oral HCG cycle only

[deletedandgone]

I am a complete beginner, was lifting naturally for about 1.5 years now, good gains, solid progress, but I have been reading up on juices lately, just doing my research. From what I gather, any beginner cycle does require PCT, even with mild stuff like M1T and Superdrol. For my first cycle I was considering some sort of injectable test suspension with anavar, but that will for sure require PCT.

So, before trying a cycle, I wanted to see how my body responds to PCT, which would come after the cycle. I know some drugs may have side-effects, like clomid for example (read on some eyesight problems), and some products may not produce the desired effect - works differently for everyone.

The best alternative is injectable HCG, or so I think. Only 3-4 shots are required, spaced evenly 3-4 days apart. I also noticed availability of oral HCG.

So, my question is: if I am to do an oral cycle of HCG only, what would the dosages be and does it even make sense to do this? Other products anyone would recommend? Right now I am sticking to oral stuff, because of the lifestyle - I know, injectables are best.

Feel free to bash this any way you like - I always appreciate constructive criticism.

[PdH]

Well, oral only cycles are far from ideal and few here will recommend them for very valid reasons. That said, M1T and Superdrol are not "mild". They are quite strong and rife with side-effects (liver, kidneys, etc) that you do not want. Frankly, they are toxic as hell and I don't know why anyone would use them. I'm not going to get into an oral only cycle of other compounds b/c it's a waste of time IMO. Reconsider what you're planning, you're going to hurt yourself.

[BigWheel]

You need to do way more research before you jump on a cycle.

[deletedandgone]

Yeah, anything oral is hard on liver and kidneys. My problem is: how do I inject HCG without anyone noticing? I live with some people and I don't feel like carrying syringes on me all day long. Any other ideas to getting this stuff into the blood? Spray? Sublingual? I just want to see the effect of HCG first. I know nolva and 6-oxo are oral, but without side-effects.

[talon05]

I agree bro read alot before you do anything. Oral only cycles is asking for trouble

[Iwant2Grow]

Bro listen, all orals are going to mess with your kidneys liver etc and some more then others. Honestly if your thinking about drinking HCG you need to read more for sure . If your not ready to inject i think you should wait. Test is by far the best for your body IMO and all you got to do is 500mg a week its just two shots a week


looks like this :

1wk-12wk 500mg test e

two weeks after your last shot start PCT
1-2wk 40mg Novadex
3-4wk 20mg Novadex


read this thread twice
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/fo...ead.php?t=4863

check this out
http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/fo...ght=post+cycle

[kloan]

I've never heard of someone doing an HCG only cycle. It's meant for keeping the testes working while doing a heavy cycle, or bringing them back when you've been shut down. I don't see how doing an HCG only cycle would be of any benefit to you whatsoever.

And as already mentioned, M1T and Superdrol are not mild. If you want to do an oral only cycle, try Havoc. It's relatively mild (still take liv52 and milk thistle for liver support) and can offer a boost in lifts for a little while (4-6 weeks).

Have you tried, or are you taking creatine? Even something as simple as taking creatine mono if you aren't already, is a good way to get a quick boost in strength.

[Doryphorus]

My problem is: how do I inject HCG without anyone noticing? I live with some people and I don't feel like carrying syringes on me all day long.

Well that might be tricky especially since HCG needs to be kept cold...

As for injecting though, just do it in the bathroom! I assume your roommates don't accompany you in there?

[deletedandgone]

Have you tried, or are you taking creatine? Even something as simple as taking creatine mono if you aren't already, is a good way to get a quick boost in strength.

Yes, creatine does nothing for me. I got a little bit of volume with BCAA powder, but nothing noticeable. I was loading on creatine at 20g per day for 6 days, then took it for 3 weeks at 10g per day. Nothing. It was a regular monohydrate by Higher Power.

MSM and glucosamine works for me, as well as fish oil and regular multi every month for a month. Apart from that - nothing else out there, even stuff like Tribulus and Zeus (wasted some big $$$ there).

Thanks for the responses - keep em coming. I got a lot of reading to do I guess. Right now I have some things I still wanna try in my workouts, so no juice yet. But yes, I need to read a lot more.

[deletedandgone]

looks like this :

1wk-12wk 500mg test e

two weeks after your last shot start PCT
1-2wk 40mg Novadex
3-4wk 20mg Novadex

Right, but I've never tried Novadex, so I don't even know how my body responds to the stuff. Wouldn't it make sense to just try
1-2wk 40mg Novadex
3-4wk 20mg Novadex
first, so PCT only? I know, no benefits, but I want to make sure that when the time comes for PCT, everything works like it should. Or am I completely wrong?

Thanks for the links btw, I found these too:
PCT:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...92#post6072892
Superdrol for dummies:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=519245