test and tren

[mikejones34]

im kinda new at this i ran 6 weeks of bd winnie and now im running qv test and tren i inject sunday tuesday and thursday 1/2 cc of tren 3 times a week and 1cc of test 2 times a week im 6'4 226 will this blow me up and get me alot bigger. sorry if i sound kinda stupid just needing some help o and i run nitrix its a red bottle 3 pills a day and 1 cytogainer shake at nite

[gicantor]

will this blow me up and get me alot bigger.

No, only your diet and training will.

You need to be more specific about what your using. Test E? Tren ace? Your going to need more than a mass gainer shake to get big. Drop the nitrix and steroids for now.

[waderow]

dude. you need to read for about two days....

prepare to get:

[daande]

Ya you are a complete retard. What type of esters are your test and tren? How much is in 1mL of both of them, ie what is the concentration? Why did you run winny on its own? Did you do any sort of pct or do you even know what pct is? Did you take any time off after your stupid six week stint of winny? Why do people inject themselves with something they dont know anything about?

[mikejones34]

qv test enanthate and qv test trembolona both 10mL vials After winny took 3 weeks off i take milk thistle and nolvadex

[mikejones34]

dude. you need to read for about two days....

prepare to get:


flaming me on the internet does not hurt my feelings lol im just trying to learn something whats the point in talking shit im just clueless

[waderow]

flaming me on the internet does not hurt my feelings lol im just trying to learn something whats the point in talking shit im just clueless

so why the hell are you injecting drugs youre clueless about is the point everyones making.

[mikejones34]

my buddy had done it for 2 years and he just died in a car wreck and i got it the day before i was just asking a simple question will i get bigger and is what im doing ok Not anything else

[JonnyO]

Use the search tool on the site bro on the gear you have, you will learn how to properly use them sooner or later. But for now I would hold off of the cycle and wait until you know for sure what you are doing. Learn about proper nutrition as well as this is whats going to dictate how much gains you make off ANY cycle.

[mikejones34]

thanks man really appreciate the mature reply

[Solo59]

And be careful with that "test trembolona"!

Solo

[mikejones34]

u got me :)

[Memo]

Im not sure if tren is a good first cycle.. I kinda scared of this compound.

[_Ragnar_]

you also only need to post a question in one section

[mikejones34]

you also only need to post a question in one section


moved it to beginners cause i didn't really get anything out of it here thought it would be better there didn't notice it at first

[Redz]

Really if you cannot even tell us what tren ester you have how can we help you? Do you even have a pct lined up?

[daande]

Really if you cannot even tell us what tren ester you have how can we help you? Do you even have a pct lined up?

Exactly, if your running Tren Ace or Tren E it makes a big difference.

[waderow]

would you listen to us if you were told to not take any gear for a while and not take the tren for probably over a year from now?

[theboss]

would you listen to us if you were told to not take any gear for a while and not take the tren for probably over a year from now?

you already know the answer.........:popc

[mikejones34]

enantat qv 250 Trembolona qv 75

[mikejones34]

would you listen to us if you were told to not take any gear for a while and not take the tren for probably over a year from now?


already 3 weeks in

[Redz]

Trembolona qv 75 That isnt an ester but still it sounds like you are running tren ace which should be shot daily or every 2 days at the very minimum.

[GYMBRAT]

Use the search tool on the site bro on the gear you have, you will learn how to properly use them sooner or later. But for now I would hold off of the cycle and wait until you know for sure what you are doing. Learn about proper nutrition as well as this is whats going to dictate how much gains you make off ANY cycle.

x2, youll find some excellent info and it will help ya verify what you need for an A+ cycle.........sorry bout your friend bro, my deepest condolences!

[daande]

So it sounds like you are running:

Test Enan and Tren Ace (weird combo)

Also, I was unaware qv made Enan.

[GYMBRAT]

actually test e and tren a is a kickass combo to run bro, I loved it and am planning it for my next run

[ironwill]

So it sounds like you are running:

Test Enan and Tren Ace (weird combo)

Also, I was unaware qv made Enan.

who needs some education here....???hmmmm??
Test e, tren very popular combo...

Sorry to hear about your friend bro.......very sorry....
Good luck with yopur cycle, if it were me i would stick to the basics for awhile and get a couple of simple cycles under your belt...be aware of the changes emotionally that can occur with tren, even us very experienced users dont see it coming until we say or do something stupid.....
Crazy compound for some of us...If you have a bad reaction or tren instability, then stop and just do test only, it will make you nice and big on its own with a good diet, and consistent trng..
Peace

[daande]

who needs some education here....???hmmmm??
Test e, tren very popular combo...



Why would you run Tren Acetate with Test Enanthate? Why wouldnt you run Tren Enanthate with the test?

[ironwill]

Why would you run Tren Acetate with Test Enanthate? Why wouldnt you run Tren Enanthate with the test?

Why not, the half life is easily controlled on an acetate esther......Easier than enanthate IMO...

[daande]

Why not, the half life is easily controlled on an acetate esther......Easier than enanthate IMO...

Seems easier to jab twice a week in the same pin.

[Redz]

Seems easier to jab twice a week in the same pin.I`m with you I have never ran Tren Ace but have ran Tren E a few times and love it.

[natenator]

Seems easier to jab twice a week in the same pin.
all gears (except suspension) really should be shot EOD or ED if you want the most stable blood levels and least amount of sides possible.

[Solo59]

all gears (except suspension) really should be shot EOD or ED if you want the most stable blood levels and least amount of sides possible.

"...really should"? Maybe if you're a competitive bodybuilder, small differences add up. For the dedicated "recreational" BB, twice a week is plenty and most experience stable levels with this regimen. And if you're running Tren & Test, Tren e with Test e in the same dart twice a week is simply sensible and the most convenient.

Solo

[natenator]

"...really should"? Maybe if you're a competitive bodybuilder, small differences add up. For the dedicated "recreational" BB, twice a week is plenty and most experience stable levels with this regimen. And if you're running Tren & Test, Tren e with Test e in the same dart twice a week is simply sensible and the most convenient.

Solo
has nothing to do with getting the most out of the compound or for competitive bodybuilders vs. recreational one but rather ensuring stable blood levels thus keeping sides in check. Not sure what part of my original statement you didn't understand but hopefully you got it this time there, chief.

[mikejones34]

who needs some education here....???hmmmm??
Test e, tren very popular combo...

Sorry to hear about your friend bro.......very sorry....
Good luck with yopur cycle, if it were me i would stick to the basics for awhile and get a couple of simple cycles under your belt...be aware of the changes emotionally that can occur with tren, even us very experienced users dont see it coming until we say or do something stupid.....
Crazy compound for some of us...If you have a bad reaction or tren instability, then stop and just do test only, it will make you nice and big on its own with a good diet, and consistent trng..
Peace



thanks 4 everyones help! thats all i needed not people telling me im an idiot lol it was a simple question i just needed to know if what i was doing was ok. But everyone that helped me out thanks. also on the tren bottle it says 75mG / 1mL im doing 1/2 cc sunnday tuesday thursday should i up the dosage or is that ok

and i didn't know at first diet was a huge factor

but now

drinking a 54g protein shake when i wake up

1 after my workout

eating a light to heavy meal not to bad

then another shake before i go to bed..

[Solo59]

has nothing to do with getting the most out of the compound or for competitive bodybuilders vs. recreational one but rather ensuring stable blood levels thus keeping sides in check. Not sure what part of my original statement you didn't understand but hopefully you got it this time there, chief.

I'm just replying that most us experience few sides (keeping sides in check) with twice a week injects of long esters. I realize that keeping sides in check is even more assured with lesser amounts being injected EOD. (Also, when one is injecting large amounts of oil, there is little choice but to do them EOD or even ED.)

Solo

[gustavo77]

thanks 4 everyones help! thats all i needed not people telling me im an idiot lol it was a simple question i just needed to know if what i was doing was ok. But everyone that helped me out thanks. also on the tren bottle it says 75mG / 1mL im doing 1/2 cc sunnday tuesday thursday should i up the dosage or is that ok

and i didn't know at first diet was a huge factor

but now

drinking a 54g protein shake when i wake up

1 after my workout

eating a light to heavy meal not to bad

then another shake before i go to bed..

Firstly, how old are you bro?? How long have you been bodybuilding/training??

So from what i am reading above and correct me if i am wrong but you are eating only one whole food meal per day??

[mikejones34]

Firstly, how old are you bro?? How long have you been bodybuilding/training??

So from what i am reading above and correct me if i am wrong but you are eating only one whole food meal per day??


man im 19 i dont bodybuild i just like to workout hard it helps get shit off my mind and been working out for about 3-4 months probably really hard. im 6-4 226 ust to be 245 250 but after the winny went to 220 226 .. i also ust to drink 9 to 10 cokes a day and eat fukin burgers and shit now i have only been drinking water for 3-4 months Got alot more solid i ust to be really week but by the day im getting stronger alot stronger

[daande]

man im 19 i dont bodybuild i just like to workout hard it helps get shit off my mind and been working out for about 3-4 months probably really hard. im 6-4 226 ust to be 245 250 but after the winny went to 220 226 .. i also ust to drink 9 to 10 cokes a day and eat fukin burgers and shit now i have only been drinking water for 3-4 months Got alot more solid i ust to be really week but by the day im getting stronger alot stronger

WOW..you have been working out for 3-4 months and you have already done 1 cycle of winny and now your on TREN HAHAHAHA

[mikejones34]

WOW..you have been working out for 3-4 months and you have already done 1 cycle of winny and now your on TREN HAHAHAHA


6 weeks winny 1 month reg. then tren and test is it really that bad

[daande]

6 weeks winny 1 month reg. then tren and test is it really that bad

Yes that is really dumb. You should be able to blow up naturally in your first 2 years of training (atleast). I trained for 8 years before doing any steroids (16-24). Anyways, my advice would be to come off the juice asap and do a proper PCT. And I would ask alot of questions on here and read on the internet. Get a proper diet down and a proper training protocol down. Make sure you train with very good form so you dont get injured and maximize your gains. Maybe after training for a year see if you want to do juice. I think people need to get a solid foundation of muscle before deciding to do steroids. But its your choice in the end. I think if you continue on this path you will get injured easily in the future. Especially with your tendons.

[mikejones34]

Yes that is really dumb. You should be able to blow up naturally in your first 2 years of training (atleast). I trained for 8 years before doing any steroids (16-24). Anyways, my advice would be to come off the juice asap and do a proper PCT. And I would ask alot of questions on here and read on the internet. Get a proper diet down and a proper training protocol down. Make sure you train with very good form so you dont get injured and maximize your gains. Maybe after training for a year see if you want to do juice. I think people need to get a solid foundation of muscle before deciding to do steroids. But its your choice in the end. I think if you continue on this path you will get injured easily in the future. Especially with your tendons.


after this cycle im done was thinking about anadrol about a year later

[daande]

After doing injectable you wouldn't be happy with a oral only cycle. What are you doing for PCT?

[mikejones34]

After doing injectable you wouldn't be happy with a oral only cycle. What are you doing for PCT?


probably NOLVAdeX im from uS cant really get clomid easy but when should i start it im on my second week of injectable ps. the winny was tabsss i like it just not the whole milk thistle all the time .. always forget i dont like needles lol but its going ok

[daande]

probably NOLVAdeX im from uS cant really get clomid easy but when should i start it im on my second week of injectable ps. the winny was tabsss i like it just not the whole milk thistle all the time .. always forget i dont like needles lol but its going ok

Try to get ahold of some HCG from your source as tren will shut you down pretty hard. Nolvadex is fine 3 weeks after your last jab of Test E start taking nolva

Week 1: 40mg ED
Week 2: 30mg ED
Week 3: 20mg ED
Week 4: 20mg ED

If you can get ahold of HCG try to get 10,000iu of it and stab about 1500iu of it EOD for 2 weeks starting directly after your last jab of Test.

[mikejones34]

Try to get ahold of some HCG from your source as tren will shut you down pretty hard. Nolvadex is fine 3 weeks after your last jab of Test E start taking nolva

Week 1: 40mg ED
Week 2: 30mg ED
Week 3: 20mg ED
Week 4: 20mg ED

If you can get ahold of HCG try to get 10,000iu of it and stab about 1500iu of it EOD for 2 weeks starting directly after your last jab of Test.


HCG could probably be pretty simple to get ahold of at the local gym there is a program there doing guarenteed to lose 30lbs in 30 days lol and it says HCG i dont really know what i would ask this guy he would probably say why do u need it

[Memo]

this guy gotta be a troll

[mikejones34]

this guy gotta be a troll


actually this guy is about 6'5 270 looks like hulk hes a trainer your prolly a troll

[Memo]

actually this guy is about 6'5 270 looks like hulk hes a trainer your prolly a troll

Who are you talking about?

[mikejones34]

Who are you talking about?

i dont kno who u were referring to as being a troll but usually people who talk over the internet aren't much :)

[daande]

Who are you talking about?

LOL HAHAHAHHAHA He was thinking you were talking about the trainer at his gym lol.

[mikejones34]

LOL HAHAHAHHAHA He was thinking you were talking about the trainer at his gym lol.

if he was refferring to me ya im a troll 5'2 90 pounds hahahhaahaha

[Memo]

i dont kno who u were referring to as being a troll but usually people who talk over the internet aren't much :)

I just cannot believe everything you say. Its blowing my mind. Did you just randomly bought a couple compound and randomly inject them expecting to look like a bodybuilder? I wish it did not come to this. But I cant help it..

[Solo59]

MikeJones, leave steroids & prohormones alone for a few years until you've learned how to train, eat, and sleep properly. Maybe in that time you can educate yourself on safe, effective usage. This is a good place to begin your learning but you need some background reading first. Just hearing shit at your gym isn't good enough.

Good luck & strong will,

Solo

[mikejones34]

I just cannot believe everything you say. Its blowing my mind. Did you just randomly bought a couple compound and randomly inject them expecting to look like a bodybuilder? I wish it did not come to be rude. But I cant help it..

i dnt wanna look like a bodybuilder lol never want to never will look like one and how did i just randomly buy a random compound. i obviously new a little bit about it to get it im doing something right it works pretty damn well. Sorry i dont know all the RESOURCES to everything about the item i haven't researched on the internet for 2 years trying to find out everything about tren and test honestly i dont care i just am trying to get solid. that is all lol Dude i dont need the shit talking i just was trying to learn a little bit more and find out what all i need to do to get bigger quicker and i have accomplished that so no need to keep talkin cuz its a waist of your time it doesn't hurt me i just laugh

[mikejones34]

MikeJones, leave steroids & prohormones alone for a few years until your learned how to train, eat, and sleep properly. Maybe in that time you can educate yourself on safe, effective usage. This is a good place to begin your learning but you need some background reading first. Just hearing shit at your gym isn't good enough.

Good luck & strong will,

Solo

thanks man

[Memo]

i dnt wanna look like a bodybuilder lol never want to never will look like one and how did i just randomly buy a random compound. i obviously new a little bit about it to get it im doing something right it works pretty damn well. Sorry i dont know all the RESOURCES to everything about the item i haven't researched on the internet for 2 years trying to find out everything about tren and test honestly i dont care i just am trying to get solid. that is all lol Dude i dont need the shit talking i just was trying to learn a little bit more and find out what all i need to do to get bigger quicker and i have accomplished that so no need to keep talkin cuz its a waist of your time it doesn't hurt me i just laugh

Strong ignorance in this post. Hope you enjoy the ride. I wish you the best.

[mikejones34]

Strong ignorance in this post. Hope you enjoy the ride. I wish you the best.

well thank u ha

[monkey]

There are several levels of maturity... and I am not sure if you have the neccesary maturity, which is evident when considering how irresponsible you are.

Without intending to insult you.. what I am trying to bring across ( like others) is that you don't know what you are doing to yourself.

Ignoring the obvious facts that you don't know much about training, diet etc... DO you realize what Tren is??
Its a hard core steroid that has a variety of heavy sides... and extremely effective as well. DO you know what gyno is? do you have stuff to avoid progesterone related gyno? Any idea what the lack of proper PCT can do to your cock? You realize what this shit can does to your hair???

I am not talking bad about Tren .. but you SHOULD not opt for using steroids if you don't know what you are injecting, what the consequences are and especially what risks you are taking. To me, considering all this and still accepting it is a well contemplated decision...

As everybody mentioned.. you are wasting the roids since yourbody has soo much potential at this point... but you dont care, we all know.

1. Drop the roids
2. get your pct
3 get a trainer
4 eat train hard ... develop a routine , make it your lifestyle
5))) Listen to peoples advice and stop being ignorant towards people that know what they are talking about. Learning is the key to everything...

anyways... good luck with whatever.. and please make my day in 3 months with a thread such as "my cock won't work,, what is PCT???

[natenator]

man im 19 i dont bodybuild i just like to workout hard it helps get shit off my mind and been working out for about 3-4 months probably really hard. im 6-4 226 ust to be 245 250 but after the winny went to 220 226 .. i also ust to drink 9 to 10 cokes a day and eat fukin burgers and shit now i have only been drinking water for 3-4 months Got alot more solid i ust to be really week but by the day im getting stronger alot stronger
wow


that is all. Just wow

[Memo]

wow


that is all. Just wow

Its why I really don't know what to say about this thread. It is very sad how this kid does not realize what he is getting himself into.

[rob66679]

i dnt wanna look like a bodybuilder lol never want to never will look like one and how did i just randomly buy a random compound. i obviously new a little bit about it to get it im doing something right it works pretty damn well. Sorry i dont know all the RESOURCES to everything about the item i haven't researched on the internet for 2 years trying to find out everything about tren and test honestly i dont care i just am trying to get solid. that is all lol Dude i dont need the shit talking i just was trying to learn a little bit more and find out what all i need to do to get bigger quicker and i have accomplished that so no need to keep talkin cuz its a waist of your time it doesn't hurt me i just laugh

Idiots like this is why AAS is illegal without a prescription. The Governments way of trying to prevent natural selection from taking place.........

He figures because he was smart enough to score it, theres nothing wrong with his plan for taking it. Guys almost unbelieveable.

You're a ****in idiot, thats not flaming you, thats the truth. You don't know what you're taking, how or when to take it and you're PCT is not gonna help coming off tren at all.

Hope ya got a Viagra hookup bro, you're gonna need lots of it.

[HardWood]

Your so right rob. Its sad but true.

Many of you have shown amazing levels of self restraint with this guy but I enjoyed the flame thrower pic too!

This thread just floored me its not like I havent seen anything like this but this takes the cake for the "dumbest thing I've seen recently" award.

[mikejones34]

Idiots like this is why AAS is illegal without a prescription. The Governments way of trying to prevent natural selection from taking place.........

He figures because he was smart enough to score it, theres nothing wrong with his plan for taking it. Guys almost unbelieveable.

You're a ****in idiot, thats not flaming you, thats the truth. You don't know what you're taking, how or when to take it and you're PCT is not gonna help coming off tren at all.

Hope ya got a Viagra hookup bro, you're gonna need lots of it.



1CC every other day + HCG + Nolvadex After. ha

[monkey]

you know.. i am starting to think that it is somebody on this board playing a prank..
I hope at least since I have a hard time believing that this guy is serious...too retarded and arogant to be true...

if you are real.. stop trying to sound smart... you aren't , trust me :popc2

[mikejones34]

you know.. i am starting to think that it is somebody on this board playing a prank..
I hope at least since I have a hard time believing that this guy is serious...too retarded and arogant to be true...

if you are real.. stop trying to sound smart... you aren't , trust me :popc2

maybe if yall u fukin idiots that all you wanna do is rag on me would help a little bit instead of saying stop now cuz your an idiot when im in my 3rd week its a 10mL vial wont last very much longer i was just fuking needing to know a little info not all yalls bs. shit talkin. i didnt know u people from canada talked that much shit every time i comedown there from the states usually its a whole different story everyone is nice as shit.

[nitrous]

terrible thread

[Memo]

I wish I could just never think again about this thread. But Its hard.

[rob66679]

maybe if yall u fukin idiots that all you wanna do is rag on me would help a little bit instead of saying stop now cuz your an idiot when im in my 3rd week its a 10mL vial wont last very much longer i was just fuking needing to know a little info not all yalls bs. shit talkin. i didnt know u people from canada talked that much shit every time i comedown there from the states usually its a whole different story everyone is nice as shit.

What ****in trailer park "yall" come from?

Its not talking shit, its the truth. If you actually took the time to read up a bit you'd know that. Only an ignorant idiot would do what you've done, and then get shitty when people tried to help you.

Yes, thats right, people telling you tren is a bad idea FOR YOU RIGHT NOW are trying to help you. But you've gained a little bit, so you figure you're the smartest inbred in your doublewide, and won't listen.

Go to BB.com, you'll fit right in bro. Def a better fit for you, you can be among your peers........ BTW....... Make sure if you're gonna use that HGC after cycle, that you shoot all 5k at once.
Might as well go full blown retarded bro, no sense going 9/10........

[gustavo77]

i dnt wanna look like a bodybuilder lol never want to never will look like one and how did i just randomly buy a random compound. i obviously new a little bit about it to get it im doing something right it works pretty damn well. Sorry i dont know all the RESOURCES to everything about the item i haven't researched on the internet for 2 years trying to find out everything about tren and test honestly i dont care i just am trying to get solid. that is all lol Dude i dont need the shit talking i just was trying to learn a little bit more and find out what all i need to do to get bigger quicker and i have accomplished that so no need to keep talkin cuz its a waist of your time it doesn't hurt me i just laugh

If you want to get solid then drop the f**king drugs and start eating more than one meal per day. You are doing yourself more harm than good...do you care about your health?? If so, stop taking AAS.

[gsxr750]

STOP DOING WHAT YOURE DOING!!

But since you wont..

Stop the tren.

Inject 250mg Test-E twice a week. Inject 350iu HCG 3x a week

Do this for 12 weeks then nolvadex protocol

Eat clean, no simple sugars, low bad fats. Eat 6 at least times a day, 50g protein 50g carb 20g fat in each meal. No fats in post workout meal.

Lift heavy with proper form. 1 warmup then at least 3 sets of a weight you struggle to get 6-8 reps out of. Can do chest/tris day, back/bis day, shoulders/legs day.

You really need to research more before diving in. You can really mess yourself up permanently if you don't.

[ELCANADA]

maybe if yall u fukin idiots that all you wanna do is rag on me would help a little bit instead of saying stop now cuz your an idiot when im in my 3rd week its a 10mL vial wont last very much longer i was just fuking needing to know a little info not all yalls bs. shit talkin. i didnt know u people from canada talked that much shit every time i comedown there from the states usually its a whole different story everyone is nice as shit.

Americans don't come "down" here ..its true y'all really are horrible with geography.

For real bro....EVERYONE here has told you to stop what your doing...I thinks when this many people come down on you...you should begin to question what your getting into.

At this point I think its past ignorance as we have all given you facts...now you are at the point of ignoring the FACTS....which in my opinion is worse that pure ignorance.

By your words we know you are going to do this no matter what...so why bother coming on her asking for advise and not taking it.... **** off.

[Memo]

This thread is a lost cause.

[Memo]

Americans don't come "down" here ..its true y'all really are horrible with geography.

For real bro....EVERYONE here has told you to stop what your doing...I thinks when this many people come down on you...you should begin to question what your getting into.

At this point I think its past ignorance as we have all given you facts...now you are at the point of ignoring the FACTS....which in my opinion is worse that pure ignorance.

By your words we know you are going to do this no matter what...so why bother coming on her asking for advise and not taking it.... **** off.

This is exactly what I think. Thank you for putting words on my thoughts.

[tex]

watch it...Im an American and I come down to Canada all the time ;) on a side note.....THROW YOUR GEAR IN THE GARBAGE AND EAT PROPERLY AND YOU WONT BE A FAT ****ING PIG! :) thank you please drive through