You're asking some great questions Wildo and this is the only way to learn when you first start out......just remember the only stupid question is the one that goes unasked.
You're asking some great questions Wildo and this is the only way to learn when you first start out......just remember the only stupid question is the one that goes unasked.
Update:
Well I bumped my diet +25p +30c +8f
I can feel the extra carbs providing more energy than before. Especially at the 40min mark in my work outs. Muscle feels full of energy, and not aching on the last reps.
Body starting to plump up. lost 6 pack, 4 pack visible. will keep it between 2-4 pack.
Sorry but you missed an important point, it should be 40-50p, not 25p. And if you are gaining fat, I would cut the carbs.
And 25p + 30c + 8f X6 = 1752 cal per day, how can you plump up with that ??
Are you calculating everything ? Most people don't realize that they are getting lots of cal via things they don't calculate like condiments (ketchup, mayo, relish...).
Eric
Last edited by TT Eric; 27-08-2012 at 01:31 PM.
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Hi Eric,
Like I said, I calculate each food item as ONE micro nutrient.
I.E. 1/3 cup oatmeal. I only calculate the Carbs out of that. (0p/20c/0f) I don't count protein or fats from it........... but in reality its (5p/20c/2f).
I.E. 1tbs nutty pb. (0p/0c/8f) but in reality its (3p/3c/8f).
This is basically my original question. Do you guys count based on TOTAL nutritional value, OR its primary nutritional value.
IF its the total nutritonal value then again im around 2400 calories a day.
IF its the primary nutritional value then itll be 1700 calories a day.
You need to count everything , Protein , Carbs , Fats from all foods. Count your total calories as well. All are important. The more info you keep track of the better.
Yes I/we calculate everything!
Eric
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Okay I'm on track again thx.
Steve already told me on his earlier post, but I just wanted confirmation from more people..
i'll work out my macros and post it here in a couple of days.
Yes, good to get on track - its important to know exactly what you're eating and not just 'guessing'.
Treating as a main 'nutrient macro' will obviously bias towards any food item that is not strictly 100% carbs, protein, or fat... Sure, if all you ate was tuna, licorice, and crisco, you'd probably be pretty bang on. But the reality is most foods have a good amount of all macros. Perhaps you were just making things more complicated than they should have been. On the other hand, if you're bulking and not concerned about extra fat gains, then not counting the protein in peanut butter and making sure you get x amount from things like chicken, eggs, etc, is going to at least make sure you get 'at least' a certain amount. The rest being just excess. Obviously better to be as exact as possible though. You're body doesn't just ignore carbs from peanut butter, so why would you!
Hello again!
Okay so i tallied up my Macros.
2350calories
200p/240c/65f
*Included carbs from fruits. about 90 carbs total. Should i not include these?
*NOT include carbs from veggies
Thanks
Yes everything, but fibers doesn't count as carbs.
Eric
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"If success makes you arrogant, you haven’t really succeeded. If failure makes you determined, you haven’t really failed...''
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