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[TT Eric]

In fact, I take 3 shakes with milk, one is with whey Isolate and fibers though, no eggs! So I get 72g of carbs from milk per day and I usually go for another 50g PWO. So with the ones in vegetables and a from condiments/sauces, I'm around 150g/day.

+ Lots of fats and proteins and I feel great with that, never hungry, always good energy levels, weight is going up slowly. I might have less pump compare to when I use to take more carbs pre-workout.

I know that some trainers recommend to natty bbers to take their 50g carbs pre-workout instead of PWO for a better pump and for not blunting the GH PWO. Not sure yet if it's worth it, since the insulin PWO is also anabolic and shuttle a lot of nutrients to the muscles. I might test it for a while and see.

Eric

[scottlove]

[QUOTE=TT Eric;441823]In fact, I take 3 shakes with milk, one is with whey Isolate and fibers though, no eggs! So I get 72g of carbs from milk per day and I usually go for another 50g PWO. So with the ones in vegetables and a from condiments/sauces, I'm around 150g/day.

+ Lots of fats and proteins and I feel great with that, never hungry, always good energy levels, weight is going up slowly. I might have less pump compare to when I use to take more carbs pre-workout.

I know that some trainers recommend to natty bbers to take their 50g carbs pre-workout instead of PWO for a better pump and for not blunting the GH PWO. Not sure yet if it's worth it, since the insulin PWO is also anabolic and shuttle a lot of nutrients to the muscles. I might test it for a while and see.

Eric[/QUOTE] Do you manage to stay fairly lean drinking that much milk? I cut out milk in December and lost almost 10 lbs, (which I'm o.k. with). Most people think I've gained because I'm alot more vascular through the shoulders and chest. I was drinking about 1 1/2 liters/ day of 2% but I really don't miss it now. In fact, when I take a small drink of milk now the taste doesn't really appeal to me anymore, but I will admit, the protein drinks tasted much better mixed with milk rather than water.