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Thorgrim
27-11-2009, 05:15 PM
Thought this would interest a few of you. Natural and cheap mild anti-estrogen. I can get a pound of Turmeric in the ethnic section of Superstore for a few dollars. I usually take about a tsp a day as a preventative measure. It has antibiotic and anti-inflammatory properties and promotes alkalinity as well. It is a winner all around.

I originally found out about it when I thought I had a staph infection from wrestling at my MMA club. It came up as one of the natural cures.



Curcuma longa is a ginger-like plant that grows in tropical regions. The roots contain a bright yellow substance (turmeric) that contains curcumin and other curcuminoids. Turmeric has been used in Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine for centuries. But it's only within the past few years that the extraordinary actions of curcumin against cancer have been scientifically documented. Among its many benefits, curcumin has at least a dozen separate ways of interfering with cancer.

Curcumin blocks estrogen mimicking chemicals

One of the things that sets curcumin apart from most other anti-cancer supplements (I3C being an exception), is that this phenolic can actually block chemicals from getting inside cells. Importantly, curcumin can interfere with pesticides that mimic estrogen. These include DDT and dioxin, two extremely toxic chemicals that contaminate America's water and food. (Dioxin is so toxic that a few ounces of it could wipe out the entire population of New York City). Curcumin has the unique ability to fit through a cellular doorway known as the aryl hydrocarbon receptor. This is a feat it shares with estrogen and estrogen-mimicking chemicals. Because it can compete for the same doorway, curcumin has the power to block access to the cell and protect against estrogen mimickers.Like estrogen, estrogen-mimicking chemicals promote the growth of breast cancer. In a study on human breast cancer cells, curcumin reversed growth caused by 17b-estradiol by 98%. DDT's growth-enhancing effects on breast cancer were blocked about 75% by curcumin.
Two other estrogen mimickers were tested for their ability to enhance breast cancer. Chlordane and endosulfane together make breast cancer cells grow about as much as17b-estradiol. Curcumin can reverse that growth about 90%. Adding the soy phytochemical, genistein, causes a 100% growth arrest.
Curcumin's ability to block other chemicals have been documented. It has been tested against paraquat (weed killer), nitrosamines (in cooked meat and "lunch" meats) and carbon tetrachloride (a solvent in varnish and other products). In all cases, curcumin is able to block the chemical's effect. The beneficial effects are evident in a study where mice were treated with diethylnitrosamine. All mice treated with this chemical would usually develop liver cancer. However, when treated with curcumin, the percentage of animals developing cancer went from 100% to 38%, and the number of tumors dropped by 81%.


goodhealth.nu/News_Articl...-cancer-US.htm

Mr Ontario
27-11-2009, 05:19 PM
known about this for years..hence why I'm so smart :)

Timbo89
27-11-2009, 05:26 PM
anti-inflammatory = suffering gains

waderow
27-11-2009, 05:29 PM
anti-inflammatory = suffering gains

could you explain this further. not disagreeing... just curious

Thorgrim
27-11-2009, 05:47 PM
anti-inflammatory = suffering gains

Maybe on paper this might be true, but in the real world I doubt it.

Too much inflammation means sore joints, tendons and increased plaque build up on the arterial walls as well. The body is a complex machine and if everything else is running smoothly a little less muscle inflammation isn't going to be problem.

Praetorian
27-11-2009, 05:53 PM
Maybe on paper this might be true, but in the real world I doubt it.

Too much inflammation means sore joints, tendons and increased plaque build up on the arterial walls as well. The body is a complex machine and if everything else is running smoothly a little less muscle inflammation isn't going to be problem.

Actually its true...anti-inflammatories taken after training do inhibit muscular gains...most notably NSAIDS.
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Praetorian
27-11-2009, 05:55 PM
Thought this would interest a few of you. Natural and cheap mild anti-estrogen. I can get a pound of Turmeric in the ethnic section of Superstore for a few dollars. I usually take about a tsp a day as a preventative measure. It has antibiotic and anti-inflammatory properties and promotes alkalinity as well. It is a winner all around.

I originally found out about it when I thought I had a staph infection from wrestling at my MMA club. It came up as one of the natural cures.


http://www.goodhealth.nu/News_Articl...-cancer-US.htm

That doesnt equate it to an AI or even a SERM.
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Thorgrim
27-11-2009, 06:12 PM
Actually its true...anti-inflammatories taken after training do inhibit muscular gains...most notably NSAIDS.
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Taking 3-4 advil after a brutal workout is different then taking a tsp or two of turmeric everyday as a preventative measure.

It is not going to be very powerful compared to a pharmaceutical obviously.

Thorgrim
27-11-2009, 06:33 PM
That doesnt equate it to an AI or even a SERM.
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Explain. It says it competes with estrogen and it's mimickers for certain receptors. Maybe it won't help with bitch tits but it obviously has some anti-estrogenic activity at least as far as it's role in the development of cancer.

waderow
27-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Explain. It says it competes with estrogen and it's mimickers for certain receptors. Maybe it won't help with bitch tits but it obviously has some anti-estrogenic activity at least as far as it's role in the development of cancer.

tricky business. if it competes and mimics, and only grabs 5% of receptors, you are still in a bind.

Praetorian
27-11-2009, 08:44 PM
tricky business. if it competes and mimics, and only grabs 5% of receptors, you are still in a bind.

bingo.
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Thorgrim
27-11-2009, 09:45 PM
Where are you guys getting that it is an estrogen mimicking compound though? It could be, but that is not what the article says. It says that it competes with estrogen mimicking chemicals and estrogen and that is one of the mechanisms by which it helps fight cancer. I don't think it is a far leap to assume that it has some anti-e effects in the body however mild they might be.

natenator
27-11-2009, 09:48 PM
Where are you guys getting that it is an estrogen mimicking compound though? It could be, but that is not what the article says. It says that it competes with estrogen mimicking chemicals and estrogen and that is one of the mechanisms by which it helps fight cancer. I don't think it is a far leap to assume that it has some anti-e effects in the body however mild they might be.
I'll take a real anti-e and not risk the chances.

Thorgrim
27-11-2009, 10:20 PM
I'm not suggesting that it is going to replace a real anti-estrogen but it might be a nice addition to the diet especially for the natural guys and girls. If you do some further research on it you'll find that it is anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-viral, anti-cancer and good for the liver and it is a possible anti-estrogen. For the price of turmeric I don't see a downside. It is worth taking just for health reasons. I think I also have seen studies where it was helping protect against Alzheimer's disease as well. Like garlic it is a miracle herb.


Plant-derived health: the effects of turmeric and curcuminoids.
Bengmark S, Mesa MD, Gil A.

Institute of Hepatology, University College London Medical School, London.

Plants contain numerous polyphenols, which have been shown to reduce inflammation and hereby to increase resistance to disease. Examples of such polyphenols are isothiocyanates in cabbage and broccoli, epigallocatechin in green tee, capsaicin in chili peppers, chalones, rutin and naringenin in apples, resveratrol in red wine and fresh peanuts and curcumin/curcuminoids in turmeric. Most diseases are maintained by a sustained discreet but obvious increased systemic inflammation. Many studies suggest that the effect of treatment can be improved by a combination of restriction in intake of proinflammatory molecules such as advanced glycation end products (AGE), advanced lipoperoxidation end products (ALE), and rich supply of antiinflammatory molecules such as plant polyphenols. To the polyphenols with a bulk of experimental documentation belong the curcuminoid family and especially its main ingredient, curcumin. This review summarizes the present knowledge about these turmericderived ingredients, which have proven to be strong antioxidants and inhibitors of cyclooxigenase-2 (COX-2), lipoxygenase (LOX) and nuclear factor kappa B (NF-kappaB) but also AGE. A plethora of clinical effects are reported in various experimental diseases, but clinical studies in humans are few. It is suggested that supply of polyphenols and particularly curcuminoids might be value as complement to pharmaceutical treatment, but also prebiotic treatment, in conditions proven to be rather therapy-resistant such as Crohn's, long-stayed patients in intensive care units, but also in conditions such as cancer, liver cirrhosis, chronic renal disease, chronic obstructive lung disease, diabetes and Alzheimer's disease.

PMID: 19721899 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19721899?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed _ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=4

manfreakca
28-11-2009, 11:32 AM
tumeric is good to take alittle every day on foods salads,excellent for the body

musclehead123
01-12-2009, 03:21 PM
A friend of mine was taking it and he noticed increase in appetite. My family doc highly recommends it for all its "anti" properties.