How about you, mcgirkz, anything to report?Originally Posted by mcgirkz
A little voice keeps telling me that the GHRP is was most important here. It's worked well enough for years for many people. And it's a whole lot cheaper, too.
Solo
How about you, mcgirkz, anything to report?
A little voice keeps telling me that the GHRP is was most important here. It's worked well enough for years for many people. And it's a whole lot cheaper, too.
Solo
Last edited by Solo59; 01-05-2010 at 06:32 PM.
Same here same dosing as well but GHRP-2 instead of 6. Only one day in but i could feel lower blood sugar, facial flushing and a jump in appetite, currently cutting, i'll give my thoughts in a month or so.
Please do. We need more experiential information on these peptides.
Solo
Reading through the info Datbtrue has wrote 100mcg of each three times a day is equal to 15iu's or more of synthetic gh. Slept like a rock last night.
Good to know you slept well, Chaps, but Datbtrue's claim sounds like over the top hyperbole if you ask me. I've run a lot of GH and 15 iu each day of the stuff would verging on madness.
Solo
Your thinking of 15iu's of synethetic GH, if you read into this stuff and their is a TONNNNNNNNN to learn, Dat explains how synthetic gh is only a partial sequence of what our body makes, is's also suppressive to our own gh. Synethetic also cronically raises igf-1 levels which isn't good, so 15iu's of natural "full sequence" gh you'll get, i'll have to look it up but their is added benefits. Plenty of people can attest that they are getting better results from 100mcg modfied grf 1-29 or cjc1295 stacked with either ghrp-2 or ghrp-6. You can add some synthetic to the mix to amplify each gh pulse as well. Sounds like it would be good to cycle back and forth between these peptides and the synthetic. Personally i like the fact that they are cheaper (when you think about just how much gh is being released) as well as legal, also you can find clinical grade (98-99%) for extremely reasonable prices.
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Growth Hormone Administration vs. CJC-1295/GHRP-6 + GHRH (part II of II)
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Comparing GH administration to GHRP + GHRH administration
Total GH Release:
The Alfonso Leal-Cerro study demonstrated the following GH release:
GHRH by itself dosed at 100mcg resulted in:
(AUC) 120 minutes = 1420 ± 330 ng/ml when we convert that to AUC measued in hours we get about: 25 ng/ml
GHRP-6 by itself dosed at 100mcg resulted in:
(AUC) 120 minutes = 2278 ± 290 ng/ml when we convert that to AUC measued in hours we get about: 40 ng/ml
GHRH + GHRP-6 dosed together at 100mcg each resulted in:
(AUC) 120 minutes = 7332 ± 592 ng/ml when we convert that to AUC measued in hours we get about: 130 ng/ml
The Bowers study demonstrated that a small dose of GHRP (.1mcg/kg) added to a saturation dose of GHRH (1mcg/kg) resulted in the following GH release:
(AUC) 120 minutes = 10,065 ng/ml when we convert that to AUC measued in hours we get about: 170 ng/ml
In comparison to synthetic GH administration we find that:
22iu of synthetic GH results in 495 - 585 ng/ml
Saturation doses of GHRH & GHRP results in 130 - 170 ng/ml
These results indicate that 22iu is between 3.8 and 3.4 more efficacious then a single administration of GHRH & GHRP which means that a single dose of GHRH & GHRP has the potential to produce better then the equivalent of 5iu of GH in plasma.
A dosing protocol of GHRH + GHRP at saturation dose, administered 3 times per day has the potential to exceed the equivalent of 15iu.
Note though that using this methodology GHRP-6 at a saturation dose by itself may add the equivalent of 1.4 to 1.8 iu per administration... or 4.2 to 5.4 iu per day if administered three times.
Peak Concentration:
From the graphs it is easy to see that GHRH+GHRP results in short-term peaks of 80 to 130 ng/ml.
While the synthetic GH study resulted in less pronounced peaks of 53 to 63 ng/ml of longer duration."
The above is a quote from Datbtrue's guide on professionalmuscle.com it's MASSIVE but i suggest you check it out.
Ps strength is definitely up, i've been on test e+ mast e for a while now cutting but since adding the peptides which is only 6 days now i've noticed a jump in strength and my recovery is definitely better especially with eating less food and doing 7 days of cardio alot of which is HIT. Can't wait to kill squats when my knee is 100%, i don't think it liked the 305 front squats lol.
Good information, Chaps, and you're telling an interesting personal story. Good luck in your contest. (305 front squats?Ps strength is definitely up)
I'll be looking into the GHRP-6 along with the GRF-129. Any reason you prefer GHRP-2?
Thanks, brother.
Solo
Make sure it's modified grf 1-29, and GHRP-2 is just more potent mg for mg, also it causes less hunger. And no contest, in the future yes but for now i want to come to atleast close to that condition and then continue to add more mass i've got a great nutritionist behind me so i wanna see how much mass i can pack on in the next couple yearsGood information, Chaps, and you're telling an interesting personal story. Good luck in your contest. (305 front squats?
I'll be looking into the GHRP-6 along with the GRF-129. Any reason you prefer GHRP-2?
Thanks, brother.
Solo
I said modified grf 1-29 as the unmodified verson only lasts 5-10 minutes, the modified lasts 30 minutes.
Appetite: not ravenous but it's easier to eat if that makes sense
Strength: makes big jumps here
joints: something feels "different" could be placebo though
sleep: very deep
recovery: awesomeeeeeeee
sides: a little harder to get to sleep, some nipple puffyness from prolactin, so 1mg pramipexole to counter that.
Dosing: now 100mcg ghrp-2+100mcg mod grf 1-29 4 times daily minimum 3 hours apart.
My weight is up but my waist is down, i'm definitely noticing more fatloss on
my core, my muscles are looking different, hard to describe, i'm definitely gaining some muscle as my paints are looser and my shirts are tighter
Can't wait till my knee is 100% and i can destroy legs hehe. I'm getting 5 months worth of modified grf 1-29 in about 2 weeks and i've found some clinical grade stuff so i may switch to ipamorelin or ghrp-6 in clinical grade. The reason for the switch is ghrp-2 while being very potent causes a bigger increase in cortisol and prolactin, both of which i'm sensititive to. Ipamorelin doesn't increase either whereas ghrp-6 does so to a lesser degree BUT apparently reallllllllllllly increases appetite..
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