Torn triceps and torn lat !

[Hosehead]

So I had left elbow surgery yesterday to remove my bursa and while the surgeon was in there he discovered a torn distal tricep tendon. I did it performing heavy one arm db extensions about 3 months ago. When I initially saw him regarding the removal of the bursa he said i did not have a torn tricep based on a few pushing exercises and the fact that I had full ROM and little pain. Turns out he was wrong! I was stoned in the recovery room and didnt remember to ask him anything regarding rehab times . I also might have a torn right lat or a pinched nerve that is causing the lat to not flare . Strangely enough there is no pain or loss of function with the lat ! I have full strength except that i have difficulty lifting my right arm above my shoulder . Anyone have either of these injuries ? I'm getting chiropractic and ART for the lat issue but nothing for the tricep until I get the cast off next week. I am running 2iu GH and 20 IU IGF 1L3 currently. Gonna start swimming in a few weeks. If I didnt have a beautiful little 16 month old I'd take permanent swim.

[Praetorian]

You may want to get ultrasound or mri to check out the lat just to be sure. Did he fix the triceps?

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[Hosehead]

yeah he did repair it. the post op report said the tear was a depth tear as opposed to a horizontal tear.

[Praetorian]

That should be a fairly quick rehab.

P

[Hosehead]

That should be a fairly quick rehab.

P

Think so ? He said it would likely be four months before it felt strong and I have no idea what strong means to him.The post op report also says that he shaved off bone spurs and trimmed some scar tissue out. So he did four things instead of the one the one thing he knew he'd do (bursectomy). What makes you think it should be a fairly quick rehab ? I am an eternal pessimist but am hoping that I can be back to 100% strength and function by May at the latest. I plan on running the GH for six months or more with the IGF . Should I take a break from the IGF or run it non stop ? Should I run any AAS once I start lifting again or is it pointless ? I dont want to get ahead of the strengthening of the tendon. Also , he said that the bursa will regenerate itself - will upping the GH do anything in that regard or keep it at 2IU ? Thanks Prae .

Edit - I heal very quickly . Apparently people of Mediterranean backgrounds are known for this but the medical community has no idea why.

[Praetorian]

Most surgeons are overly cautious and tend to give extended recovery periods. My proximal biceps rupture was repaired June 5 and by September i was training again, lightly but none the less. The surgeon suggested it would take 6 months but at the moment I can say it feels fully healed. Not saying you should rush it but take it slow and dont get discouraged. IGF should be run 4 weeks on 4 weeks off for 3-4 cycles then a few months off. Kep the gh at 2iu more is not necessarily better. I would stay off aas for now as that may just make you want to push more and cause issues. Try adding a good joint formula Glucosamin 2000mg, Chondroitin 2000mg, and MSM 2000mg twice daily.

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[Primal]

So I had left elbow surgery yesterday to remove my bursa and while the surgeon was in there he discovered a torn distal tricep tendon. I did it performing heavy one arm db extensions about 3 months ago. When I initially saw him regarding the removal of the bursa he said i did not have a torn tricep based on a few pushing exercises and the fact that I had full ROM and little pain. Turns out he was wrong! I was stoned in the recovery room and didnt remember to ask him anything regarding rehab times . I also might have a torn right lat or a pinched nerve that is causing the lat to not flare . Strangely enough there is no pain or loss of function with the lat ! I have full strength except that i have difficulty lifting my right arm above my shoulder . Anyone have either of these injuries ? I'm getting chiropractic and ART for the lat issue but nothing for the tricep until I get the cast off next week. I am running 2iu GH and 20 IU IGF 1L3 currently. Gonna start swimming in a few weeks. If I didnt have a beautiful little 16 month old I'd take permanent swim.

Hey Hosehead, sorry to hear about the tricep but at least you got the spurrs off right? That should help with the pain hopefully! How you described your lat problem reminded me of a some stuff I learned about last year. It sorta sounds a bit like potential long thoracic nerve damage? The long thoracic nerve runs along the seratus and is very open to injury because of how long the nerve is and how close it rests to the skin. If you look it up, you'll see a lot of people with the winged scapula condition but I'm pretty sure you could tell if you had that. My anatomy prof actually injured it many years before and when she was teaching us she stopped and showed us her mobility of one of her arms. She physically could not get her arm past her shoulder level as well... just stopped dead there. Apparently there is no pain associated with it (for her at least) and mobility below the shoulder level is fine. If that nerve is pinched, maybe you could have decreased mobility in the flaring of your lats? Not saying it could be at all, but it does sound slightly familiar and it's something you could get just asked to get checked for easily I assume. Just my 2 cents... don't have to roll with it if you want.

Stay strong man! All the best for your recovery!

-Primal

[Hosehead]

Hey Hosehead, sorry to hear about the tricep but at least you got the spurrs off right? That should help with the pain hopefully! How you described your lat problem reminded me of a some stuff I learned about last year. It sorta sounds a bit like potential long thoracic nerve damage? The long thoracic nerve runs along the seratus and is very open to injury because of how long the nerve is and how close it rests to the skin. If you look it up, you'll see a lot of people with the winged scapula condition but I'm pretty sure you could tell if you had that. My anatomy prof actually injured it many years before and when she was teaching us she stopped and showed us her mobility of one of her arms. She physically could not get her arm past her shoulder level as well... just stopped dead there. Apparently there is no pain associated with it (for her at least) and mobility below the shoulder level is fine. If that nerve is pinched, maybe you could have decreased mobility in the flaring of your lats? Not saying it could be at all, but it does sound slightly familiar and it's something you could get just asked to get checked for easily I assume. Just my 2 cents... don't have to roll with it if you want.

Stay strong man! All the best for your recovery!

-Primal

I believe that is exactly what I have done !GOOD CALL !

[Primal]

Anything to help!

-Primal

[Hosehead]

Getting the cast off Friday. Going ****ing nuts. Losing size like crazy.