18yo deadlifting 800 at 253 pounds. [Archive] - CANADA BODYBUILDING

Andre

09-09-2009, 05:33 PM

It's funny reading the comments of the haters out there!

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=69744

tiramisu

09-09-2009, 05:39 PM

Awesome lift. I'm finally pulling 4 plates a side @ 220 and dreaming of 5 by spring. 800 @ that age and weight is amazing.

GYMBRAT

09-09-2009, 05:54 PM

that's pretty wicked for his age man, right on! I'm 37 @ 250 and pulling 615 for max, so hell yeah that's awesome!

Danger

09-09-2009, 06:02 PM

Deffinatly a crazy lift, kinda gotta wonder why someone with those genetics is screwing around powerlifting instead of playing football or something that pays a little better.

swolegantor

09-09-2009, 06:35 PM

Deffinatly a crazy lift, kinda gotta wonder why someone with those genetics is screwing around powerlifting instead of playing football or something that pays a little better.

Because they don't play football?

Big D

09-09-2009, 08:47 PM

wow , hes ****ing strong.

I can't believe people are being negative in that thread.

The Grim Repper

09-09-2009, 08:49 PM

bigtavi8

09-09-2009, 08:57 PM

Simply amazing. Wow he may have a bright future in PL. Im impressed with how clean and easy he does these enormous weights for his age. He may be natural who knows theres bound to be a genetic freak here and there in this sport so...i dont doubt him but **** really puts me to shame and im 20.LOL but im not a PL so its all good.

ubcpower

09-09-2009, 09:09 PM

LOL , i love all the gear accusation comments as if no training and hard work went into it except a needle

Ritch

09-09-2009, 11:12 PM

Guys an absolute freak. With that kind of strength I can`t help but wonder how good of a football player he`d make. But maybe he just loves powerlifting and chooses to focus solely on that. They should have him as a guest on NBR. About the whole natural status. I don`t really care whether he uses or not, but for a guy who`s just turned 19 he has the hair line of a guy in his late 30`s. Could be genetic, just saying, not hating...

waderow

09-09-2009, 11:44 PM

on his 510 bench, the butt **** spotter on the right (lifters left) put him off balance

faller

10-09-2009, 01:36 AM

Amazeing lifts!!

I read some of the comments and i recognize some of the haters from other boards. Number one reason i never go to those boards anymore.

swolegantor

10-09-2009, 01:43 AM

I forgot that everyone on steroids can deadlift 800 pounds THANKS MD!

cdnsoldier

10-09-2009, 09:07 AM

It's funny reading the comments of the haters out there!

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=69744

There are a lot of haters but natural? Yeah about as natural as the Big Mac. And 18? Hate to see him at 40. The "kid" already looks like he's pushing middleage.

_Ragnar_

10-09-2009, 09:45 AM

This guys a nut, I love it.

I played football with a guy in high school who could have easily passed for 35. He too was a crazy strong bastard with the hairline of a 40 year old. He plays for the lions now.

waderow

10-09-2009, 09:49 AM

I was receding at age 18. Does that mean I abused steroids too?

Everyone who has a problem with the guy is jealous, because why would they give a **** otherwise.

Impressive lifts, that I can honestly say will never do (except the bench press)

theboss

10-09-2009, 09:52 AM

good work ..

i agree...he could be natural..receding means nothing...in highschool there were guys with hair like his and strong..not like this guy but they didnt work at it either.

_Ragnar_

10-09-2009, 10:02 AM

I was receding at age 18.

Me too

Ritch

10-09-2009, 10:47 AM

I was receding at age 18. Does that mean I abused steroids too?

Everyone who has a problem with the guy is jealous, because why would they give a **** otherwise.

Impressive lifts, that I can honestly say will never do (except the bench press)

To say I`m jealous of another`s strength or shape is because you really don`t know me. Jealousness is a feeling I do not have. When some dude talks to me about his bench, squat and other lifts I just tune him out and nod my head as I always have guys telling me this. Unless I ask you about this, telling me is bragging and I can`t stand attention whore, braggers. It`s like telling me how much you have in your bank account. Keep that for yourself buddy, telling this to others makes you a douche. Like most guys who are attention whores with their phyisques, showing off every chance they get. I seriously don`t give a crap about other guys physiques. It`s weird, to me it`s like if your talking about your cock saying "I`ve got a 12 inches..." I couldn`t care less. I do this because I love it and the way it makes me look and feel. Besides chances are he is juicing with lifts like that, to think otherwise is playing the 1 or 2 percent chance he is not. So you know...

ironwill

10-09-2009, 11:03 AM

^^^ you care come on...wanna see some pics??

Ritch

10-09-2009, 11:12 AM

LOL! ^^^ I`ve know guys who pull out their cell phones and start showing me pics, I`m like what the ****? I was hoping to see some naked chicks and what do I get? Some dude doing a rear lat spread. Oh brother... This other guy getting ready for a show I haven`t seen in a while in the metro, insists that he has to pull down his pants to show me his ripped glutes... In the metro! What the hell man. It`s funny but very weird...

waderow

10-09-2009, 11:42 AM

To say I`m jealous of another`s strength or shape is because you really don`t know me. Jealousness is a feeling I do not have. When some dude talks to me about his bench, squat and other lifts I just tune him out and nod my head as I always have guys telling me this. Unless I ask you about this, telling me is bragging and I can`t stand attention whore, braggers. It`s like telling me how much you have in your bank account. Keep that for yourself buddy, telling this to others makes you a douche. Like most guys who are attention whores with their phyisques, showing off every chance they get. I seriously don`t give a crap about other guys physiques. It`s weird, to me it`s like if your talking about your cock saying "I`ve got a 12 inches..." I couldn`t care less. I do this because I love it and the way it makes me look and feel. Besides chances are he is juicing with lifts like that, to think otherwise is playing the 1 or 2 percent chance he is not. So you know...

I wasnt singling you out bro, and infact didnt even read your post yet. I was commenting on the MD comments

MuSuLPhReAk

10-09-2009, 11:46 AM

Regardless of natural or not those are very impressive lifts.

Ritch

10-09-2009, 11:52 AM

I wasnt singling you out bro, and infact didnt even read your post yet. I was commenting on the MD comments

Didn`t read my post? How dare you, lol! I didn`t read the MD comments, but it`s common for people to accuse others of using when they tripple their 1 rep max`s at such a young age. That`s why they`re freaks and are featured in mags and we`re not... But I still think he uses.

waderow

10-09-2009, 12:42 PM

But I still think he uses.

lol probably. But I use, and not a chance in hell I am pulling 800 with out prolapsing.

AlladdinSane

10-09-2009, 02:37 PM

prolapsing

hehehe

swolegantor

10-09-2009, 02:41 PM

I can name right now 2 natural teens putting out numbers like that who I talk too personally.

The crybaby is strong in this thread.

Ritch

10-09-2009, 03:25 PM

I can name right now 2 natural teens putting out numbers like that who I talk too personally.

The crybaby is strong in this thread.

Yeah well, I`ll believe it when I see it. Crybaby is a stupid word to describe doubt.

nisser

10-09-2009, 08:09 PM

I can name right now 2 natural teens putting out numbers like that who I talk too personally.

Ok, then do it.

Not that I give a shit but I hate when people say that.

Ritch

10-09-2009, 08:20 PM

^^^ Word.

cdnsoldier

10-09-2009, 09:41 PM

I can name right now 2 natural teens putting out numbers like that who I talk too personally.

The crybaby is strong in this thread.

You know two teens? So you haning out with an older crowd. Grow up you idiot.Go back to chan4.

No one is "crying". The numbers are impressive.
Not impressive: Teens using the juice.

18 year olds looking like 40 year olds? Screw that.

This board people like to talk about "responsible and safe use" but 18 is way too young. The guys on MD are hitting what's WRONG with the picture. And what's wrong is kids are dipping way too young these days.Makes me wonder what the average age of some of you users are.

Next time you cry "why do the cops hit sterids so hard". Well read some Medical Journals where Doctors are crying that "prohormones" and "anabolics" are making 21 year olds show up with jaundice and needing transplants. That's what is bothering people. Not the amount he lifts.

Yeah yeah "How do You know he's on the juice".....

faller

11-09-2009, 12:26 AM

are making 21 year olds show up with jaundice and needing transplants.

Another fact??

cdnsoldier

11-09-2009, 02:52 AM

Another fact??

Maybe because you're full of shit you think everyone else is???????? You know some people talk becaus ethey have seenthe evidence??Just maybe???

And that's a fact.

This same article/presentation was taken from a very respected Medical Journal. This same article has been presented to various Senate hearings 3x. This same article also makes a nice linkage to anabolics steriods by comparing Superdrol to Anadrol).

It's idiots like these guys that bring the heat down and give the govt. ammunition to go after anabolics harder than other street drugsl:

You can find the article from Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit who have been known to go on silly crusades.

cdnsoldier

11-09-2009, 02:54 AM

Notcie the linkage to anabolics. And they mention he was 21 about 3-4 x. Read this and think what their agenda is.

Liver specialists at the Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit have reported another three cases of bodybuilders who developed liver damage as a result of using designer supplements. The men used Anabolic Xtreme’s Superdrol or BMF Hardcore’s M-Test 2, a product containing the steroid madol.

The Superdrol user was 21. He was nauseous, had stopped eating, had jaundice and itched all over. He’d been using
Superdrol for a couple of months and his liver was not functioning properly. His data is shown in the table below, under the heading Patient 1.

When the symptoms had got worse after two weeks, the doctors gave him prednisone. The anti-inflammatory worked and after another six weeks, he'd made a pretty good recovery.

Superdrol is a steroid whose structure and synthesis resemble those of oxymetholone. It was also developed and tested in the late fifties by the makers of oxymetholone, the American pharmaceutical company Syntex. Although superdrol [see structural formula below] looked like a promising anabolic steroid in animal tests, in subsequent tests potential side effects showed up.
Syntex decided not to put Superdrol on the market. But that didn’t stop designer supplement makers from marketing the forgotten steroid years later.

The effects of this move are clearly seen in the medical journals. In 2006 doctors in Phoenix, Arizona published an article on the case of bodybuilder who became fatally ill after using superdrol. [Am J Gastroenterol. 2006 Nov;101(11):2659-62.] A few months later doctors at Johns Hopkins University published another case and a case in which another designer steroid – Halodrol – had caused liver damage. [Clin Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2007 Jul;5(7):809-12.] And another few months after that, doctors from Burlington wrote about five more bodybuilders who had developed liver problems as a result of superdrol. [Clin Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2008 Feb;6(2):255-8.]

Anyways the point of the story is first let you balls fully fall and then think about taking steroids. If you are 25 and under (and that's generous) you really have no business taking steroids. When these young punks show up at the hospitals with livers of a 75 year old alcoholic- well the shits going to hit the fan.

Que the teenagers. I know, I'm a meanie.

faller

11-09-2009, 08:10 AM

How does asking a question make me full of shit?? Anyway, i can't make out the attachment, can you make it bigger?

waderow

11-09-2009, 10:00 AM

I can name right now 2 natural teens putting out numbers like that who I talk too personally.

The crybaby is strong in this thread.

get them onto CBB bro. They would be a great asset

waderow

11-09-2009, 10:08 AM

You know two teens? So you haning out with an older crowd. Grow up you idiot.Go back to chan4.

No one is "crying". The numbers are impressive.
Not impressive: Teens using the juice.

18 year olds looking like 40 year olds? Screw that.

This board people like to talk about "responsible and safe use" but 18 is way too young. The guys on MD are hitting what's WRONG with the picture. And what's wrong is kids are dipping way too young these days.Makes me wonder what the average age of some of you users are.

Next time you cry "why do the cops hit sterids so hard". Well read some Medical Journals where Doctors are crying that "prohormones" and "anabolics" are making 21 year olds show up with jaundice and needing transplants. That's what is bothering people. Not the amount he lifts.

Yeah yeah "How do You know he's on the juice".....

everyone can cry all they want about it, but it wont change. 90% of all american competitive highschool football players use. High school athletes in general. High School G-unit tough guys. You name it.

All the bitching and complaining in the world and attacking other members here will not change that, so why dont you grow up, and deal with it and worry more about your dose...which is obviously too high

faller

11-09-2009, 10:36 AM

so why dont you grow up,

Lol, i've been watching this guys post's and i'm thinking he's in his late teen's or very early 20's, with anger issue's.. Guess mom didn't have any soap in the house to wash his mouth out.

waderow

11-09-2009, 10:45 AM

Lol, i've been watching this guys post's and i'm thinking he's in his late teen's or very early 20's, with anger issue's.. Guess mom didn't have any soap in the house to wash his mouth out.

the dude probably has a lot to add to the board, but all he does is attack EVERYONE. Relentless nonstop insults to anyone who he feels is making a statement that doesn't jive with his thought pattern, which may come as a surprise to him, but his is not always the right answer.

swolegantor

11-09-2009, 06:10 PM

You know two teens? So you haning out with an older crowd. Grow up you idiot.Go back to chan4.

No one is "crying". The numbers are impressive.
Not impressive: Teens using the juice.

18 year olds looking like 40 year olds? Screw that.

This board people like to talk about "responsible and safe use" but 18 is way too young. The guys on MD are hitting what's WRONG with the picture. And what's wrong is kids are dipping way too young these days.Makes me wonder what the average age of some of you users are.

Next time you cry "why do the cops hit sterids so hard". Well read some Medical Journals where Doctors are crying that "prohormones" and "anabolics" are making 21 year olds show up with jaundice and needing transplants. That's what is bothering people. Not the amount he lifts.

Yeah yeah "How do You know he's on the juice".....

I am sorry for paying attention to younger lifters moving incredible numbers, I am obviously a retard.

The rest of your post is a straw man argument so I am not even going to bother responding to it.

swolegantor

11-09-2009, 06:14 PM

get them onto CBB bro. They would be a great asset

They are both from Florida. I doubt the guy need dudes like asshole mc **** face chip on his shoulder lecturing them about things they don't even use anyhow.

Here is one of the dudes youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/geoleeman

He has been slacking off the past year because of some personal stuff but has been getting back into it recently. 90% of the things people say to him would fill kegs of hateraide daily

swolegantor

11-09-2009, 06:17 PM

Yeah well, I`ll believe it when I see it. Crybaby is a stupid word to describe doubt.

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Shortdave

11-09-2009, 11:42 PM

Youtube link posted

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While it's still a bunch of weight, it's less impressive when it's not even double his bodyweight.

hommes

12-09-2009, 12:10 AM

that deadlift is remarkable at any age, just so happens that the kid is 18. that makes him incredible. that weight is dreamt by most of us, and he's actually doing. now on another note i feel the bench o.k. he seemed to arch his back an awful lot, it was more like a decline at best. but who am i to judge, maybe that is how things are done at power meets. still he is one strong ass kid, either way you look at it. props to that kid.

hommes

12-09-2009, 12:12 AM

what do they put in the water fountains at these schools, A50's. i just seen these other younger kids. wow how times have changed.

faller

12-09-2009, 09:24 AM

what do they put in the water fountains at these schools, A50's. i just seen these other younger kids. wow how times have changed.

Its all the steroids the beef industry is putting in thier cattle, lol.. Haven't you noticed how kids today are so damned tall? I've walked into store's and waited in the lineup with a bunch of school kids and i don't think a single kid there was under 6"1'.

Plus there's a lot more info available on training and diet now compared to when I was in school. Christ there was nothing back than in regards to info.

swolegantor

12-09-2009, 01:57 PM

While it's still a bunch of weight, it's less impressive when it's not even double his bodyweight.

I am going to assume this is a clever trolling attempt and you are not really that retarded.

According to wilks score

675 squat at 330 pounds (his bw at the time)= 169.8 (just a bit over 2x bw)

500 squat at 200 pounds =156 (2.5 times bw)

Wilks is used by the Ipf to judge a lifters strength relative to bw. This is because as someone gets heavier relative strength does not increase as it does at lighter weights. Of course I pray to god you know this...

swolegantor

12-09-2009, 01:59 PM

that deadlift is remarkable at any age, just so happens that the kid is 18. that makes him incredible. that weight is dreamt by most of us, and he's actually doing. now on another note i feel the bench o.k. he seemed to arch his back an awful lot, it was more like a decline at best. but who am i to judge, maybe that is how things are done at power meets. still he is one strong ass kid, either way you look at it. props to that kid.

In powerlifting comps you arch your back as much as you can.

You should see some of the lighter weight classes arch it is insane

Shortdave

12-09-2009, 02:33 PM

I am going to assume this is a clever trolling attempt and you are not really that retarded.

According to wilks score

675 squat at 330 pounds (his bw at the time)= 169.8 (just a bit over 2x bw)

500 squat at 200 pounds =156 (2.5 times bw)

Wilks is used by the Ipf to judge a lifters strength relative to bw. This is because as someone gets heavier relative strength does not increase as it does at lighter weights. Of course I pray to god you know this...

For a guy over 300lbs IN KNEE WRAPS who is douchey enough to throw a bench before his set, I am expecting huge numbers. Like I said, it's still a lot of weight, and it IS impressive, it's just a relatively standard squat for guys that size.

swolegantor

12-09-2009, 03:40 PM

For a guy over 300lbs IN KNEE WRAPS who is douchey enough to throw a bench before his set, I am expecting huge numbers. Like I said, it's still a lot of weight, and it IS impressive, it's just a relatively standard squat for guys that size.

OFMGFGLOL KNEE WRAPS HOLY SHIT NEW ELEMENT

your correct 675 is totally average for most 16 year olds with 2 years of training.

I got some vids of poundstone deadlifting in STRAPS maybe you should mention something like "Good weight, but straps make it less impressive"

that would be cool too.

****ing retard.

Shortdave

12-09-2009, 03:53 PM

Well he claims raw, knee wraps are equipment.

Maybe when you get strong instead of being a fat guy who claims to be a weak powerlifter you can call somebody a retard, until that point in time my opinion is my opinion.

swolegantor

12-09-2009, 04:11 PM

Well he claims raw, knee wraps are equipment.

Maybe when you get strong instead of being a fat guy who claims to be a weak powerlifter you can call somebody a retard, until that point in time my opinion is my opinion.

Oh cool a personal attack in response. I guess that means you have nothing left to contribute?

****ing retard

Shortdave

12-09-2009, 04:21 PM

Oh cool a personal attack in response. I guess that means you have nothing left to contribute?

****ing retard

Every reply you made to me was a personal attack.
I am not trying to take anything away from that kid, he is young and strong and he is going to be a heck of a great powerlifter. But a 675 squat at 330 is not overly impressive to me, it's like slam dunking a basketball when you are 7ft tall. It's expected.

Danger

12-09-2009, 04:43 PM

lol, its kinda funny that this thread ended up going pretty muich exactly like the thread in the first post. Coincidence?

Shortdave

12-09-2009, 04:50 PM

lol, its kinda funny that this thread ended up going pretty muich exactly like the thread in the first post. Coincidence?

Yeah, I feel kinda like a douche now. Sorry guys.

cdnsoldier

13-09-2009, 02:17 AM

Lol, i've been watching this guys post's and i'm thinking he's in his late teen's or very early 20's, with anger issue's.. Guess mom didn't have any soap in the house to wash his mouth out.

And that's your idiotic response to me showing what an idiot you are? At least post a link or something. As I said when I talk it's because it's a fact so save your sarcasm.

I'm glad you watch my post. I 'm sure you're learning something. I would watch yours but I usually don't follow prepubes thinking they know it all. I have been using juice longer than you been on tis earth and I can guarentee that. And yes that's another fact tough guy.

BTW, you really belong in this thread with these other guys. It's funny watching these 19 year olds argue. WSell now that funny. Mine will be 19 soon. About your age.

vanskelig

13-09-2009, 10:03 AM

And that's your idiotic response to me showing what an idiot you are? At least post a link or something. As I said when I talk it's because it's a fact so save your sarcasm.

I'm glad you watch my post. I 'm sure you're learning something. I would watch yours but I usually don't follow prepubes thinking they know it all. I have been using juice longer than you been on tis earth and I can guarentee that. And yes that's another fact tough guy.

BTW, you really belong in this thread with these other guys. It's funny watching these 19 year olds argue. WSell now that funny. Mine will be 19 soon. About your age.

you are drunk?

MuSuLPhReAk

13-09-2009, 10:46 AM

cdnsoldier, please check your pm.

The Grim Repper

13-09-2009, 10:48 AM

And that's your idiotic response to me showing what an idiot you are? At least post a link or something. As I said when I talk it's because it's a fact so save your sarcasm.

I'm glad you watch my post. I 'm sure you're learning something. I would watch yours but I usually don't follow prepubes thinking they know it all. I have been using juice longer than you been on tis earth and I can guarentee that. And yes that's another fact tough guy.

BTW, you really belong in this thread with these other guys. It's funny watching these 19 year olds argue. WSell now that funny. Mine will be 19 soon. About your age.

You seriously need to check yourself. Faller is old enough to be your father. Man show respect to others here and the site.

faller

13-09-2009, 10:55 AM

And that's your idiotic response to me showing what an idiot you are? At least post a link or something. As I said when I talk it's because it's a fact so save your sarcasm.

I'm glad you watch my post. I 'm sure you're learning something. I would watch yours but I usually don't follow prepubes thinking they know it all. I have been using juice longer than you been on tis earth and I can guarentee that. And yes that's another fact tough guy.

BTW, you really belong in this thread with these other guys. It's funny watching these 19 year olds argue. WSell now that funny. Mine will be 19 soon. About your age.

Lol, as in the word's of the great Waderow, "time to grow up"........Son. :troll

Tiamat

13-09-2009, 11:25 AM

cdnsoldier = randy savage

Enough said.

deleteduser0001

13-09-2009, 01:09 PM

cdnsoldier = randy savage

Enough said.

+1

CanadianIron

15-09-2009, 12:58 PM

Incredible video regardless of what the guy is taking, i could pin for the next 5 years straight and still not deadlift what that guy is lifting. When i was 18 i could barely deadlift 100lbs.

AlladdinSane

15-09-2009, 03:05 PM

Incredible video regardless of what the guy is taking, i could pin for the next 5 years straight and still not deadlift what that guy is lifting. When i was 18 i could barely deadlift 100lbs.

Yeah, but he prob can't curl 70lb bells! That would just be ludicrous!!! <--- sarcasm.