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Last edited by tiramisu; 04-01-2010 at 07:48 PM.
hardcoreOriginally Posted by tiramisu
946 pounds
Daves article is a little confusing for sure... take point 8 and 10... how can u have your hips at optimal height and your shoulders behind the bar at the same time? short answer is you can't if you don't have the right proportions.
I'm positive if you met Dave in person he could clear it up pretty quick, it's one of the problems with articles...
Konstantinov pulls exactly like Rippetoe would recomend except he pulls round back... but his lower back isn't all that bad.
Konstantin has done interviews where he states he couldn't pull over 700 until he started pulling round back, and he's also never had a lower back problem... tho he has had injuries in other places.
Reality is, nobody pulls a big conventional with good form... end of story. People can pull big with acceptable form, but I've never seen anyone pull a true 100% single conventional and not have their form look like complete shit.
Just keep the back static, lower back tight, shoulders slightly rounded and you're good. Sooner or later some douche that can't pull 405 is gonna run up and tell you your form is terrible... it's happened to me... but that's the game.
Sumo, is a whole different animal though... your form should look pretty good on that, and just from the position you start in, it's a lot easier.
People think it's an obsession. A compulsion. As if there were an irresistible urge to act. It's never been like that. I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day I could stop. Today, however isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either.
deadlifting basically frustrates the hell out of me... stuff like this comes up and ppl get all pissy when I just roll my eyes as they try to give deadlifting advice...
People think it's an obsession. A compulsion. As if there were an irresistible urge to act. It's never been like that. I chose this life. I know what I'm doing. And on any given day I could stop. Today, however isn't that day. And tomorrow won't be either.
I have trouble with my deadlifting, what do you mean static? those points are a bit confusing but it makes sense from a physics side of it being the main point to pull the weight backwards with as little motion
For the confusion on the sholdersThe deadlift isn't an Olympic lift and shouldn't be started like one.
I did a seminar with Dr. Mel Siff at one of his Supertraining camps (one of the best investments you can ever make!) and we showed the difference between the two positions. For the Olympic lifts you want the shoulders in front of the bar; for the deadlift you want them behind the bar. Period. The amount of misinformation out there about this is incredible.
Something I personally need to work on is standing up between sets and not just deloading. i think that will help a lot not only in form but in quantity.
That might be something I should do as well. I used to do continuous reps until I realized that only the first rep was a "dead" lift. Now I deload between reps. It's worth a try I guess to see if standing up between reps will have benefits for me.
for power lifting training perhaps.... are you bodybuilding or powerlifting?
I have been standing up between reps and resetting each one for a few months now. I'm finding it helps my form a lot. When I was bouncing/touching the bar between reps my form would get worse with each rep.
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