2013 ifbb olympia results

[blp]

I'll agree to most of this. Although I like the look of the bikini winner. 4 divisions for women, so there should be a spectrum. Melo would be good in figure so they got it right. However Nicole Wilkins would be good in physique so they got that wrong. Although, Nicole has flawless symmetry, so its hard to beat - If she toned it down just a little, I think she would be unbeatable in figure. The look she brought to the olympia could be penalized depending on the show. I prefer the look Erin stern has, or even Candice, although Candice has symmetry issues. With 4 divisions for women, I would like bikini to be truly a bikini division. Not necessarily abs, veins, and technically not even necessarily the need to work out heavy at all. Just a young pretty girl with absolutely flawless skin, fat in the right spots that barely moves. Which is pretty much what they chose. With that in mind, you'll never have 5 time bikini champs, because in 5 years they will be too old to sustain that look. Look for the ones turning pro this year to possibly be top 3 next year in most pro shows. And same every year after that. FIgure, a step up. Girl that has flawless skin, pretty, same as bikini, but now put them in the gym deadlifting, squatting and benching. No drugs. Physique, another step up. Pretty, gym as hard as a bodybuilder, but still sexy and feminine. No drugs that make your face too manly. Bodybuilding, anything goes - but trying to look like a woman at least a little.

On the guys side of things, Flex by a mile. he looks like a trophy. Always been a fan and don't know how he has ever lost in the past - especially to guys like english... Phil won by quite a bit, but his abs are weird, and I am not sure he will continue to win year after year. A new guy will emerge. Ramy would win if he got crazy lean. But the sport becomes a 'game' so to speak. Nicole wilkins I think won not because she was better than Erin, but she was better than herself of the past. People always talk about how soft they are, and then they show up in shape and no one stops talking about them. Just look at roeelly winklar - never showed up good until now and everyone keeps talking about him now. not because he looked good, bbut because he looked better than before. So who knows, maybe Ramy is playing the same game. Show up next year looking insane and then everyone talks about him.

Men's physique, what can I say. I don't know how they judge it yet. Normally I talk about how stage presence will determine the champs the more subjective the sport. So I guess Mark had the best stage presence?? Certainly the most unique stage presence, but I dunno... I thought the 2nd, 5th, and 6th place guys were better. Sadik too big if you ask me, at least in his back.

Many good point here ..

If erin will had won I wil had not go against either

Is melo natural mmmm it questionable

Eva andressa a brazilian model got a bikini maybe oversize legs

I always tend for over muscular nature in all category

Asking melo do a chem regimen of a figure tho

That seem out of..
I wil bet melo wil be all over th world while th new bikini olympia wil stay without attention

Lile dex without sponsorship 14 months after be mr olympia

I dont have judge eye talent.. but lana best physique in th world.. I dont think so..

Perfect media politic feature yes..

That why amateur bber should do so..too


Of course my tend toward th extreme but stil olympia a freak show

And freak show should be in all category

[Praetorian]

Ramy should have been top 6 easy...huge politics there.

Jay was given a gift at 6th...should have been much lower.

Iris was beaten by Alina and was a poor decision for FBB...but I think the IFBB plans to kill it completely so not sure it matters

If Ramy gets freaky lean hell own the O for a few years at least.

Phil was a good choice...very professional, polished, speaks well...looks awesome...crazy genetics!

Mens physique...Mark definitely was given a gift...not sure whats happening there...

Bikini...go figure!

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[blp]

Awesome

Lol

[steve_d]

Is melo natural mmmm it questionable

Asking melo do a chem regimen of a figure tho

That seem out of..
I wil bet melo wil be all over th world while th new bikini olympia wil stay without attention

Is she natural? Probably not, but really who cares. The way I see it is that the bikini winner should look natural. Whether or not they actually are is irrelevant. So, to me, Melo looks unatural. Perhaps she hasn't even taken creatine, but that doesn't really matter, since in my eyes, she doesn't look 'bikini'. She is definitely marketable, and like you say, she'll travel the world and have more fans, and do more seminars, etc. But that is a separate thing then winning or losing the Olympia. I would guess the most successful competitors in bikini, figure, and physique are those who don't need drugs to look good. Basically any girl can get the muscle mass of a figure pro with the right drugs. The problem is 99% of them will look like dudes, have horrible sides and no longer look like a figure competitor anyway. 95% of the top figure pros will not have an ounce of voice deepening, etc. However, even local amateur shows are just crawling with manly voices from girls trying to attain the level of muscularity the top girls have naturally or at least almost naturally. The truly successful ones are naturally blessed with the genetics for either holding fat right, having the right shape, symmetry etc. That said, there is no magic 'regimen' for a figure, bikini, or physique girl. Some are taking more than others, some are clean, and so on. The best ones in my mind look clean. Erin looks more natural than Nicole, that's why I'd have her win... and the bikini winner looks more natural than Melo which is why I agree with it. I like muscle too, don't get me wrong, but the slightest hint of masculinity is frowned upon by judges.

edit. by masculinity, I am referring to things commonly referred to as a bodybuilders physique... ie, dry, hard, muscular, etc.

I think part of the reason my Wife ended up winning this year was because the sport evolved to the point where you didn't need to look juiced up to win. Very subjective thing though. Personally I find Melo's glutes to look a whole lot like mine in the offseason.

edit. I am not saying she has a manly bum. I am saying she has a whole lot of round muscle in there. which might be more common to figure girls and is not necessarily what the judges are looking for in bikini.

I don't disagree with Dana winning though - if that is the look they want, then great. She is marketable, and she has more fans on facebook than probably all other olympia contestants COMBINED! She didn't need to win to have success in the future, she didn't even need a pro card to have success. People just love her. I personally just favor better balance especially in the legs. Her structure is a little less feminine than some of the others in the lower half.

Men's physique... If I had to write down the criteria, it would again be genetics completely. You have to somehow look huge, look like a photoshopped cover of a muscle magazine. Large chest, abs, good arm and calfs, flawless skin perfect face an bone structure. Somehow having ripped abs, but not to the point of striations. no real deep seperation or veins. Basically a good example would be someone the size of a light-heavy bodybuilder, who was 3-4 weeks out, who didn't pump up, carb up, and came in extremely flat (ie no veins, no pump, no stomach distention). Or something like that.

[blp]

I found dayana cadeau , denise masino n larrisa reis

icon of sex

I dont see any masculine in them

It belong to taste n fetish i guess

drugs are more establish then you presume

you sound like idfa ufe federation

which are great

but one left need fluctuations of freaks

ifbb portray your mindset in this evolution

i dont see why freak should belong only to men category

but again my intent is rebel n anti commercial


So i cant deny that your right

[fitbody]

Is she natural? Probably not, but really who cares. The way I see it is that the bikini winner should look natural. Whether or not they actually are is irrelevant. So, to me, Melo looks unatural. Perhaps she hasn't even taken creatine, but that doesn't really matter, since in my eyes, she doesn't look 'bikini'. She is definitely marketable, and like you say, she'll travel the world and have more fans, and do more seminars, etc. But that is a separate thing then winning or losing the Olympia. I would guess the most successful competitors in bikini, figure, and physique are those who don't need drugs to look good. Basically any girl can get the muscle mass of a figure pro with the right drugs. The problem is 99% of them will look like dudes, have horrible sides and no longer look like a figure competitor anyway. 95% of the top figure pros will not have an ounce of voice deepening, etc. However, even local amateur shows are just crawling with manly voices from girls trying to attain the level of muscularity the top girls have naturally or at least almost naturally. The truly successful ones are naturally blessed with the genetics for either holding fat right, having the right shape, symmetry etc. That said, there is no magic 'regimen' for a figure, bikini, or physique girl. Some are taking more than others, some are clean, and so on. The best ones in my mind look clean. Erin looks more natural than Nicole, that's why I'd have her win... and the bikini winner looks more natural than Melo which is why I agree with it. I like muscle too, don't get me wrong, but I don't like the slightest hint of masculinity. I think part of the reason my Wife ended up winning this year was because the sport evolved to the point where you didn't need to look juiced up to win. Very subjective thing though. Personally I find Melo's glutes to look a whole lot like mine in the offseason. I'd rather be looking at a more feminine ass.


I don't disagree with Dana winning though - if that is the look they want, then great. She is marketable, and she has more fans on facebook than probably all other olympia contestants COMBINED! She didn't need to win to have success in the future, she didn't even need a pro card to have success. People just love her. I personally just favor better balance especially in the legs. Her structure is a little less feminine than some of the others in the lower half.

Men's physique... If I had to write down the criteria, it would again be genetics completely. You have to somehow look huge, look like a photoshopped cover of a muscle magazine. Large chest, abs, good arm and calfs, flawless skin perfect face an bone structure. Somehow having ripped abs, but not to the point of striations. no real deep seperation or veins. Basically a good example would be someone the size of a light-heavy bodybuilder, who was 3-4 weeks out, who didn't pump up, carb up, and came in extremely flat (ie no veins, no pump, no stomach distention). Or something like that.

OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS ???????????
the bikini winner should look natural ?? why???
and then you say even if she isn't ?????? hahahaha that seems ridiculous and hilarious and the same time not to mention CONFUSING
i guess that goes for natural lookin breasts as well ???? lol

then you say Melo looks UNATURAL.... really ? why ? cuz she's totally hot and BANGIN'
you are probably one of those people who loves sports figures
and think they should be all natural but want them to do unnatural things
and then throw stones at them when they fail a drug test and get found out

and THIS !!!!!!!!!! COMMENT BY YOU...."Personally I find Melo's glutes to look a whole lot like mine in the offseason. I'd rather be looking at a more feminine ass."
I FIND HORRIFYING AND ok i'm speechless to find the words to articulate what i'm thinking
actually my husband just said it while i was typing it 'I don't think i've ever heard anything like that before"
fighting hard right now not to say what's really on my mind but knowing you are a moderator i know it will just get deleted
as will probably this whole post anyway


i'm not wasting any more of my time on this as i could go on and on
but again whats the point when i'm sure it's gonna be deleted anyway

[fitbody]

I found dayana cadeau , denise masino n larrisa reis

icon of sex

I dont see any masculine in them

It belong to taste n fetish i guess

drugs are more establish then you presume

you sound like idfa ufe federation

which are great

but one left need fluctuations of freaks

ifbb portray your mindset in this evolution

i dont see why freak should belong only to men category

but again my intent is rebel n anti commercial


So i cant deny that your right

ALL I CAN SAY IS...
THANK GOD FOR BLP

geezus christus SOMEONE WITH AN OPEN MIND
SOMEONE WHO ALLOWS & RESPECTS EACH TO EXPRESS THEIR INDIVIDUALITY IN WHATEVER WAY THEY CHOOSE
really what this all comes down to
is allowing those to CREATE & BE THE PERSON THEY WANT TO BE
and those who judge and criticize well that just shows what type of people they are

what is Natural anyway
in this fake world of pills and potions, plastic surgery, dying of hair, makeup, spray tan this and that
come on

and those who say THIS IS MASCULINE
and this is FEMININE
come on really ????
cuz you have more muscle thatz MASCULINE ????
whatever.....
and the same guy who says that is shaving his legs and gettin his eyebrows shaped lmao wearing a bikini onstage
hahahahahhahahahhaha
OK

live and let live
judge not lest ye be judged
be who you are, and say what you feel...
cuz those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind !!!!!

[fitbody]

here you go Mr.Moderator... steve_d
here's a butt shot of Natalia Melo at the Olympia
and you please post up your offseason butt shot so we can compare how close your butt is to Natalia's ?
cuz thatz one hell of a claim you made
and don't forget to spread your legs and arch your back and the high heels will be a nice touch too

[TT Eric]

I agree with you Dawn I think she look amazing also, but I also think that Steve is untitled to his own opinion, I don't think you should take it personal and bring this on FB and steer sh!t. You are both respectable person.

Eric

[steve_d]

OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS ???????????
the bikini winner should look natural ?? why???
and then you say even if she isn't ?????? hahahaha that seems ridiculous and hilarious and the same time not to mention CONFUSING
i guess that goes for natural lookin breasts as well ???? lol

then you say Melo looks UNATURAL.... really ? why ? cuz she's totally hot and BANGIN'
you are probably one of those people who loves sports figures
and think they should be all natural but want them to do unnatural things
and then throw stones at them when they fail a drug test and get found out

and THIS !!!!!!!!!! COMMENT BY YOU...."Personally I find Melo's glutes to look a whole lot like mine in the offseason. I'd rather be looking at a more feminine ass."
I FIND HORRIFYING AND ok i'm speechless to find the words to articulate what i'm thinking
actually my husband just said it while i was typing it 'I don't think i've ever heard anything like that before"
fighting hard right now not to say what's really on my mind but knowing you are a moderator i know it will just get deleted
as will probably this whole post anyway


i'm not wasting any more of my time on this as i could go on and on
but again whats the point when i'm sure it's gonna be deleted anyway

This isn't going to be taken down. My wife looks more 'unatural' than Nathalia as well, in the sense of having larger muscles and whatnot. And I love the way she looks. I don't think Nathalia isn't 'sexy' or whatever either. You have perhaps taken strong offense to my post for the wrong reason. All my comments were making were as a judge of the sport, justifying the reason why they chose someone else over her to win. So obviously someone agrees with me. I also said nathalia could do well in figure. And let's get real here before you continue taking offense and attacking me both here and on facebook... I saw your post there as well. I actually prefer the look of figure to bikini in terms of attractiveness. But does that mean I think nicole wilkins is better than amanda latona at bikini? no... If nicole wilkins competed in bikini, i would say similar things as well... I would tell people, the reason nicole lost bikini is because she was too masculine for bikini. SO perhaps the wording is what is being taken offense too. She's not manly, she's just not as soft as the winner. And personally, the softness is what is the preferred look in bikini. And the muscle density that Nathalia has (while sexy) is too much for bikini. I love her look. as a person, or as a fitness model. I favor a softer look in BIKINI,.

Also.. to clarify what I meant about looking natural. That means, someone who likely doesn't need anabolics to get to that size or what have you. There are anomalies to everything, and the best in the world obviously have predispositions for muscle growth etc. I don't want to make this about whether someone is natural or not either. I wouldn't be shocked if she was natural in the sense of not taking anabolics, but let's get real, i wouldn't be shocked if she was either. HOWEVER, the winner on the other hand... if someone said she was taking even something as mild as anavar, I would be shocked. There is NO hint of anabolics at all. She just looks generally like a soft girl who doesn't have veins in abs, etc. Again, no taking offense to this. I am a judge as well, and I am not talking about how I view girls 'sexually' here. I am talking about how I would judge them. Judging a bikini class, I would be more inclined to knock down veins in stomach and muscle mass that would fit well in figure. There HAS to be a distinguishing factor here. And if I feel someone (ex. Nathalia) could hold her own in figure, I would mark her down.

Dawn. Your comment about who I am as a person I take offense to. If you even have a clue who I am, you would know you're wrong. throw stones at people who fail drug tests? Really? I won't even bother with pointing out how silly that comment actually is.

I will apologize for one thing only. I said 'I don't like the slightest hint of masculinity'.... what I should have said was 'too hard looking should be knocked down on a bikini competitor.'