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    I dont have the money to afford egg whites, and I have been trying to get off overly processed and or pasteurized foods for a while so Im just gonna stick with whole eggs for now. Maybe I will drop it to 5 whole eggs in the morning. 6 is a lot to chew anyway.

    I dont agree that almond butter is better than MCT's, but the rest of your feedback is good and I will keep it in mind.

    Part of the problem is that I am often just eating these meals cold as I am weaned off microwaves all together. Its hard to choke down meat and veggies covered in olive oil cold. Its gross, and I just wont stick to doing it for long. I love eating almond butter just off a spoon and I know that two big heaping spoons gives me almost exactly 30g fat. ive measured it several times.

    If I eat the almond butter with the meal, why does it matter that I use olive oil instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by #8 View Post
    what is a good site to get the macro breakdown on these food items? I have looked before and only found overly complicated rage worthy sites that take forever to use.

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    You can buy liquid egg whites at Costco dirt cheap...cheaper then whole eggs. MCT's are used in the body as a preferential fuel source only...if you are going to use fats as an energy source they might as well serve a function in the body. MCT's are great when trying to gain weight in place are carbohydrate. If you are having veggies in the meal (carbs) then a healthy oil is preferred as it does not contain trace carbs. It is easy to let carb intake go over the 50g mark if you arent careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praetorian View Post
    You can buy liquid egg whites at Costco dirt cheap...cheaper then whole eggs. MCT's are used in the body as a preferential fuel source only...if you are going to use fats as an energy source they might as well serve a function in the body. MCT's are great when trying to gain weight in place are carbohydrate. If you are having veggies in the meal (carbs) then a healthy oil is preferred as it does not contain trace carbs. It is easy to let carb intake go over the 50g mark if you arent careful.
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    Just wondering about MCT again, when on keto, my energy levels are very good I would say all day long except when I train, after a few sets I really feel I have no energy to push (plus the loss of strength too), even with shortened training session, I really feel 'empty' and no drive.

    Would it be good in that case to take a bit of MCT (like a tbsp an hour prior training) on training day only just to give a little boost to go through the training ? Maybe it would preserve some muscle to be used for gluconeogenesis ?

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    I find if you take your first shake in the day with MCT's you will have energy for most of the day. I also use 1-2 caffeine pills a day, or a coffee. The MCT's are in my opinion the most underrated and useful supplement I have ever used. For dieting they are almost like magic to my body. Quite cheap as well compared to many other "fat burning" supps out there.
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    That's what I thought first, but Prae's answer make me doubt it could slow down fat loss too much.

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    It has done nothing but speed up fat loss for me while boosting energy and preserving lean mass. I have a hard time believing it slows down fat loss, even if it does, id rather lose a bit slower and retain most of my hard work. I dont know anyone who has used my dosing protocol and seen anything short of excellent results.
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    You go for 1 tbsp each morning ? And you train at what time of the day ?

    Me I was going for 1 tbsp each morning and on training day I was taking one more 1 an hour before training.

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    MCT's will be used as preferential fuel prior to bodyfat...that doesnt mean you wont burn body...just not prior to the MCT. Also there are many more variables involved than just the use of MCT. It also depends on where you are in your diet...to get to very low bod fat levels for some...ingested fats need to be removed for a certain period...including MCT's.

    MCT's have been around for a very long time in regards to BB diets...John Parillo popularized them in the early 90's and I experimented with them at the time. So did many BB including pros...however they tend to go in and out of vogue like many things in BB. Many times clients were stuck or stalled because of lack of fat in the diet...adding MCT will improve things but not just because they are MCTs.
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    I skipped a few posts in here but I personally take a different route... first, it is hard to judge without your stats, pics etc. Supplements: I don't think I would consider dieting without BCAAS, Glutamine, and a multivitamin. I find Keto is a pretty safe route for dieters that may have food allergies and that may react to different foods etc, but I personally wouldn't diet this way again ever.... maybe the last few weeks before a show, but if you're looking just to lose body fat, maintain mass as you said, I would completely re edit this diet. Its easier to eat a healthy balanced diet high in protein, moderate in good low glycemic, (high glycemic carbs PWO), high fiber, and moderate good fat intake and only eat fibrous carbs in your later meals.


 
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