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    6th week. Huge disappointment this morning, 204.4lbs, so I GAINED 0.8lbs.

    No cheat meal last week, same diet as last week (keto), no cardio, but I had a very active week, I had many things to do, so I pretty much walked/moved a lot. Plus I bought a lot of bison and horse meat this week, so I ate those meats that are much leaner then beef.

    TBH I was feeling light, before I went on the scale I was sure I had lost 2-3lbs, I was feeling like it. I'm extremely disciplined and after 2 weeks of tight dieting I was feeling I deserve a nice cheat meal, but adding weight kills the possible enjoyment.

    I'm not sure what to do this week, I don't feel doing 3x20min of cardio will cut it. From past experience, I need a more drastic change to keep going, again I'm not sure what I need to do/will do.

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    If the body contain 4-5lbs of glycogen and water, it means that my real weight is around 208.4-209.4lbs, so from my starting weight (210.2lbs) it basically means I lost 1-2lbs of fat in 6 week! Way to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Eric View Post
    6th week. Huge disappointment this morning, 204.4lbs, so I GAINED 0.8lbs.

    No cheat meal last week, same diet as last week (keto), no cardio, but I had a very active week, I had many things to do, so I pretty much walked/moved a lot. Plus I bought a lot of bison and horse meat this week, so I ate those meats that are much leaner then beef.

    TBH I was feeling light, before I went on the scale I was sure I had lost 2-3lbs, I was feeling like it. I'm extremely disciplined and after 2 weeks of tight dieting I was feeling I deserve a nice cheat meal, but adding weight kills the possible enjoyment.

    I'm not sure what to do this week, I don't feel doing 3x20min of cardio will cut it. From past experience, I need a more drastic change to keep going, again I'm not sure what I need to do/will do.

    Eric
    Three times at 20 mins of cardio is great for the first week of dieting. You are into your 6th week which means if you gradually added cardio as necessary you should be doing approx 40-50min seven days per week.

    The body adapts to cardio very quickly...if you do not gradually add small increments you will stagnate as you have...nothing strange there.

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    Ok sounds good, since I did not do cardio for the last 2 weeks, going with 30 min everyday would be better then jump to 40-50min right away I guess ?

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    Start at 20 minutes each morning before breakfast seven days per week. See how that goes for a start.

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    Ok thanks Ted.

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    Hey, out of curiosity guys, if you weight yourself the morning after the re-feed meal, what kind of weight variation do you have from the day before ?

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    I'm asking because, I decided to go on the scale everyday this week to do like Steve proposed and today my weight was at 203.6lbs, so back to last week's score. It's the second time I weight myself the day after the re-feed meal and that I'm lighter then the previous day. Shouldn't it be the contrary ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Eric View Post
    I'm asking because, I decided to go on the scale everyday this week to do like Steve proposed and today my weight was at 203.6lbs, so back to last week's score. It's the second time I weight myself the day after the re-feed meal and that I'm lighter then the previous day. Shouldn't it be the contrary ?

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    When lean (as 6-7% in the last 3-4 weeks before a show lean) I can almost predict what my weight will be to the decimal just by the way I feel when I wake up, and perhaps what time it is (ie - if I am lucky to sleep an extra hour, that's 1 more pee, and another pound gone. I also know that the day after a cheat, no matter how big or small, I will be up 2-3 pounds only. Basically, at that point, my glycogen is gone and there is only so much carbs the muscle can store + water that goes along with it. The rest is just gone through with the rest of the pee. Even eating a whole 18inch pizza won't get the weight up 5-10 pounds.

    That said, If I have not been consistently eating sodium, or if for whatever reason I am dehydrated the day I cheat, then a bigger rebound can happen - that's where the 5-10 pounds can happen easily from 1 morning to the next.

    When less lean, ie, now (12-14% bf) I might be able to gain a hell of alot more than 2 pounds in a day. I rarely pee more than once a night, my glycogen is already full, so I technically could weigh more by the amount of the food I ate. How much does an 18 inch pizza weigh? yep, that's about how much more I'd weigh.


    Sounds to me your cheat meals are likely fairly light, just a little shift in macros for the day. I'd keep weighing your self every day. The stats guy in me says you need more data points. Yes, its a little odd, but there is always an explation. It's water weight and for some reason the cheat day isn't bringing in too much added water. It also could be that your scale isn't the greatest... If you weigh yourself 5 times in a row do you get the same weight? if you lean back, does it drop more? if you weigh yourself with and without clothes, does the scale 'remember' approx weight and just default to it (sounds crazy, but my old scale did this - I would have to get my wife to go on the scale so it forgot about me).

    It's much easier to weigh yourself everyday, take the median for the week and make that your target to drop by the next week.

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    In addition to that, it's fun when really lean how easy I can predict the kind of night I'll have. Some days I'd go to bed say 183 pounds, I knew I'd only be up twice to pee since I would wake up at 178. If I went to bed at 189 (for whatever reason, holding water, humid out, etc) I would know I'd be all night peeing, since the same 178 would happen no matter what I did.

    I think my wife is at that point now. Now I think I'll be able to predict her weight everyday, except when we have a crazy weekend with the kids and have to bring out the rings of heaven in attempt to fix everyone's mood! Good thing she's ahead of schedule


 
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