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    Default short cycle critique

    I have done 3-4 12 week cycles and the biggest "side" issue for me with cycles comes afterward: the depression, lack of motivation, no sex drive etc. for months afterwards (I do proper PCT). I have been reading about short cycles, so here's my plan:

    Wk 1-3: 100 mg test-prop ED
    Wk 1-3: 50 mg Winstrol ED
    Wk 1-3: 25mg Aromasin ED
    Wk 4-6: 40/20/20mg Novaldex ED
    Wk 7-9: nothing
    Repeat all year

    Objective: consistent lean gains throughout the year with minimal sides.

    (I'm 32, 210, 5'11, 17%)

    Any comments?

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    I never really felt much or got good gains in the first 3 weeks. My best cycles were anything over 15 weeks. But I hear you on coming off. It was always a drag. If you go through with it, let us know how it went.

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    No point in running that short of a cycle like MP said, you'll hardly see anything in terms of gains let alone keeping them. Do 8 weeks instead. Also uf bf is kinda high, cut down to 8-10% and than start a lean gain cycle if possible.

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    Where is your proper PCT? I dont see it..please post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
    Where is your proper PCT? I dont see it..please post.
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    It has been almost 2 years since my last cycle, which was test, deca. PCT was clomid 200 day one, then 100 for 1 week then 50 for 2 weeks.
    This time I'm going to use nolva instead.

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    best result i had was with a 20 weeks cycle that i did only once as i usually did 10 to 14 weeks cycles.The longer the cycle the worst it is coming off at least for me.

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    I agree with the other posters, your cycle seems too short to be of much use. Short esters or not, you won't see any noticeable gains until at least 4 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenT View Post
    It has been almost 2 years since my last cycle, which was test, deca. PCT was clomid 200 day one, then 100 for 1 week then 50 for 2 weeks.
    This time I'm going to use nolva instead.

    I would suggest proper PCT. Clomid and nolva act slightly differently but work better together not by themselves. Also for proper and quicker recovery HCG as well as an AI should be used. With regards to short cycles....muscle takes time to build...you cant rush it...thats why short cycle dont produce great results.
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    Thanks for the advice Praetorian... I can run both comid and nolva. What I was thinking about short cycles is exactly that - taking time and not rushing it, so by running several short cycles throughout the year I could do the equivalent of one 20 week cycle split up into smaller cycles thus avoiding the effects of long term shut down. Is there any merit to this? Our are the proponents of short cycles just talking out their asses?

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    I would consider a short cycle 10 weeks...that would still be sufficient to build significant muscle and yet not slow recovery too much.
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