Genetic Potential

[Ritch]

210-220 MAX Hence there are freaks so you never know

That is my thought as well. Plus I believe the guys with the best genes don`t compete in the first place.

[Praetorian]

My thoughts are around 220-230lbs. I think someone could get there but it would have to a number of things coming together.

It sounds like a nice number but far too many people have absolutely no idea what 230lbs pealed is...its not 5-6%...we are talking striated glutes here...which means in the offseason you are lookign at a fairly hard 275lbs...not likely eveb with great genetics. 230lbs somewhat smooth yes....pealed not a chance.
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[Praetorian]

at 5'11, I'd say around 215. 230 if he's the most gifted bodybuilder of all time. The only problem is that we'd likely never know the answer to the question, because if someone had that much potential, it is HIGHLY unlikely they would stay natural long enough to compete at that weight.

Very true...in fact Ronnie won his Pro card at the IFBB World Championships weighing 215lbs...and he was clean at the time....add aas and some peptides...look out.
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[C-money]

Very true...in fact Ronnie won his Pro card at the IFBB World Championships weighing 215lbs...and he was clean at the time....add aas and some peptides...look out.
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Not only that the guy learned how to eat!!

[bigdaddydrew123]

having competed clean and juiced i know how much muscle you lose dieting clean,you can be a big guy but by the time yiur stage ready youve lost alot,id be surprised to see a 215 lb ripped bber who is 100% clean

[GYMBRAT]

so is the old theory of being clean being of the juice for a few mths straight, before a comp just to squeak by the tests?...just a question Prae don't get upset with me bruh! lol

[GYMBRAT]

Not only that the guy learned how to eat!!

yes, and ****in EAT!...............

[O-Train]

It sounds like a nice number but far too many people have absolutely no idea what 230lbs pealed is...its not 5-6%...we are talking striated glutes here...which means in the offseason you are lookign at a fairly hard 275lbs...not likely eveb with great genetics. 230lbs somewhat smooth yes....pealed not a chance.
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Fair enough. I actually don't think I've seen anyone competing naturally with that kind of conditioning. One guy that was close but not peeled to the bone (and definitely not over 200lbs). I just figured someone who was really gifted and dedicated could get up there in weight. You mentioned Ronnie was clean weighing 215lbs on stage. So give him a few years and he could probably put on some more mass w/o AAS right?

[GYMBRAT]

It sounds like a nice number but far too many people have absolutely no idea what 230lbs pealed is...its not 5-6%...we are talking striated glutes here...which means in the offseason you are lookign at a fairly hard 275lbs...not likely eveb with great genetics. 230lbs somewhat smooth yes....pealed not a chance.
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makes complete sense

[nisser]

I guess we're talking about genetics potential here of the BEST. Some people just are never able to reach those sizes in my opinion. We all have different genetics, respond differently to food and even gear.