Tony Searle

[natenator]

With exception of his past two shows, Tony was notorious for blowing his conditioning and it was based on those assessments as to why people (including me) were critical of him and for good reason. No one ever doubted his potential, although one could argue at like 5'5-5'6 his potential is limited but his potential is tremendous. All we wanted to see was some conditioning consistency from the guy and we've had that in the past two shows so hopefully he can keep it going.

Martin allard and tony searle were head and shoulders above the rest at nationals. The Arnolds r the best in the world and he did more then hold his own many could make a arguement that he could of won class. With an exception to the poor colour at prejuding which was fixed for the night show the kid had amazing proportions size density and conditioning. He just comes in harder and drier every show. I can easily see him walking away with a class win this year and quite possibly and overall title with that kind of physique. I remember reading on this forum before nationals last year that the kid was going to get smoked get a huge eye opener came 2nd in canada same thing about the arnolds kid came 5th in the WORLD. Discredit his sucesses and blow up his failures but i think once again tony will be having alot of people take back some things they have said about him.

[varking]

Steve how can you tell someone to plan on winning in 2013.... When most people step on stage they plan of winning if they don't they should just stay home!! If you aren't going there too win then stay home lol Either way Tony has a great chance to win. But lets all be fair Tony is top 4 bodybuilders (Not pro) in Canada!
When a guy at his level can sit down with anyone and say what his week points are (Chest) and what his best points are (Back) then they can go along way.
They call tony the "Batman" because he has a pro back!
Till the day Tony stop getting bigger and in better conditionfrom his last show I wont stop talking about him. Tony should and will be the talk in Canadian bodybuilding for now and along time to come. Look at this thread! Most post for a Canadian bodybuilder for a reason.
Also follow this guy on Facebook post some cool stuff http://www.facebook.com/tonysearle8

[Hosehead]

Aaron Baker, aka Batman, had a pro back. If Tony turns pro, and I think and hope he will, he will have a "pro" back.

[steve_d]

Steve how can you tell someone to plan on winning in 2013.... When most people step on stage they plan of winning if they don't they should just stay home!! If you aren't going there too win then stay home lol Either way Tony has a great chance to win. But lets all be fair Tony is top 4 bodybuilders (Not pro) in Canada!
When a guy at his level can sit down with anyone and say what his week points are (Chest) and what his best points are (Back) then they can go along way.
They call tony the "Batman" because he has a pro back!
Till the day Tony stop getting bigger and in better conditionfrom his last show I wont stop talking about him. Tony should and will be the talk in Canadian bodybuilding for now and along time to come. Look at this thread! Most post for a Canadian bodybuilder for a reason.
Also follow this guy on Facebook post some cool stuff http://www.facebook.com/tonysearle8

all i meant is the guy needs to take some time off. I always say that (especially for young guys) you need to focus on training and not staying in contest prep mode all the time. I believe he's competed in 3 shows in under a year now dating back from ontario provincials in 2011. That left him with basically no off season. and then if he plans on doing nationals this year - that means what 20 weeks until show time? I truly feel he would benefit from waiting until 2013 to compete again. I don't think that is bad advice.

But I will add to that my 2 cents from something else that stuck out in this last post... when people plan on stepping on stage, they don't always think that winning is the only important thing, right? I don't believe this is true, and if it is that is the mistake that people have. there can only be 1 winner, and most shows, there is realistically only a few who have the honest expectation of winning. We compete to improve our physiques. If that occurs, its a win. Tony has a good chance to win considering he placed 2nd last go and the winner is now pro. Sure, but winning isn't everything. You have to plan ahead. Winning light heavy doesn't mean he wins a pro card. If I were in tony's shoes, I'd wait until I feel as though I will win the overall. I truly think that is NOT a possibility this year - especially for the points I mentioned. I've said my thoughts, many will agree, perhaps many won't.

[natenator]

Def agree and anyone who actually understands this sport and knows what frequent competing takes out of you will also understand.

all i meant is the guy needs to take some time off. I always say that (especially for young guys) you need to focus on training and not staying in contest prep mode all the time. I believe he's competed in 3 shows in under a year now dating back from ontario provincials in 2011. That left him with basically no off season. and then if he plans on doing nationals this year - that means what 20 weeks until show time? I truly feel he would benefit from waiting until 2013 to compete again. I don't think that is bad advice.

But I will add to that my 2 cents from something else that stuck out in this last post... when people plan on stepping on stage, they don't always think that winning is the only important thing, right? I don't believe this is true, and if it is that is the mistake that people have. there can only be 1 winner, and most shows, there is realistically only a few who have the honest expectation of winning. We compete to improve our physiques. If that occurs, its a win. Tony has a good chance to win considering he placed 2nd last go and the winner is now pro. Sure, but winning isn't everything. You have to plan ahead. Winning light heavy doesn't mean he wins a pro card. If I were in tony's shoes, I'd wait until I feel as though I will win the overall. I truly think that is NOT a possibility this year - especially for the points I mentioned. I've said my thoughts, many will agree, perhaps many won't.

[freaky abs]

Tony stands a good chance of winning the light-heavy weight class this year, but he is not going to win the overall. He does not have the best physique at the Canadian National stage right now. Antoine Vaillant, Zane Watson, Jerome Bravo and Alex Raymond are bigger threats to winning the Canadian overall title.

[Hosehead]

Tony stands a good chance of winning the light-heavy weight class this year, but he is not going to win the overall. He does not have the best physique at the Canadian National stage right now. Antoine Vaillant, Zane Watson, Jerome Bravo and Alex Raymond are bigger threats to winning the Canadian overall title.

Vaillant would be beaten by Tony if Tony came in as well conditioned. Vaillant has a great build but a very poor chest. I checked out his website and although he lists his measurements he curiously leaves out his chest measurement N/A. IMO only his arms are superior to Tony's. I may be wrong but put them side by side and Searle wins.

[freaky abs]

Vaillant would be beaten by Tony if Tony came in as well conditioned. Vaillant has a great build but a very poor chest. I checked out his website and although he lists his measurements he curiously leaves out his chest measurement N/A. IMO only his arms are superior to Tony's. I may be wrong but put them side by side and Searle wins.

Tony cannot compete against the Heavyweights. Last time he competed as a Heavyweight at the 2011 OPA Ontario Championships, he came in 7th. He had to drop down the Light-heavy weight to be competive, because he gets blown away when he competes in the heavyweight class. So I do not know how he is going to beat the heavyweights for the overall, when he cannot beat them competing as a heavyweight.

[steve_d]

Tony cannot compete against the Heavyweights. Last time he competed as a Heavyweight at the 2011 OPA Ontario Championships, he came in 7th. He had to drop down the Light-heavy weight to be competive, because he gets blown away when he competes in the hevyweight class. So I do not know how he is going to beat the hevyweights for the overall, when he cannot beat them competing as a heavyweight.

I can't help but jump in again here...In tonys defence, he gets blown away as a heavy because he is fat when he is a heavy. Doesn't mean he can't compete against them when he is a ripped light heavy. A ripped light heavy with good proportions can always hold their own against heavy and superheavys. That said, Tony isn't one of them yet! In condition, he is what I think would still be a middle by the old cut-offs. I really don't understand the world's fascination with Tony. He's good, and potentially going to be great. But I think too many people are talking about him like he's the next big thing in Canada. Where is the love for the other canadians!? Just like you mentioned Freaky Abs, I agree with all your picks: Antoine Vaillant, Zane Watson, Jerome Bravo and Alex Raymond ... And there are others! Matt Tsinkorang is another that comes to mind. Ron Partlow, and there will always be some more up and comers - John Aeillo with some added maturity and leaness. Matthew Roberts was another from Ontario who really has a pleasing physique... Countless competitors.

I guess Tony is just marketable and does a good job at marketing. Nothing wrong with that though - but I like to keep things in perspective. Marketability can only get you so far. The judges *should* not care when it comes down to scoring the champion about who is most marketable.

[natenator]

It's not Tony creating the hype. Its the nuthuggers who are and unfortunately he gets saddled with their nonsense.

I can't help but jump in again here...In tonys defence, he gets blown away as a heavy because he is fat when he is a heavy. Doesn't mean he can't compete against them when he is a ripped light heavy. A ripped light heavy with good proportions can always hold their own against heavy and superheavys. That said, Tony isn't one of them yet! In condition, he is what I think would still be a middle by the old cut-offs. I really don't understand the world's fascination with Tony. He's good, and potentially going to be great. But I think too many people are talking about him like he's the next big thing in Canada. Where is the love for the other canadians!? Just like you mentioned Freaky Abs, I agree with all your picks: Antoine Vaillant, Zane Watson, Jerome Bravo and Alex Raymond ... And there are others! Matt Tsinkorang is another that comes to mind. Ron Partlow, and there will always be some more up and comers - John Aeillo with some added maturity and leaness. Matthew Roberts was another from Ontario who really has a pleasing physique... Countless competitors.

I guess Tony is just marketable and does a good job at marketing. Nothing wrong with that though - but I like to keep things in perspective. Marketability can only get you so far. The judges *should* not care when it comes down to scoring the champion about who is most marketable.