GABA

[Ritch]

Do you have the bottle that comes with a high dose of B6? If so, it's the B6.

I have just plain gaba with no b6 and get the sides you talk of. So I can`t agree with the b6 argument. Some say b6 will give you vivid dreams however.

[Drummer]

I already have crazy vivid dreams that I can become aware that I am dreaming within - feel things and recall so well that I could write a book in the morning - hey - that gives me an idea lol! Anyway, 5 grams seems to be alright as far as I know when looking around at what people have been using. Ritch, what do you use Gaba for and what does it do for you? I have no breathing or tingling, just a wonderful relaxation that washes over me before I sleep.

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[Drummer]

Scratch that. I just started getting the mad pricklies from my last dose of GABA. I feel kinda weird too lol and im getting tired and kinda goofy-smiley


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[Drummer]

Here is a study of GABA using 5 grams on people. It claims to raise HGH by 5x.

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/su...on-effects.htm

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[juced_porkchop]

Im ordering some soon maybe today. I will try out 0.5g first and work my way to 1g.
I onlt took it with my zma but ima buy some bulk powder of GABA, shit ima grab beta-alanine also since i havent used it yet.

On trenE, sleep ok with kava and zma but Im intersted in higher dose of GABA. also my GF seems to have stress related sleeping issues maybe I can get it to help her also.

[Krozone]

LOL, these GABA threads are allways popular.. hehe

GABA Rocks! (I buy it from [supplementscanada.com/) the NOW

supplementscanada.com/popeyes/product4101.html

GF and I use it every night. We take about 1G each about 30-60 min prior to sleeping.

kro!

[jamex]

i've had a lot of experience with gaba agonists like benzos\alcohol etc and studied the mechanism more than your average joe. I would wager that anything that is boosting gaba levels will overtime build withdrawal effects when you stop using it, so I would be wary of insomnia returning with a vengeance if you ever ran out or decided to stop.

I would agree that this should work great as a sleep aid, but I have no idea where how this would enhance GH levels by any appreciable means. Sounds like marketing spin to sell it to the bodybuilding community. Can anyone comment on the validity of this? I'd love to be wrong. I have a feeling its just the typical action of a proper nights sleep on hormone levels.

[juced_porkchop]

I would wager that anything that is boosting gaba levels will overtime build withdrawal effects

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yes maybe, but this is not booz or a drug that raise gaba it IS GABA it SELF your taking.
not a drug or benzos or what ever.

Im not too sure about your view because of this.

there are meany studies about GABA and hgh.
its not gonna be like taking high dose shots of hgh but the rise IS there.

just google it there are a BUNCH of studys.

[jamex]

no doubt there are studies for all sorts of products that don't offer very tangible real world results. Again, let me be clear, I cannot off much evidence either way, but I'm inclined to think the HGH benefits are mostly marketing spin. I would love to hear people's actual experience with it and if they attributed a change in growth rate or any other comments even if they're anecdotal.

As for GABA mechanism. If you're consuming it and its crossing the blood brain barrier to elevate gaba levels in the brain (if this isn't how it works then you can dismiss my theories), then yes I personally believe there will be some withdrawal presenting itself as insomnia if only mildly and short lasting. GABA receptors will downregulate trying to return to homeostasis in the presence of elevated GABA levels. When GABA levels return to unsupplemented levels, the lower availability of receptors will take some time to return to normal resulting in some withdrawal.

Who knows, I could be way off base here. Just food for thought.

[Memo]

gaba will not cross the BBB. Its why supplement like Phenibut are on the market.