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    Thanks for posting this. I do not however see what substances this covers? Schedule I,II, II are what?

    Edit: Anabolic steroids are Schedule "IV" substances
    Last edited by bigben; 31-01-2008 at 02:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronis View Post
    Yup, steroids are definitely illegal to buy, sell, or try to buy.

    We're just lucky that most cops see it as a less offence than possessing marijuana and won't drag you through the muds like the U.S. Feds.
    I don't see where it says they are illegal to buy.


    Copying from the Act:

    (2) No person shall seek or obtain

    (a) a substance included in Schedule I, II, III or IV, or

    (b) an authorization to obtain a substance included in Schedule I, II, III or IV

    from a practitioner, unless the person discloses to the practitioner particulars relating to the acquisition by the person of every substance in those Schedules, and of every authorization to obtain such substances, from any other practitioner within the preceding thirty days.


    The section refers to acquiring from a "practitioner". Defined as: "practitioner" means a person who is registered and entitled under the laws of a province to practise in that province the profession of medicine, dentistry or veterinary medicine, and includes any other person or class of persons prescribed as a practitioner;

    So I don't see an offence for buying in and of itself, unless its from a Doctor or Vet and you fail to disclose prior authorizations within the past 30 days.
    Last edited by bigben; 31-01-2008 at 02:56 PM.

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    SCHEDULE IV

    (Sections 2 to 4, 5 to 7, 29, 55 and 60)
    1. Barbiturates, their salts and derivatives including
    (1) Allobarbital (5,5–diallylbarbituric acid)
    (2) Alphenal (5–allyl–5–phenylbarbituric acid)
    (3) Amobarbital (5–ethyl–5–(3–methylbutyl)barbituric acid)
    (4) Aprobarbital (5–allyl–5–isopropylbarbituric acid)
    (5) Barbital (5,5–diethylbarbituric acid)
    (6) Barbituric Acid (2,4,6(1H,3H,5H)–pyrimidinetrione)
    (7) Butabarbital (5–sec–butyl–5–ethylbarbituric acid)
    (8) Butalbital (5–allyl–5–isobutylbarbituric acid)
    (9) Butallylonal (5–(2–bromoallyl)–5–sec–butylbarbituric acid)
    (10) Butethal (5–butyl–5–ethylbarbituric acid)
    (11) Cyclobarbital (5–(1–cyclohexen–1–yl)–5–ethylbarbituric acid)
    (12) Cyclopal (5–allyl–5–(2–cyclopenten–1–yl)barbituric acid)
    (13) Heptabarbital (5–(1–cyclohepten–1–yl)–5–ethylbarbituric acid)
    (14) Hexethal (5–ethyl–5–hexylbarbituric acid)
    (15) Hexobarbital (5–(1–cyclohexen–1–yl)–1,5–dimethylbarbituric acid)
    (16) Mephobarbital (5–ethyl–1–methyl–5–phenylbarbituric acid)
    (17) Methabarbital (5,5–diethyl–1–methylbarbituric acid)
    (18) Methylphenobarbital (5–ethyl–1–methyl–5–phenylbarbituric acid)
    (19) Propallylonal (5–(2–bromoallyl)–5–isopropylbarbituric acid)
    (20) Pentobarbital (5–ethyl–5–(1–methylbutyl)barbituric acid)
    (21) Phenobarbital (5–ethyl–5–phenylbarbituric acid)
    (22) Probarbital (5–ethyl–5–isopropylbarbituric acid)
    (23) Phenylmethylbarbituric Acid (5–methyl–5–phenylbarbituric acid)
    (24) Secobarbital (5–allyl–5–(1–methylbutyl)barbituric acid)
    (25) Sigmodal (5–(2–bromoallyl)–5–(1–methylbutyl) barbituric acid)
    (26) Talbutal (5–allyl–5–sec–butylbarbituric acid)
    (27) Vinbarbital (5–ethyl–5–(1–methyl–1–butenyl)barbituric acid)
    (28) Vinylbital (5–(1–methylbutyl)–5–vinylbarbituric acid)
    2. Thiobarbiturates, their salts and derivatives including:
    (1) Thialbarbital (5–allyl–5–(2–cyclohexen–1–yl)–2–thiobarbituric acid)
    (2) Thiamylal (5–allyl–5–(1–methylbutyl)–2–thiobarbituric acid)
    (3) Thiobarbituric Acid (2–thiobarbituric acid)
    (4) Thiopental (5–ethyl–5–(1–methylbutyl)–2–thiobarbituric acid)
    3. Chlorphentermine (1–(p–chlorophenyl)–2–methyl–2–aminopropane) and any salt thereof
    4. Diethylpropion (2–(diethylamino)propiophenone) and any salt thereof
    5. Phendimetrazine (d–3,4–dimethyl–2–phenylmorpholine) and any salt thereof
    6. Phenmetrazine (3–methyl–2–phenylmorpholine) and any salt thereof
    7. Pipradol (a,a–diphenyl–2–piperidinemethanol) and any salt thereof
    8. Phentermine (a,a–dimethylbenzeneethanamine) and any salt thereof
    9. Butorphanol (l–N–cyclobutylmethyl–3,14–dihydroxymorphinan) and any salt thereof
    10. Nalbuphine (N–cyclobutylmethyl–4,5–epoxy–morphinan–3,6,14–tri ol) and any salt thereof
    11. Glutethimide (2–ethyl–2–phenylglutarimide)
    12. Clotiazepam (5–(o–chlorophenyl)–7–ethyl–1,3–dihydro–1–methyl–2 H–thieno[2,3–e]–1,4–diazepin–2–one) and any salt thereof
    13. Ethchlorvynol (ethyl–2–chlorovinyl ethynyl carbinol)
    14. Ethinamate (1–ethynylcyclohexanol carbamate)
    15. Mazindol (5–(p–chlorophenyl)–2,5–dihydro–3H–imidazo[2,1–a]isoindol–5–ol)
    16. Meprobamate (2–methyl–2–propyl–1,3–propanediol dicarbamate)
    17. Methyprylon (3,3–diethyl–5–methyl–2,4–piperidinedione)
    18. Benzodiazepines, their salts and derivatives, including:
    (1) Alprazolam (8–chloro–1–methyl–6–phenyl–4H–s–triazolo[4,3–a][1,4] benzodiazepine)
    (2) Bromazepam (7–bromo–1,3–dihydro–5–(2–pyridyl)–2H–1, 4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (2.1) Brotizolam (2-bromo-4-(o-chlorophenyl)-9-methyl-6H-thieno[3,2-f]-s-triazolo[4,3-a][1,4]diazepine)
    (3) Camazepam (7–chloro–1,3–dihydro–3–(N,N–dimethylcarbamoyl)–1– methyl–5–phenyl–2H–1, 4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (4) Chlordiazepoxide (7–chloro–2–(methylamino)–5–phenyl–3H–1,4–benzodia zepine–4–oxide)
    (5) Clobazam (7–chloro–1–methyl–5–phenyl–1H–1,5–benzodiazepine– 2,4(3H,5H)–dione)
    (6) Clonazepam (5–(o–chlorophenyl)–1,3–dihydro–7–nitro–2H–1,4–ben zodiazepin–2–one)
    (7) Clorazepate (7–chloro–2,3–dihydro–2,2–dihydroxy–5–phenyl–1H–1, 4–benzodiazepine–3–carboxylic acid)
    (8) Cloxazolam (10–chloro–11b–(o–chlorophenyl)–2,3, 7,11b–tetrahydrooxazolo[3,2–d][1,4]benzodiazepin 6–(5H)–one)
    (9) Delorazepam (7–chloro–5–(o–chlorophenyl)–1,3–dihydro–2H–1,4–be nzodiazepin–2–one)
    (10) Diazepam (7–chloro–1,3–dihydro–1–methyl–5–phenyl–2H–1,4–ben zodiazepin–2–one)
    (11) Estazolam (8–chloro–6–phenyl–4H–s–triazolo [4,3–a][1,4]benzodiazepine)
    (12) Ethyl Loflazepate (ethyl 7–chloro–5–(o–fluorophenyl)–2,3–dihydro–2–oxo–1H–1 ,4–benzodiazepine–3–carboxylate)
    (13) Fludiazepam (7–chloro–5–(o–fluorophenyl)–1,3–dihydro–1–methyl– 2H–1,4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (14) [Repealed, SOR/98-173, s. 2]
    (15) Flurazepam (7–chloro–1–[2–(diethylamino) ethyl]–5–(o–fluorophenyl)–1,3–dihydro–2H–1,4–benzodiazep in–2–one)
    (16) Halazepam (7–chloro–1,3–dihydro–5–phenyl–1–(2,2,2–trifluoroe thyl)–2H–1,4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (17) Haloxazolam (10–bromo–11b–(o–fluorophenyl)–2,3,7,11b–tetrahydr ooxazolo[3,2–d][1,4]benzodiazepin–6(5H)–one)
    (18) Ketazolam (11–chloro–8,12b–dihydro–2,8–dimethyl–12b–phenyl–4 H–[1,3]–oxazino–[3,2–d][1,4] benzodiazepine–4,7(6H)–dione)
    (19) Loprazolam (6–(o–chlorophenyl)–2,4–dihydro–2–[(4–methyl–1–piperazinyl)methylene]–8–nitro–1H–imidazo[1,2–a][1,4]benzodiazepin–1–one)
    (20) Lorazepam (7–chloro–5–(o–chlorophenyl)–1,3–dihydro–3–hydroxy –2H–1,4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (21) Lormetazepam (7–chloro–5–(o–chlorophenyl)–1,3–dihydro–3–hydroxy –1–methyl–2H–1,4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (22) Medazepam (7–chloro–2,3–dihydro–1–methyl–5–phenyl–1H–1,4–ben zodiazepine)
    (22.1) Midazolam (8-chloro-6-(o-fluorophenyl)-1-methyl-4H-imidazo[1,5-a][1,4]benzodiazepine)
    (23) Nimetazepam (1,3–dihydro–1–methyl–7–nitro–5–phenyl–2H–1,4–benz odiazepin–2–one)
    (24) Nitrazepam (1,3–dihydro–7–nitro–5–phenyl–2H–1,4–benzodiazepin –2–one)
    (25) Nordazepam (7–chloro–1,3–dihydro–5–phenyl–2H–1,4–benzodiazepi n–2–one)
    (26) Oxazepam (7–chloro–1,3–dihydro–3–hydroxy–5–phenyl–2H–1,4–be nzodiazepin–2–one)
    (27) Oxazolam (10–chloro–2,3,7,11b–tetrahydro–2–methyl–11b–pheny loxazolo[3,2–d] [1,4]benzodiazepin–6(5H)–one)
    (28) Pinazepam (7–chloro–1,3–dihydro–5–phenyl–1–(2–propynyl)–2H–1 ,4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (29) Prazepam (7–chloro–1–(cyclopropylmethyl)–1, 3–dihydro–5–phenyl–2H–1,4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (29.1) Quazepam (7-chloro-5-(o-fluorophenyl)-1,3-dihydro-1-(2,2,2-trifluoroethyl)-2H-1,4-benzodiazepine-2-thione)
    (30) Temazepam (7–chloro–1,3–dihydro–3–hydroxy–1–methyl–5–phenyl– 2H–1,4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (31) Tetrazepam (7–chloro–5–(cyclohexen–1–yl)–1,3–dihydro–1–methyl –2H–1,4–benzodiazepin–2–one)
    (32) Triazolam (8–chloro–6–(o–chlorophenyl)–1–methyl–4H–s–triazol o[4,3–a][1,4]benzodiazepine)
    but not including:
    (32.1) Clozapine (8-chloro-11-(4-methyl-1-piperazinyl)-5H-dibenzo[b,e][1,4]diazepine) and any salt thereof
    (33) Flunitrazepam (5-(o-fluorophenyl)-1,3-dihydro-1-methyl-7-nitro-2H-1,4-benzodiazepin-2-one) and any salts or derivatives thereof
    (34) Olanzapine (2-methyl-4-(4-methyl-1-piperazinyl)-10H-thieno[2,3-b][1,5]benzodiazepine) and its salts
    19. Catha edulis Forsk., its preparations, derivatives, alkaloids and salts, including:
    (1) Cathine (d–threo–2–amino–1–hydroxy–1–phenylpropane)
    20. Fencamfamin (d,l–N–ethyl–3–phenylbicyclo[2,2,1] heptan–2–amine) and any salt thereof
    21. Fenproporex (d,l–3–[(a–methylphenethyl)amino]propionitrile) and any salt thereof
    22. Mefenorex (d,l–N–(3–chloropropyl)–a–methylbenzeneethanamine ) and any salt thereof

    23. Anabolic steroids and their derivatives including:
    (1) Androisoxazole (17ß–hydroxy–17a–methylandrostano [3,2–c]isoxazole)
    (2) Androstanolone (17ß–hydroxy–5a–androstan–3–one)
    (3) Androstenediol (androst–5–ene–3ß,17ß–diol)
    (4) Bolandiol (estr–4–ene–3ß,17ß–diol)
    (5) Bolasterone (17ß–hydroxy–7a,17–dimethylandrost–4–en–3–one )
    (6) Bolazine (17ß–hydroxy–2a–methyl–5a–androstan–3–one azine)
    (7) Boldenone (17ß–hydroxyandrosta–1,4–dien–3–one)
    (8) Bolenol (19–nor–17a–pregn–5–en–17–ol)
    (9) Calusterone (17ß–hydroxy–7ß,17–dimethylandrost–4–en– 3–one)
    (10) Clostebol (4–chloro–17ß–hydroxyandrost–4–en–3–one)
    (11) Drostanolone (17ß–hydroxy–2a–methyl–5a–androstan–3–one)
    (12) Enestebol (4, 17ß–dihydroxy–17–methylandrosta–1,4–dien–3–on e)
    (13) Epitiostanol (2a, 3a–epithio–5a–androstan–17ß–ol)
    (14) Ethylestrenol (19–nor–17a–pregn–4–en–17–ol)
    (15) 4–Hydroxy–19–nor testosterone
    (16) Fluoxymesterone (9–fluoro–11ß,17ß–dihydroxy–17–methyland rost–4–en–3–one)
    (17) Formebolone (11a, 17ß–dihydroxy–17–methyl–3–oxoandrosta–1,4 di–en–2–carboxaldehyde)
    (18) Furazabol (17–methyl–5a–androstano[2,3–c] furazan–17ß–ol)
    (19) Mebolazine (17ß–hydroxy–2a,17–dimethyl–5a–androstan–3–on e azine)
    (20) Mesabolone (17ß–[(1–methoxycyclohexyl)oxy]–5a–androst–1–en–3–one)
    (21) Mesterolone (17ß–hydroxy–1a–methyl–5a–androstan–3–one)
    (22) Metandienone (17ß–hydroxy–17–methylandrosta–1,4–dien–3–one )
    (23) Metenolone (17ß–hydroxy–1–methyl–5a–androst–1–en–3–one)
    (24) Methandriol (17a–methylandrost–5–ene–3ß,17ß–diol)
    (25) Methyltestosterone (17ß–hydroxy–17–methylandrost–4–en–3–one)
    (26) Metribolone (17ß–hydroxy–17–methylestra–4, 9,11–trien–3–one)
    (27) Mibolerone (17ß–hydroxy–7a,17–dimethylestr–4–en–3–one)
    (28) Nandrolone (17ß–hydroxyestr–4–en–3–one)
    (29) Norboletone (13–ethyl–17ß–hydroxy–18, 19–dinorpregn–4–en–3–one)
    (30) Norclostebol (4–chloro–17ß–hydroxyestr–4–en–3–one)
    (31) Norethandrolone (17a–ethyl–17ß–hydroxyestr–4–en–3–one)
    (32) Oxabolone (4,17ß–dihydroxyestr–4–en–3–one)
    (33) Oxandrolone (17ß–hydroxy–17–methyl–2–oxa–5a–androstan–3–o ne)
    (34) Oxymesterone (4,17ß–dihydroxy–17–methylandrost–4–en–3–one)
    (35) Oxymetholone (17ß–hydroxy–2–(hydroxymethylene)–17–methyl–5 a–androstan–3–one)
    (36) Prasterone (3ß–hydroxyandrost–5–en–17–one)
    (37) Quinbolone (17ß–(1–cyclopenten–1–yloxy) androsta–1,4–dien–3–one)
    (38) Stanozolol (17ß–hydroxy–17–methyl–5a–androstano [3,2–c]pyrazole)
    (39) Stenbolone (17ß–hydroxy–2–methyl–5a–androst–1–en–3–one)
    (40) Testosterone (17ß–hydroxyandrost–4–en–3–one)
    (41) Tibolone ((7a,17a)-17–hydroxy–7–methyl–19–norpregn–5(10) en–20–yn–3–one)
    (42) Tiomesterone (1a,7a–bis(acetylthio)–17ß–hydroxy–17–methyla ndrost–4–en–3–one)
    (43) Trenbolone (17ß–hydroxyestra–4,9,11–trien–3–one)


    24. Zeranol (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12–decahydro–7,14,16–trihydro xy–3–methyl–1H–2–benzoxacyclotetradecin–1–one)
    25. Zolpidem (N,N,6-trimethyl-2-(4-methylphenyl)imidazo[1,2-a]pyridine-3-acetamide) and any salt thereof
    25.1 Pemoline (2-amino-5-phenyl-oxazolin-4-one) and any salt thereof
    26. Pyrovalerone (4'-methyl-2-(1-pyrrolidinyl)valerophenone) and any salt thereof
    1996, c. 19, Sch. IV; SOR/97-230, ss. 11 to 15; SOR/98-173, s. 2; SOR/99-371, s. 3; SOR/99-421, s. 2(E); SOR/2000-220, s. 2; SOR/2003-32, s. 6; SOR/2003-37.

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    If anyone can find the info on ancillaries like nolva, clomid etc and hgh, it would make this thread complete. I'm looking but I can't find anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuSuLPhReAk View Post
    If anyone can find the info on ancillaries like nolva, clomid etc and hgh, it would make this thread complete. I'm looking but I can't find anything.
    Tamoxifen clomifene would be listed as a obtaining a prescription medication without valid prescription; I'll dig through my criminal code and see what I can find.

    edit: wtf. Methandrostenolone (dbol) isn't listed as one of the 43 listed anabolics.
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    I wonder how many slap on the wrist you get for selling clomid and nolvadex. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Kronis View Post
    Tamoxifen clomifene would be listed as a obtaining a prescription medication without valid prescription; I'll dig through my criminal code and see what I can find.
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    I can't seem to find any information of hgh. It should be under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, if any, but its not on any schedule I can find to the act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strateg0s View Post
    Steroid offenses for mere possession are going to be summary, meaning they'll get quickly resolved in court and the punishment will be more or less trivial. For manufacture or distributing/trafficking, the offenses are hybrid, meaning it is the prosecutor's discretion to push for it to be treated as a summary offense or an indictable one. The defendant's prior criminal background (or lack thereof) would have some influence on that decision, depending on what he was found to be involved in.

    Speaking of all of this, has anyone heard word one about what happened in court to Illusion or Teragon? I'd presume Illusion has been convicted and sentenced already, and that Teragon's trial is ongoing.
    I bet it go's over a year or almost two years,there are many people that went down Illusion and HA, the RCMP and crown would try to say there all working together.

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    It would be sure valuable to know what amounts of AAS possessed have been cleared of not being enough to be convicted of trafficing. Need someone with access to Quicklaw. Any law students out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigben View Post
    It would be sure valuable to know what amounts of AAS possessed have been cleared of not being enough to be convicted of trafficing. Need someone with access to Quicklaw. Any law students out there?
    I don't think there's a set number. I know the states count each pill or mL as 1 dose, so a bottle of anabol would be 1000 doses of anabolic steroids, but so would 1000 amps of primo.

    Obviously there's a huge price, quantity, and intent difference between the two.

    I'm almost positive that the Crown would have to prove intent to distribute, so if you have more than a couple cycles worth on hand you should be fine.

    If you get caught receiving a pack then you're still committing an offence, no matter how much it is.


 
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