Natural competing

[bigtavi8]

I like this discussion and agree with dreamweaver thoughts. Many ppl juice to compete at a level playing field.

I have to admit i dont really agree with one using gear to win a trophy at a show. In a show it is a competitive stage. If your in the tested route i feel lifelong naturals should only be allowed. But on a untested stage one does everything in there power to display the best physique. You have to make a decision if you want to go that far with it that you use gear responsibly i may add to the equation to better your physique.
I respect natural athletes 110% but i dont think the way some stigmatize guys as JUICERS and being immoral, cheaters, etc is right. Every competitor i know on or off gear is a human being and that is what makes them the way they are. If they are retarded before they use gear and have anger problems. Then they use and are the same way instantly its the gear when really a personality trait of the individual.

[Dreamweaver]

Who says those herbals are safe? Many a product have been developed believing they were safe only to realize through extensive study and research that they aren't.

The devil you know is always better than the devil you don't know.

Yah it depends on what herbs you're talking about, most of the ones I use have been used for thousands of years. Most are actually very beneficial for your health. I am healthier now at 52 than I have ever been in my life.

[Dreamweaver]

I like this discussion and agree with dreamweaver thoughts. Many ppl juice to compete at a level playing field.

I have to admit i dont really agree with one using gear to win a trophy at a show. In a show it is a competitive stage. If your in the tested route i feel lifelong naturals should only be allowed. But on a untested stage one does everything in there power to display the best physique. You have to make a decision if you want to go that far with it that you use gear responsibly i may add to the equation to better your physique.
I respect natural athletes 110% but i dont think the way some stigmatize guys as JUICERS and being immoral, cheaters, etc is right. Every competitor i know on or off gear is a human being and that is what makes them the way they are. If they are retarded before they use gear and have anger problems. Then they use and are the same way instantly its the gear when really a personality trait of the individual.

Well they're only cheaters if the come in a Tested show juiced lol