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    Besides sterile water, what's in it? Is it carrageenan?

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    Those who wish to know more about this, good place to start is here and follow the links
    http://patrickarnoldblog.com/water-b...ct-being-sold/

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    yes it's lambda carrageenan.

    I know one of the top IFBB pro's uses it like it's going out of style. I wont say who though. But you'd be amazed, I know I was.
    Truenutrition.com ---> where all top athletes/bodybuilders get their supplements (no customs/duty tax fee's at all)
    5% discount code for Canadians---> CANADABB

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    P Arnold had this in his MD article, I'm sure you'll hear more about it in the near future. Are the growth gains permanent like with synthol?

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    h frenglish blp , controversial advice for steroid begginers
    hpta will become off , doesnt matters 100 or 1000mg , th recovery is same , if you crash at 250mg on pct you will crash with a 1000 anw, if you crash at 250mg that mean steroid are not for you , any serious bbers in heavy weight or in super H', take th non stop route fairly soon , body will always recover , apl/hcg or not , til your alive it' will recover , hcg help , levrone still look heathly

    250mg per cc of enan , not a full esther,, it's not water base , active esther of enanthate around 220mg , then again thinking th ugl raw personal distributor honest , you think you fully absord 220mg ? body doesnt absord all food or medication ,, same for steroid ,,, your 250mg become 200mg , your 1000mg become 800mg ,

    250mg create same damage has a 1000mg , liver is a beauty it' always regenerate , look charlie sheen still alive , downregulation with happen due to higher myostatin after 8 weeks , that why im a advocate of th 8 weeks cycle for beginners or intermediate, th only way after 8 week to keep result on mass,, it's adding tren ,, if do dht , hepatoxic tren dht,,, while th hell you want to stop at that point ,, mind as well be on year basis , because tren mean mega crash ,,, and you all know it LOL

    or after 8 weeks , another way to fight myostatin by adding slin or gh to keep goin longer cycle , if your ready to spend few thousand dollars on gh n play with insulin , 1000mg is nothing ,, then again th idea is for beginners , serious beginners, this will be moderate

    8 weeks on - short time off 2-3 weeks - several times .. 2-3 ,,,

    1000mg 8 weeks - adaptation not many thing do occur / 2 weeks off / 1000mg 8 weeks long esther slowly kick in / 2 weeks off again /
    third cycle of 1000mg boom !!!!! steroid !!!! finally!!! , gain 20 pounds , **** like animal , train 2 hours in sweat guy know what steroid fell like and THE MOST IMPORTANT THINK EVER YOU LOOK LIKE SOMEONE WHO TAKE STEROID !!! who ever did few years steroid remember the real punch kick, th first one ever ,, ,, it's always near 7 months

    stop 4 month , pct for 2 months to recover infertility and full natural hpta system since you aim family ,,

    for those doing/planning useless only oral cycle to get in th future mood of trying steroid and loosing everything afterword , like 95% of lost gain..
    it's imbecile , we dont want good looking abs for summer , we want future monster with obvious steroid result ,,

    they destroy asl/ast with nitric oxyde , annihilate adrenal gland with ephedrine and barfing up protein shake at gym hidden in toilet since adding anavar cycle affect ph and make stomach acidic. all this to stay im "natural" and did not inject th demon testotesrone,,

    palumbo dont do oral palumbo stll look healthy and he was 300 pounds

    1000mg bring decent result , satisfying result , i try 500-750mg on gym partner ,, nah ,, not really ,,, ppls who answer well at 500mg , they have great genetic ,, why not do 1000mg then they will explode even more ,, most ppls are scare of a 1000mg when pro do 3000mg

    finally on conclusion, anyone who touch steroid eventually will do a 1000mg cycle anw ,, why wait ? be ****ing huge while you can recover ,,, at least 25 years old ,, train natural til your 25.

    if you do start before by choice it' could compromise th hpta for life , and might be on hrt for life ,, make damn sure th 4 month off law ,, or you can be royally ****ed ,,

    for th young i dont give a **** about life n future ,, " frozen your cum "

    im 36 i got a year and half to go,, i be done ,, steroid experience always a short pan career , not many can take steroid for 10 years + ,, a 7 months program wont kill you , im still alive , horny n shooting blank zero sperm count

    this is th most common story ; ",, guy get a steroid cycle ,, first cycle ,, fell nothing ,,, ahh that ugl is crap blablabla ,,, he' seriously convinced he' got screw and start a new one shortly after ,, after few weeks he' fell something but still not fully satisfy ,, ok damn it ,,, he' increase th dose go ahead on a third cycle ,, then boom ,,, always sweaty , body heat ,,, muscle exploding evry day ,, shave more often ,, ready to **** anyone , anytime , lots of psychological change,,, often beneficial ,, he' swear that ugl is the best shit ever,,, now happy he' stop !!!!! "

    th 8 x 3 with 2 weeks off has been made n re done by so many ,, unconsciously !!!!!

    stop cycle for 6 month, it's re-start virgin , useless for a wanabee monster in creation, because this is obviously what it about

    if you never touch steroid in your life ... it's will take 7 months ,, in 7 months you will know th truth, THE ANDROGEN TRUTH haha

    300$ meat a week , 200gr fat a day , for 7 months straight with 3 cycle , then you are talking result , 4 months off you will recover your fertility and your hpta and will know what truly what steroid is,, mission accomplished

    you need time off,, to party !!! , party n steroid , no , no , i did,, it's not great at all ,, it' fun but it damage you big time ,, you pay afterword
    PARTY OFF CYCLE

    swallow wintab for 3 weeks is not a cycle

    imagine if th market of ugl was like " ok , bro ,,, start now and in 7 months you get decent mass gain,, " well,,, no one will freaking buy !!!! again th illusion of th miracle pills and th super quick gain,, i be 20 pounds heavier in no time

    and no ,, it's not extreme , what extreme 3000mg weekly of enanthate for 10 years str8. masteron n tren year basis , slin at every meal , 7-8 steroid at same time in low dosage to mimics alr philosophy to th extreme,
    100mg anadrol a day is extreme,,

    unless you want to be a fitness model you dont try it ,, they go by th bandwagon ,, bandwagon of illusion thinking phil heath on creatine

    living th dream to be coleman with 5ui gh a day and thinking 1000mg will made 300 pounds bodybuilders ,,, nope ,, i did 2000mg to reach 270 and it's not like i dont know what th **** im doing ,, ask th honest monster what he did to be 270 and be not fat ,,

    look picture of ppls and members in her ,, on contest with 1000mg test , log anabolics , none are 300 pounds

    if it was that easy everyone will be 300

    if it was easy swallow wintab for 3 weeks will be gain you keep for life
    if it was easy 5ui with 1000mg with make top pro

    you do steroid or you do not , you do 2000% or nothing , dont listen the ppls who say ,, testoterone you will die, gh you will have pregnant belly and bone deformation ,, nasser did 53 contest ,, ****ing 53 ,, and still alive , nasser did 10000mg testo and im sure it' true and he' alive ,, paul borreson did front loading of 1000mg per day for dorian ,, and dorian still alive ,, you want bone deformation of acromegaly it's will cost a fortune ,, it's wont happen ,, im at 18ui a day ,, and my elbow is fine

    steroid you need 7 months and serious investment , financial , dedication and , focus , drive , admiration , obsession, passion, discipline and th secret relentless consistency , intelligence and a little craziness help ,,
    be 4% BF cut water for 36 hours , you need be little crazy ,, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW IT"S ****ING CRAZY

    brologic ,, indeed , trust th gym ,, not th book ,, trust result for you ,, no winning formula ,, only yours

    and hell yeah i am ****ing crazy,, but at least i make you save time n money,, i spent useless time in past,,, time you dont have

    and looking at lesukov and centopani,, they are not loosing there time either

    and now that i somewhat miss th bbing carreer blind by many other things like love , art , knowledge , music , sex , and party with a average genetic and go off nattie for 2 half year doing plyometric

    i wish that help you

    i only want my interweb ink to left a memory

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    Great read blp.

    I really want to try 8 weeks on 2-3 weeks off then 8 weeks on again for my next go. I noticed on my first cycle that gains somewhat slowed down around week 10.

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    Indeed a great read. I am always in the time on = time off group. I do compete but never stay on all year. This is more a hobby than a permanent career. Last cycle was 16 weeks test/dbol came off using HCG for the first time and recovery was A LOT quicker than in the past. I usually do 2 cycles a year...one bulking cycle in the offseason 2-3months post competition and 16 weeks leading into the competition.

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    JOE D; "so what killed all of the people that dropped with heart attacks in their 30's 40's and 50's?, gh you will have pregnant belly and bone deformation why do most of todays top pros have these issues?,"

    ,,,it's wont happen this is a big gamble and you wont know until its to0 late"

    die young , beta agonist family in superposition , meaning, guy on test n clen go party on cocaine ,, one is ok , clen is ok , cocaine is fine for non addict personality , but mix clen + coke or speed or meth or crystal it playing life roulette, 2 beta blocker at same time ,, really , really bad on heart, this is why bbers at rave ended hospital , you dont die of steroid use, it' always something else,,

    in my book th sleep med and painkiller game will by far wreck hormone , why that route due occur too often ? try be on tren year basis , you will have no choice doing so ,,

    th pregnant belly,,, it's insulin at every meal on carb pre contest , how they handle slin + gh + masteron + tren n get condition ,, i dont know ,,, pro guru do know', im a keto guy i cant take that direction ,,, a direction who mean 250 on stage will not happen,, aint living th dream but th reality

    th rough truth is human nature is unequal , one with live 90 years smoking , other will have lung cancer at 40 ,, there's always a gamble , predispose genetic , kidney failure , heart condition , like christ250 a member here , who' prepping once again after issue , a warrior

    not to fight against joe d , he's a great asset , he's was a carb , full carb , i mean carb like what pro do today. cutler , coleman , kay , ,,,, that i cant do ,,, and not many can either,,, 1000gr clean carb a day ,, in my drugs lifestyle use/used , i always fell th same thing , shitload of food , like 8000 calories a day,,, is actually harder on health then drugs, i know because i load on cycle pre contest keto and fell fine ,, no way you cant eat 1000gr clean carb without slin every meal , every day , year basis , high carb with predispose genetic it's a gamble,, joe d still around ,,, for myself high calories mass keto was th healthiest i felt and my heavier weight in life , now 36 yo ,, my cycle are prop , npp , primo , gh some peptides and that it,,, finish anadrol and enanthate ,, th invincible men is behind me

    be 70 pounds over of contest stage also in off season,, really harsh , be like 10-12%BF year basis is a must for health aficionados

    is bbing are result oriented or health oriented ? you tel me. those 24 weeks cycle a year with break at 1000mg will destroy someone life, i dont think so , if they are done between 25-35 years ,, juicing hardcore for a national junior show ,, it's healthy ? i dont think so ,, juicing hardcore after 36 years it's healthy ,, no ,,, that why HRT exist , that why axioma on 5mg dbol and that why i need posturology, chiro , massage , art weekly th keep war goin,,

    10 year x 24 weeks = 240 weeks = 5 years on cycle / if alcoholic can stand a life of drinking , you can inject 5 years in a lifetime

    this is th optimal way be a monster , not a pro monster , maybe national monster on gifted genetics

    19-24 natural eat mass / 25-30 years old - steroid mass cycle / 30-35 competition level bbing

    have a great shape without abuse is 15 years of work, in my book 1000mg is not abuse , 40 gram protein every 3 hours 24/7 for 15 years

    why??? th 8x3 , 2 weeks off in between , 4 months off, pct after a month for 2 months , and keep mass with ghrp6 ???

    peak performance are made off cycle , off cycle , olympic record off cycle , th steroid do is entire job 2-3 weeks after your done, it primordial goin off, at least for wannabe monster in health

    8x3 is it a hormonal rollercoaster , maybe,,, a 25-35 years guy can handle

    a cycle of 24 weeks str8 will look like this
    1-8 weeks enan
    8-12 weeks enan + tren
    12-16 weeks enan + tren + masteron
    16-20 weeks enan + tren + masteron + wintab
    20-24 weeks prop + tren + masteron + wintab + halo + clen + femera + aromasin

    that cycle will make you dry to wall a la dorian eating ice cream. on a cycle like this you see me in a mental hospital lol
    why i cant handle a cycle like this ? im old for th industry haha... i mean it's a sport of extreme , being young , with clean liver n A1 blood profile ,, help ,, with th level of pro today it's either you plan 10-15 years real young or it wont happen

    a cycle of 24 weeks will need a new compounds every 4 weeks break treshold ,

    only two thing stop a bber ; MYOSTATIN AND IMMUNE SYSTEM ,, our enemy ,, funny is once a pro on a neevr stop mode he's never sick

    no science , no proof , just living insight of my perception , i had sponsor over 15 male n female bbers competing

    a 8 x 3 follower , doesnt need that kind of heavy cycle / that kind of heavy cycle is for advance or i dont give a **** ppls

    for a middle class with health awareness who wants th most out of his genetic, without putting future health at risk was my optimal view and final conclusion


    do you see my point ?

    thk u all for nice comments

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    blp, your posts show intelligence and wisdom. Very well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_krauser View Post
    Great read blp.

    I really want to try 8 weeks on 2-3 weeks off then 8 weeks on again for my next go. I noticed on my first cycle that gains somewhat slowed down around week 10.
    Quote Originally Posted by raw View Post
    Indeed a great read. I am always in the time on = time off group. I do compete but never stay on all year. This is more a hobby than a permanent career. Last cycle was 16 weeks test/dbol came off using HCG for the first time and recovery was A LOT quicker than in the past. I usually do 2 cycles a year...one bulking cycle in the offseason 2-3months post competition and 16 weeks leading into the competition.
    Quote Originally Posted by dngerfield View Post
    blp, your posts show intelligence and wisdom. Very well said.

    thks to all of u ,, to see beyond , language barrier

    i thik it' a deep insight , overview n past analysis of the subject ,, im proud

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    BLP, why do you compete in the OPA instead of FCPAQ (now ADQ)?


 
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