think people are seeing this as a "Is porn moral or not?" poll. What you should really ask yourself, is this site better off with or without the section. I HIGHLY doubt people will join and post on this site for the porn section, however I can GUARANTEE the section takes away from the site in many ways, regardless of whether or not you agree with it, other people definately dont, and thats no argument, the section definately costs the site members.

CBB has the potential to be the canadian version of bodybuilding.com, and that guy makes MILLIONS. If MP wants to quit his job and make uber cash, he needs to get into the body building supersite business, not the porn site business.

[monkey]

Repped.

. I HIGHLY doubt people will join and post on this site for the porn section, however I can GUARANTEE the section takes away from the site in many ways,
You guarantee it? Must be right then!

CBB has the potential to be the canadian version of bodybuilding.com, and that guy makes MILLIONS. If MP wants to quit his job and make uber cash, he needs to get into the body building supersite business, not the porn site business.

MP would make more money promoting steroids and shit.. what does porn have to do with it, lol.

Joke aside.. You are simplifying things and I don't really agree with you, but who cares.
Bottom line is, you don't like it.. lots of people would like to keep it. You can't make everyone happy. You appear to be motivated by some reasons on your own to get rid of this.. I personally would like to keep it..but then again, we are entirely different people that probably would not get along in real life..

As someone said, keeping it private is probably the best option that would keep everyone happy. The current members that like it and people like you who rather get rid of it.

Anyways.. my opinion. retiring from this debate about nothing

[CanadianIron]

I like naked women more than most, however if I want content, ill go to the top ten on redtube, porntube, pornhub, not here. The crap here is pointless. All it does is force people to hide their use of this site like AAS has to be hidden from people who disapprove.

If I hit "new posts" and walk out of my office at work and my boss sees "Check out this double penetration" on the list of threads, hes gonna flip. So it makes visiting the site something to tip toe around.

[hommes]

what ever happens, happens i guess.

[Winnipeg Muscle]

Great discussion and agruments, I voted for it to stay but if it went I certainly would continue to be a member, this is a great forum with emense knowledge and experiance on many applicable topics. I found myself agreeing to the following statements...

“Stay. I feel like a pariah. Following the same rationale for removing the 18+ section you'll also need to remove the relationships section as most of what's written in there is pretty offensive to most women. The slope is even slipperier but I'll leave it at that.”

“But i think this forum is intended to develop slowly into a 'community'. By having non-athletic related sections such as Money, Movies, relationships, it allows us to learn about members and share opinions on realms that are outside of purely fitness”

“The porn is mostly here for humor and camaraderie, as we all know there is oodles of porn available online without even looking."

“Frankly, I could learn everyone's views on training, diet, and other similar matters in about a week. If the board begins to focus on diet and training exclusively, it will also become the epitome of redundancy.”

“So what you are saying is that making members work hard to bring good content and information will build an online community, and discussions such as this thread are community builders. IMO, camaraderie, a sense of belonging, mutual respect, and common interests build an online community.

“on a semi related note I heard a wonderful quote on the treadmill this morning
the mission is to keep the mission the mission. I think it's relevant.”

“the slots are full with sponsors who do not object, so the loss is his”

“Are we 12 years old here? Have we never seen pussy before? It's in it's own section. Don't click on it if you don't want to see it. It's that simple. I hardly think the porn section is limiting the potential of this site.”

“probably the best thing to do would be make a private forum, and ban nudity in avatars. the private forum would be for the naughty section, and therefore the handful of people who object wont get offended”

[L3]

If I hit "new posts" and walk out of my office at work and my boss sees "Check out this double penetration" on the list of threads, hes gonna flip.

heres a crazy idea, if you're so worried, do you work instead of checking CBB

[waderow]

heres a crazy idea, if you're so worried, do you work instead of checking CBB

i think by boss, he meant his wife

[Spyder122]

How bout keep it, remove it from coming up in New Posts and possibly make that section password protected like the "women's only forum" is and provide a password to members apon request.

[kloan]

MP has already said he's removing it from New Posts!!

[_Z_]

lots of porn forums out there (so i've heard:rolleyes:)
i don't care if it's here or not, but it's not why i registered for this forum.

[Realist]

I understand the issue as a whole, and agree with MP and CanadianIron. Times are achangin' and Sponsors AND our Female Colleaugues do not want it.
Being Males, we, as stated, all agree that we enjoy our porn. Some just don't think it should be posted here, where our Female posters are made to feel belittled etc, and our sponsors offended.
After all, it IS all about money, and porn can be found all over the Net. Very surprised nobody suggested the Women create their own Porn section, lmao!

[CanadianIron]

Or gay people, im sure straight guys would love accidentally clicking on gay porn threads...

[Winnipeg Muscle]

Votes are in....CBBF Democracy or Dictatorship?

[tiramisu]

read the first post. NOT DEMOCRACY.

[champion99]

TOO CLICK OR NOT TOO CLICK...... YOUR CHOICE :cflag

[juced_porkchop]

if they dont like it dont click it is what i say.

[Winnipeg Muscle]

read the first post. NOT DEMOCRACY.

That's unfortunate, tyranny of the majority doesn't sit well with me. ;) Most on here seem to have the willpower to make it to the gym and lifts some heavy ass shit or the willpower to stay away from Twinkys and maintain a regimented diet, but don't have the willpower to not click on something they don't want to see...weak very weak.

[bartoli]

So most people vote yes and still it goes. Guess I'm gone. Good luck CBB. Google the word "democracy" next time you are on the net...

[tiramisu]

20 posts in 3 years and you are leaving because of the lack of porn?

I dare say you won't be missed.

[natenator]

20 posts in 3 years and you are leaving because of the lack of porn?

I dare say you won't be missed.
lol

[Big D]

20 posts in 3 years and you are leaving because of the lack of porn?

I dare say you won't be missed.

LOL


I say it should go

[pseclint]

meh its a decent section to have, brings some traffic and some extra clicks and kills more time, which is what you wanna do some days..... i say keep it... maybe make it available to people with a certain number of posts..... but i say it does no harm

[evoke]

meh, i don't care either way.

[Andre Gregoire]

I say it should go.

1. There are plenty of places to get porn on the Internet, we don't need it here.
2. It doesn't represent the community well.
3. It might intimidate women from joining or contributing
4. Some of us check the board from work on our breaks

Even worse then the 18+ forum is the avatars with nudity. I can avoid the 18+ board from work but if I am reading a thread on contest dieting and some guy has an avatar of a huge set of tits, it doesn't look good at work.

[tiramisu]

I don't suppose anyone checked the date of this thread. ;)

MP pulled the porn a while back.

[Flexxx]

Personally never looked at it. I just use the "New Posts" button.

[R-Money]

go

[R-Money]

not really needed

[Talo]

I don't suppose anyone checked the date of this thread. ;)

MP pulled the porn a while back.


Last time I even noticed the section it was under password protection.